Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-04 11:20 | Report Abuse

Tengok, sudah cakap selalu one day show only. Sekarang sudah merah 0.585

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-04 12:10 | Report Abuse

Hahaha, seems many ppl trap in here.

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-04 12:23 | Report Abuse

@beautiful life, queue more.at 0.575 to average down.

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-04 14:42 | Report Abuse

haiz. one day show again. waiting to escape this shitty counter

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-04 14:44 | Report Abuse

@Clj Jun even average down the cost, we may take an age to gain tiny profit. not worth to put any hope in this counter anymore

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-04 15:53 | Report Abuse

At least this counter is better than some other counters. I just cut loss from bahvest, that s*ck counter keep drooping like never end.

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-04 18:19 | Report Abuse

@Clj Jun , already calculate queue more at 0.575 but cannot. Base on record sell 0.59 need to buy many lots. 0.625 + 0.575 = 1.20 / 2 = 0.60 Recently highest price at 0.595 only so need to buy a lot, so is no use for me.

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-04 18:22 | Report Abuse

@ chernhung , yalah... Ini counter selalu one day show only , let people happy a while then dissappointed again... Dissappointed counter... :(

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-04 18:50 | Report Abuse

ok, this is the way how to calculate average down,

old price + {[new volume/(old volume + new volume)]*(new price - old price)}

let say, i bought at 0.625 for 10000 units. later i drop to 0.575, i buy again 20000 units.

=0.625 +{[(20000/(10000+20000)]*(0.575-0.625)}
=0.625 + [0.6667*(-0.05)]
=0.625 + (-0.0333)
=0.625 - 0.0333
=0.5917
=0.592 (round it)

you can use the calculator at here also --> http://www.bullsandthebears.com/vipmember/Average-Down-Calculator.html

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-04 23:42 | Report Abuse

Clj Jun, i got 30 lots bought at 0.625 Capital belum lagi balik at others counter...

Posted by zhileong > 2014-07-05 03:12 | Report Abuse

Average down can be more easy like below:

(0.625x10000 + 0.575x20000) / 30000

= (6250+11500) / 30000

= 0.591667

= 0.592

Posted by tinyinvestor > 2014-07-05 07:14 | Report Abuse

Is this counter still give any hope...?....look like it is in deep sleep...

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-05 10:30 | Report Abuse

Lol, beautiful life, i bought more than 670 lots all averaged down to 0.589 still not yet worry.

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-05 12:45 | Report Abuse

@ zhenguyee , you still hold this counter? You sudah pergi mana? Lama tak ada sini geh?

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-05 12:47 | Report Abuse

@ Clj Jun , want to get back capital and buy others counter mah... You from Sabah? Seems like you are KRETAM supporter...

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-07 10:37 | Report Abuse

I come from Sabah but not kretam supporter. My big support is SONA 5241.

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-07 10:40 | Report Abuse

SONA today green colour oh...

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-07 10:41 | Report Abuse

the end of the story...

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-07 10:42 | Report Abuse

Ini KRETAM lagi warna merah 0.58

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-07 10:38 | Report Abuse

chernhung , you also dissappointed with this counter?

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-07 11:33 | Report Abuse

beautiful_life, i swear i will never touch this counter after i sell..

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-07 11:45 | Report Abuse

chernhung , me too... So dissappointed with this counter... :(

Posted by tinyinvestor > 2014-07-07 16:47 | Report Abuse

me too...

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-07 17:39 | Report Abuse

http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/company-announcements/1677921

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-07 17:41 | Report Abuse

Kretam proposed bulking joint venture in palm oil business. anyone have any further information about this news?

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-07 17:53 | Report Abuse

Seems like this counter let many peoples dissappointed... Mr Lim , you see what you doing with your counter...

Posted by TKSB > 2014-07-08 09:06 | Report Abuse

false gap up again, better sell now and buy lower later to get some money back

Posted by zhenguyee > 2014-07-08 10:07 | Report Abuse

okay. i sell at losses today finally...

