Posted by leviathan > 2013-06-08 00:44 | Report Abuse

everybody deserves second chances, but not for the same mistakes

Posted by arv18 > 2013-06-08 01:25 | Report Abuse

i must emphasize that a padi farmer, grass cutter, garbage collector can make money in the market. that is the beauty of the stock market. it doesn't care about who you are, your colour, race, religion, qualifications. got money...fine...just identify a company making decent net profit, profit margin, dividend paying, and most importantly, price graph, where the line is going from LOWER LEFT corner to UPPER RIGHT corner.

go here for some knowledge. if you can't understand. ask someone.

http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/900255072.jsp

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-08 08:17 | Report Abuse

dun dissapointed for those who are holding knm.share.i am holding 320 lot knm share.i no yet nervous.

Posted by smallturtle > 2013-06-08 12:57 | Report Abuse

YS, based on the knm closed price, 320 lots is around RM153k. Although you have not yet worried, I already started worrying for you...

You guys are very rich.. everyone also said holding few hundred lots.. Kuat kuat.

Posted by smallturtle > 2013-06-08 12:58 | Report Abuse

Or maybe.. typo error, 32 lots? haha

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-08 13:39 | Report Abuse

I would be so worried...if retrace back to 41...every cent down is 3200 gone...if break 41.....sayonara

Posted by tonylim > 2013-06-08 13:57 | Report Abuse

Guys, pls let YS go his way. He deserve some encouragement.
Dont add salt to injury.

This thread has gone up to 117 pages.

Posted by tonylim > 2013-06-08 13:58 | Report Abuse

Bursa is always there from monday to friday

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-08 14:18 | Report Abuse

sell and buy back is a good technique....Hindenburg omen coming

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-08 14:24 | Report Abuse

smallturtle dun so worry about me.the bank lend money to knm . they much worry about than me. because they lend is over hundred millions.

Posted by einvest88 > 2013-06-08 14:28 | Report Abuse

Read more: KNM sees 20m shares traded in off market deal http://www.btimes.com.my/Current_News/BTIMES/articles/kri18/Article/#ixzz2Vd4AzUaB

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-06-08 14:31 | Report Abuse

alex chan, Hindenburg omen(meaning stock mkt super crash) will be erase as US unemployment rise to 7.6% meaning the Feds won't pull out stimulus anytime soon (DJIA rose more than 200 pts)

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-08 14:51 | Report Abuse

hopefully us dollas reach to 3.800 then knm can earning more money

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-08 16:23 | Report Abuse

i wun sad if price drop so much right now. everyone can write their comment here.

Posted by Noraini Ismail > 2013-06-08 16:28 | Report Abuse

Yungshen1 - you're holding 320 lot at what price? If old price below 0.50.. Wow profit gila .. Steady man you're so focus on KNM. Good luck to you.

During rally up early this month I took profit & run. .sikit aje profit pun dah excited. My risk tolerance is low. Now if break resistance 0.50 probably try my luck again.

Posted by azie99 > 2013-06-08 18:50 | Report Abuse

The reason i still stuck with this counter because my average price is still high. Even though the losses from knm already covered by profit from other counters but am still waiting for this counter to go up. I believe YS1 is in the same situation as I am. I will hold this knm share until i can make profit, like what i did for some other counters. Quote from warrant buffet , if you aren't willing to own a stock for ten years, don't even think of owning it for 10 minutes.

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-08 19:38 | Report Abuse

hidenburg omen is when too many counters hit new highs...thus market will correct

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-08 19:57 | Report Abuse

u are right azie99

Posted by kcchongnz > 2013-06-09 11:02 | Report Abuse

azie99, does KNM meets what Warren Buffet said about think long-term when investing in a company? Read the whole thing carefully.

Think long-term.
'Your goal as an investor should simply be to purchase, at a rational price, a part interest in an easily-understandable business whose earnings are virtually certain to be materially higher five, 10 and 20 years from now. Over time, you will find only a few companies that meet these standards - so when you see one that qualifies, you should buy a meaningful amount of stock. You must also resist the temptation to stray from your guidelines: If you aren't willing to own a stock for 10 years, don't even think about owning it for 10 minutes. Put together a portfolio of companies whose aggregate earnings march upward over the years, and so also will the portfolio's market value.'
Source: Chairman's Letter, 1996

No, I won't give encouragement to anybody buying KNM. It does no good to anybody in my personal opinion. And I am not trying to pour cold water or rubbing salt into people's injury. I want to have conscious to forewarn people so that they won't fall into the predicament of some of the shareholders of KNM here. Human being tends to have this cognitive bias of over-confidence, if not told, would not be good for them. I know a lot of people don't like what I say.

