Posted by stars > 2015-10-13 21:35 | Report Abuse

put it this way, im sure you have seen it, market rally, the px relatively stable, market crash this h5 also px can go down. Conclusion, this doesnt follow market. If u want play this, i suggest u understand how the sharks work n hopefully you are on the same boat heading the same direction as them, then ull make loads of money. if u want follow market go find a warrant that is more correlated with market movement. instead of waiting for magic show to happen with this stock, if u believe in ur market reading skills, use your capital for those warrants or if u have higher risk appetite, open a futures account and trade directly, ull be making alot of money by now instead of waiting here for px to go 0.15 la, 0.20 la. anyways your money, your choice. Good luck, hopefully no on here gets burnt too bad.

Posted by kingcobra > 2015-10-15 08:50 | Report Abuse

talk...I also can talk n don't try to be an EXPERT!!!!!!!!

Posted by tlbeng > 2015-10-15 10:47 | Report Abuse

check the premium before you buy any put warrant
and also, put warrant follows FKLI, not KLCI
you're gambling put/call warrant if you don't know how it works and didn't set any SL/TP
might as well go to genting casino

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-15 14:44 | Report Abuse

Huse selling force, KLCI strong after China stimulus. Looks like green dragon keep striking on index.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-15 16:43 | Report Abuse

did anyone with 500k just withdraw?

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-15 19:08 | Report Abuse

Haha. Cash flow, see i tot u h5 very useless one. No up much but drop much.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 07:17 | Report Abuse

Still the cheapest hedging counter and it's matter of time when index burst downward

Posted by nekosan > 2015-10-16 09:22 | Report Abuse

hahaha .... still continue dream of 1500 ?

Posted by nekosan > 2015-10-16 09:23 | Report Abuse

if u all wanna bring down klse, easy ... just find out any misconduct by the pm and 1mdb ... if you can lar ... else just see klci go 1800... and btw ... do consider the expiration of H5 ... although is 2016 but who knows klse only crash in the month of the expiration of H5 ?

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 09:31 | Report Abuse

do you guys know that the stock market has not crashed yet, 2015 is a bad year and Q4 will record poor performances, hence risk Q1 index dropping further down. If you look at Dow, HSI and KLCI, it has not bottomed yet.

Posted by stars > 2015-10-16 11:22 | Report Abuse

if confident, buy more lor, keep avging down, ull be rich by March, when market "crash"

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-16 13:09 | Report Abuse

all the last time hv comment here de, now all disappear

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-16 13:10 | Report Abuse

i think all puttier change to call already

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 14:40 | Report Abuse

Dragon, they were sharks

Posted by nekosan > 2015-10-16 15:56 | Report Abuse

haha, treat warrant as stock ... keep until expiration ... all turn zero

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 16:24 | Report Abuse

Nekosan, it's risky but with right position, one could make easy money. Example C8 was 0.065, and made 120% profit in 4 weeks.

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-16 18:11 | Report Abuse

Ameobe, really 0.08

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-16 18:15 | Report Abuse

Cashflow, i think u better cut loss o

Posted by AMOEBA > 2015-10-16 19:28 | Report Abuse

drogonfai, this h5 really *c@ba1%##knm!^-lan*+-=% i keep on enter, prices keep on `gostan'...now mine average price is = 0.098 from 0.149

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 19:28 | Report Abuse

Strange for this warrant, the time decay is still below 1/3 of the put value. Shark playing on this counter too.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 19:32 | Report Abuse

I had averaged at 0.110. The index is very dynamic, the whole world watching on US Fed rate hike. If the rate increased this year, it will be a stock market crash globally. I presume they were about to issue the rate hike on Sept, hence entered this put. Now speculation it will be postponed next year. I have my cut loss target, but losing a lot at this stage too.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 19:39 | Report Abuse

The exercise level at 1500, hence if index settle closer to the exercise level, H5 will consolidate higher points. On 4th-Sep, when put was issued, the index was correlating with main share around 15++, and that's why it was higher than 0.2. Can KLCI survive above 1700 until end of the year? That's a million dollar question. There are bad news and good news. I think the bad news still prevail due to US Fed rate, and IMDB crisis. Worse, Malaysian stock, do they perform in Q3 and will they on Q4? That will certainly influence KLCI, so finger's cross. Trade at own risk.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-16 19:41 | Report Abuse

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Marketwatch/Stocks/?qcounter=FBMKLCI-H5

Refer chart. Is someone than suggesting that the put will forever remain below 0.1 until Mar 2016?

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-16 19:52 | Report Abuse

Cashflow, two points i agree v u is fed rate n 1mdb.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-17 09:50 | Report Abuse

Amoeba, what is your loss?

Posted by AMOEBA > 2015-10-17 11:26 | Report Abuse

cashflow, my losses based on current share prices for H5 & H21 -> $32k

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-17 14:18 | Report Abuse

Looks like you need to leverage closer for cut loss or wait longer to "gamble" the index movement. My loss $28k in this counter

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-17 14:32 | Report Abuse

Wah. Both of u so rich

Posted by traderman > 2015-10-17 15:57 | Report Abuse

Dec fed will hike interest ... Next week opposition gonna tabled no confidence against najib ... This 2 gonna plunge klci to 1200 and h5 will go 1.0

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-17 22:24 | Report Abuse

It all comes into sentiment in whether KLCI can plunge, but real driver is also blue chip stocks. Companies are suffering on quarterly results. Q3 and Q4 is the worse for most. Look at oil and gas alone

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-18 12:11 | Report Abuse

Traderman, hardly plunge to 1200.. 1500 i think will end of the year. Maybe only a.

Posted by 1star > 2015-10-18 15:49 | Report Abuse

In 2008 DJ lowest is 8000 pts and bull run until 2015 peak is 18,000 pts, so imagine in just 7 years the bull already run up 10,000 pts......u think the bull still can run up more???? This bull is about to collapse anytime!

Posted by Muhd Zaki Redzuan > 2015-10-18 19:39 | Report Abuse

And when is anytime?1 year, 2 years, 10 years?

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 08:51 | Report Abuse

Billionaires are hedging to make money.

Posted by kingcobra > 2015-10-19 09:16 | Report Abuse

a very GOOD MORNING , my dear H5 holders!

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 09:42 | Report Abuse

players panic to exit after index soared few points.

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 10:01 | Report Abuse

cheapest put, and lucky for those entered around 0.07

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 11:03 | Report Abuse

go go

Posted by nekosan > 2015-10-19 11:31 | Report Abuse

buy more ... market crash to 1500 soon

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 11:37 | Report Abuse

if KLCI 1500, this counter could profit 200%

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 11:57 | Report Abuse

This week most company release Q3 results, so brace for the worse

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 12:20 | Report Abuse

Don't miss the train folks!

Posted by kingcobra > 2015-10-19 14:37 | Report Abuse

today closing RED RED WINE

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-19 14:52 | Report Abuse

wow, those entered at 0.065, 23% profit in few hours

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-20 08:51 | Report Abuse

KLCI losing grip at 17++, prepare for H counters

Posted by cashflow > 2015-10-20 09:11 | Report Abuse

Buy! Don't miss the train

Posted by julian1981 > 2015-10-20 09:12 | Report Abuse

BUY

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-20 09:19 | Report Abuse

where got losing 17++ point = =

Posted by nekosan > 2015-10-20 09:22 | Report Abuse

cashflow said klci losing grip at 17xx ... , not loss 17xx point ...

Posted by drogonfai > 2015-10-20 09:36 | Report Abuse

ic, but don't so fast happy, have to see local retailer willing to push or not.