Posted by TKSB > 2014-07-08 10:10 | Report Abuse

wait to buy back at 0.575 to 0.55

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-08 10:35 | Report Abuse

buy back? u must be kidding me....

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-08 10:50 | Report Abuse

zhenguyee , you sell this counter today?

Posted by zhenguyee > 2014-07-08 11:24 | Report Abuse

beautiful_life yea, make a loss for about 6%.. i give up... look for something better

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-08 11:46 | Report Abuse

zhenguyee , sad to hear you loss & hope you earn back at others counter. If i sell loss 7.16%

Posted by zhenguyee > 2014-07-08 11:48 | Report Abuse

beautiful_life, i think in terms on time value, since u just bought like a month ago, worth waiting.. i've been holding for more than half a year, so might as well cut loss and find other better counter?? :)

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-08 11:59 | Report Abuse

i have been holding for more than 6 months also... will sell this counter after 2 months. hopefully it will wake up after world cup.

Posted by beautiful_life > 2014-07-08 12:21 | Report Abuse

zhenguyee & chernhung , i bought this counter on April. Really hope will wake up after next week. Tapi ini counter selalu one day show saja , 我唔会抱甘大希望。

Posted by dboulevard > 2014-07-08 13:57 | Report Abuse

You short term traders are always buying high when there's news, and then you want to sell it off quickly. This is how you lose money in the stock market. The experienced investor buy on the fundamentals of the company, and hold long term. You guys in out in out everyday, that's why you are frustrated and complain.

Posted by zhenguyee > 2014-07-08 14:13 | Report Abuse

when u buy, u need to know why u buy, and when you sell, you need to know the reason too...

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-08 14:20 | Report Abuse

rookie will always learn from the mistake.. haha..

Posted by TKSB > 2014-07-08 14:36 | Report Abuse

If the company is good, they do not need to come out in all the newspapers with "Kretam gets it right" and saying that reward shareholders la, this and that but on the other hand dispose their stakes in a big way for so many months.

Posted by TKSB > 2014-07-08 14:38 | Report Abuse

I think Kretam only gets it right for Lim brothers....as you can see here, not many have profited on this counter for months

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-08 19:59 | Report Abuse

guys, steady lah. compare this counter with my sona (5241), this counter has much safer than sona. just hold it few more months or hold until this year end. Don't worry. I am now more worried to hold my sona. Sona is a very active counter, everyday is dumping by contras and collect by big sharks. My loss in sona is much higher than kretam. Sona is a SPAC company without income, just like a blank cheque company, no income, no assets, no debts. Currently they are deciding to sign a S&P contract with Thailand Salamander petroleum company. Last time sona was goreng until 0.620, today the price was dropped down to 0.480. The lowest price at today is 0.470. That's why I was so worried about this counter, it was dropping everyday like never end since last month. Compare this counter to Sona, of course Kretam is much safer because Kretam has a good fundamental. I live in Sabah here, besides from IOI and IJM Plantation, I can see how large of the Kretam's palm oil mills along the road from Sandakan to Kudat.

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-08 20:07 | Report Abuse

please be patience, hold 2 more months. September Kretam maybe got news.

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-09 19:44 | Report Abuse

Please read and learn this, http://www.net767.com/gupiao/genzhuang/201001/17321.html

Posted by eu7985 > 2014-07-09 22:08 | Report Abuse

That mean now oldy is bottom? Kretam stuck 0.58~0.60 a bit long time d.....

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-10 13:32 | Report Abuse

If not mistaken, kretam bosses acquired the stock at 0.55 above.. i believe now already is the bottom line. what are we waiting now is the bosses start frying this counter...

Posted by eu7985 > 2014-07-10 13:52 | Report Abuse

They bought 0.58, I check frm the bursa announcement

Posted by chernhung > 2014-07-10 13:55 | Report Abuse

0.58 is recent price. 4 months ago should be lower.

Posted by TKSB > 2014-07-10 14:46 | Report Abuse

This story can apply on all those counters that are not moving

Posted by Clj Jun > 2014-07-10 19:56 | Report Abuse

I heard from somewhere says that kretam got news at September. So just wait.