Of course I could be wrong too. I am also a normal human being.

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-09 13:20 | Report Abuse

well.....I think most people are trading....not advisable to hold stocks....we are in for more crisis and turmoil....we are after all a 3rd world country and hugely lacking in transparency

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-09 13:46 | Report Abuse

kcchongnz what u saying is right.u advice poeple avoid buy bad fundamental and high debt like knm.no body wun blame u.dun worry.

Posted by malcomW > 2013-06-09 15:59 | Report Abuse

20/02/2013 0.475 0.60 +0.125 (26.32%) HOLD MAYBANK
08/05/2013 0.47 0.23 -0.24 (51.06%) SELL MAYBANK

29/05/2013 0.60 0.63 +0.03 (5.00%) HOLD RHB
05/06/2013 0.525 0.42 -0.105 (20.00%) SELL RHB

It is a surprise to me that experts from banks can make turn around calls in such a short period of time.

Posted by alexisvics > 2013-06-09 16:23 | Report Abuse

Those are not experts but hakka people say "sen kar lin". Just make conclusion by looking at one quarter result but not long term.

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-09 16:54 | Report Abuse

1. Tasec Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 189,000,000 12.89
- TA Capital Sdn Bhd for Inter Merger Sdn Bhd

2. Lembaga Tabung Haji 67,731,750 4.62
3. Amsec Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 65,435,249 4.46
- Pledged Securities Account for Inter Merger Sdn Bhd
4. Inter Merger Sdn Bhd 48,101,047 3.28
5. Maybank Securities Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 24,941,090 1.70
- Pledged Securities Account for Tegas Klasik Sdn Bhd (Margin)
6. Cartaban Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 21,863,400 1.49
- SSBT Fund D26J for Emerging Markets Global Small
Capitalization Fund (Temmuf)
7. Maybank Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 18,639,279 1.27
- Pledged Securities Account for Lee Swee Eng
8. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 18,638,125 1.27
- CBNY for Dimensional Emerging Markets Value Fund
9. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 17,325,000 1.18
- Exempt AN for Merrill Lynch Pierce Fenner & Smith Incorporated
(Foreign)
10. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 16,250,000 1.11
- Exempt AN for Citibank NA, Singapore (Julius Baer) 143
K N M G R O U P B E R H A D I A n n u a l R e p o r t 2 0 1 2
Analysis of Shareholdings and Warrantholdings
as at 20 May 2013 (cont’d)
THIRTY LARGEST SHAREHOLDERS (CONT’D)
No. Name of Shareholders No. of Shares Held % #
11. Cartaban Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 14,857,700 1.01
- Government of Singapore Investment Corporation Pte Ltd
for Government of Singapore (C)
12. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 10,147,000 0.69
- Exempt AN for JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association
(Norges BK Lend)
13. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 8,977,100 0.61
- Exempt AN for J.P. Morgan Bank Luxembourg S.A.
14. Yap Kim Long 7,700,000 0.53
15. Ooi Cheow Har 7,519,500 0.51
16. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 7,390,250 0.50
- CBNY for DFA Emerging Markets Small Cap Series
17 Maybank Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 6,860,793 0.47
- Pledged Securities Account for Inter Merger Sdn Bhd
18. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 6,750,000 0.46
- BNY Brussels for Allchurches Investment Management
Services Ltd
19. Gan Siew Liat 6,296,250 0.43
20. Cartaban Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 6,226,755 0.42
- SSBT Fund J734 for SPDR S and P Emerging Market’s
Small Cap ETF
21. Citigroup Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 6,216,068 0.42
- CBNY for Emerging Market Core Equity Portfolio DFA
Investment Dimensions Group Inc
22. Cartaban Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 5,171,900 0.35
- Government of Singapore Investment Corporation Pte Ltd
for Monetary Authority of Singapore (H)
23. Cartaban Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 5,003,150 0.34
- SSBT Fund FA20 for Eaton Vance Structured Emerging
Markets Fund
24. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 4,779,075 0.33
- Exempt AN for JPMorgan Chase Bank, National Association (U.S.A.)
25. Chew Fook Sin 4,585,950 0.31
26. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 4,518,525 0.31
- Exempt AN for the Bank of New York Mellon (Mellon Acct)
27. HSBC Nominees (Asing) Sdn Bhd 4,503,025 0.31
- BNY Brussels for City of New York Group Trust
28. Wang, Chun-Cheng 4,500,000 0.31
29. Koay Siew Choon 3,800,000 0.26
30. Public Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 3,670,000 0.25
- Pledged Securities Account for Tee Kim Hew (E-KLG/BTG)
TOTAL 617,397,981 42.09

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-09 16:54 | Report Abuse

u could see the maybank also got hold knm share.

Posted by sephiroth > 2013-06-09 17:16 | Report Abuse

yes coz maybank have loan hundreds of millions to knm, they have no choice but to accept the shares as part payment

Posted by alexisvics > 2013-06-09 17:19 | Report Abuse

These experts want you to sell very-very cheap to them,so when you sell 42sen,40sen or even below 40sen, they are happily collecting or bottom fishing. very cunning.

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-06-09 17:39 | Report Abuse

No hope KNM. I bought at RM4.00 last time, until now also still at 50 cents. My Sad history with Kalau Nak Mati (KNM) beli this counter.

Posted by Buy & Sell Sell & Buy > 2013-06-09 17:51 | Report Abuse

836 posts Posted by yungshen1 > Jun 9, 2013 04:54 PM | Report Abuse 1. Tasec Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 189,000,000 12.89 - TA Capital Sdn Bhd for Inter Merger Sdn Bhd 

29. Koay Siew Choon 3,800,000 0.26 30. Public Nominees (Tempatan) Sdn Bhd 3,670,000 0.25 - Pledged Securities Account for Tee Kim Hew (E-KLG/BTG) TOTAL 617,397,981 42.09

Wow. look like Koay siew choon bought at RM 0.26 & Tee Kim Hew bought at RM0.25 are the smartest.

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-09 18:57 | Report Abuse

buy and sell u are see wron 0.25 is % of holding share

Posted by azie99 > 2013-06-09 21:27 | Report Abuse

I'm not encouraging people to buy knm, what I'm saying is that the reason i'm still holding this share because my avg price is high. Well, people are entitled to voice out their opinion and make their own decision and take their own risk.

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-09 21:28 | Report Abuse

maybank nominees......

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-09 21:28 | Report Abuse

there was also a merger of 4 to 1

Posted by tangen1985 > 2013-06-10 08:18 | Report Abuse

Couldn't agree more with azie99. Short term buying+selling when the price is low is a good strategy but to hold & hoping it could go up to probably RM 1.00 is so unsound. Better buy Pantech. Financial look sound.

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-10 20:31 | Report Abuse

负债未必是坏事

一家公司有负债未必是坏事，假如公 司的工程很多，又或有多项发展或投 资计划进行中，例如建新厂、买地皮 等，负债高一点是可以接受的。

Posted by alexisvics > 2013-06-10 21:25 | Report Abuse

I agree with you ys1,thats why I never give up hope on KNM.

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-10 22:03 | Report Abuse

alexisvics what is yr average price knm

Posted by KAHFIEHLAI > 2013-06-10 22:08 | Report Abuse

Malcom...that is why OLD investors say...be yourself. Experts only follow the General trend of views/calls, otherwise he/she would be SO called EXPERT if having Different opinion....

Posted by smallturtle > 2013-06-11 15:17 | Report Abuse

Downtrend and broken 48 cents.. Next challenge will be 45 cents.. Actually, I believe that there should a short rebounce in next few days

Posted by Edmundleekoklam > 2013-06-11 21:06 | Report Abuse

After all the negative news, I think 45 was still quite expensive for a buy. 40 was more reasonable. A rebound could be possible but not sustainable.

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-11 22:41 | Report Abuse

cindycat declinced play..20m shares returned

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-11 22:50 | Report Abuse

break macd line...officially downtrend

Posted by Frank Soweto > 2013-06-12 03:18 | Report Abuse

ys1 I think alexisvis purchased price was .12 and .125 butt it was for knm wa. I also support you as a fren even though I dun understand the chino characters you posted. Gambateh :)

Posted by yungshen1 > 2013-06-12 08:19 | Report Abuse

fransoweto i translate in english.i say one company had high debt is not bad thing.if company got many tander book in hand.for example built factory,buy land.if high debt right now we can accept it.

Posted by KC Loh > 2013-06-12 16:00 | Report Abuse

Purchase price coming back soon! Boy, how I love last puff buffettology! LoL

Posted by rocket > 2013-06-12 16:35 | Report Abuse

must hv strong heart to enter this counter..

Posted by hornydog > 2013-06-12 16:59 | Report Abuse

Like I said, really (k)an(n)ia(m)a counter hahaha...

Posted by alexccc > 2013-06-12 17:48 | Report Abuse

yeah buy really low and sell high

Posted by Alex Chan > 2013-06-12 19:27 | Report Abuse

strange....warrant not down

Posted by malcomW > 2013-06-15 00:04 | Report Abuse

Japan rebound was weak, the global market's volatility has increased significantly, pretty much the tell-tale sign of the super super super super super global stock market crash. This bullet can't be dodge or defuse. It will happen in a matter of weeks/months.