Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 08:45 | Report Abuse

In 1944, during the Bretton Woods conference British economist, John Maynard Keynes proposed BANCOR a new neutral reserve currency that would be used for settling international accounts. However, the US overruled this proposal in favor of a system of fixed exchange rates using the U.S. dollar (which was a gold standard currency for central banks) as a reserve currency. Now if commodity-rich nations such as Saudi Arabia and Russia suddenly decide to not use the dollar for global trade, then the trillion-dollar question is that what would be the next global reserve currency? Looking back at the history over the past few centuries, one has seen that the global reserve currency has changed hands every ~80-100 years. The dollar is nearing the 80-year mark also so a change of the guard in the next few years would not mean a deviation from the historical norm.he global reserve currency has been closely aligned with the overarching power in the world at that moment in history. China being a rising power sees itself as a Great Power (in its own mind at least) and would be in the mind of many as “calling the shots” in what the next global currency would be. While in theory, China would not mind having most of the world trade be conducted in yuan but given the Triffin dilemma that the US faces today this would be an obstacle. The Triffin dilemma is the conflict of economic interests that arises between short-term domestic and long-term international objectives for countries whose currencies serve as global reserve currencies. The use of the US dollar for global trade creates a big demand for dollars from all around the world leading to the dollar strengthening relative to other global currencies. This dollar strength made US exports become uncompetitive compared to their peers overseas. This has led to the hollowing out of the US manufacturing sector and a flight of jobs over the past few decades. This has imposed heavy costs on those who worked in blue-collar jobs across many areas of the US including the so-called “Rust Belt”. China being an export-led economy would not want to fall into the same trap as the United States. While they would like to have global trade denominated in yuan in principle (as a matter of national pride) one doubts if they want their exports (which are a big part of their economy) to become more expensive. Also, for all trade to settle in yuan China would have to export yuan to many other nations that would need yuan to settle trade with their trading partners. Given the strict capital controls in China, it would be surprising if China allows a lot of yuan to go out of the country to foreign shores. China has benefitted from the dollar system (running up trade surpluses year after year) where they can have their exports cheaper due to dollar strength so they would not mind having the reserve currency as something other than their own currency. Even if China wanted to set up the yuan as a default reserve currency the question is would other states fully embrace it?Today due to tensions with the West, Russia is forced into a friendship with China but they were not on the best of terms always including a military skirmish in 1969. Chinese from time to time bring up their territorial claims in the Russian Far East including Vladivostok which they say were given up by China as part of unequal treaties during their “150 years of humiliation” with foreign powers and now they want it back. Many other Asian neighbors including India, Vietnam, South Korea, Japan, etc. with which China has adversarial relations would also be wary of adopting a yuan-based reserve currency where they would be dependent on China to obtain yuan for their trading. Also, in event of military hostilities with China or its allies, they can (like what Russia is facing right now) could be “cut off” from the reserve currency yuan which would be determinantal to them. A return to a system like BANCOR (neutral reserve currency) proposed by Keynes in 1944 would require active cooperation between many nations across the world. With active geopolitical tensions among various sets of nation pairs: Russia and USA, USA and China, Europe and Russia, Saudi Arabia/UAE and Iran, etc. the chances of another “Bretton Woods” kind of consensus are next to nil.

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foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-03-28 08:54 | Report Abuse

I heard US dollar collapsed almost everyday for the past 20 years unfortunately it does not happen. It seems like this "news" will repeat over and over everywhere in the coming 20 years.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 11:43 | Report Abuse

foongsh, sad though in the next 60-70 years maybe.

Assume Xi live to 85, then 15 years more of these bullshit will come up. Until China fell and want to stand up again.

In fact, this is the struggle between self-reliance and open to the world. Whenever China is open to the world, it will grow strong. When she is close, it will shrink. It has been this way for the last 400 years. So, China fell and stand up again, and again, and again. Its very sad for the China Chinese, but history repeats itself.

The last time, they had this fighters in the forest, this time they have "fighters" in the internet. Isn't that an improvement?

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 11:51 | Report Abuse

the sustainable solution is a multi polar world not totally replace the USD...................and China is working on it.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 11:53 | Report Abuse

xi is smarter than all of u put together.

China is smarter than all of u put together.

China has seen it all, knows the consequences, well advised , got thousands of experts advising the top policy makers.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 11:54 | Report Abuse

They are still people believe in AT and I respect that. Just hope that they vote with their money too.

Actually if those CCP supporters can support China with their money, then Huawei's sales won't drop 80%. They say Huawei no Google lah (now got back already), no 5G lah blah blah blah.

Actually they can order their custom made cloth using XinJiang cotton, but they will never do so. That's why China textiles struggling.

Actually they talk only, they won't support the china bamboo, china duck, china wine, china shoes, china refinery, that's why stock price of those china listed not so good.

On the contrary, they eat kfc, we eat kfc, everybody eat kfc. Starbucks, gillette, mcD, burger king, pepsi, coke, all doing so well. lol

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 11:55 | Report Abuse

keeping its economy open is a top priority ....the decoupling is not China's choice, it is forced upon it. China has been preparing for it a long long time.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 12:05 | Report Abuse

這個qqq47660說的不對。

乾隆爺當年也天資聰穎,為什麼會搞海禁?

你知道秦二世也很聰明,為什麼會滅亡了?

隋陽帝也不錯的,卻三征高句麗(就是韓國)搞得民窮財盡,而天下大亂!

崇禎也不蠢,只是性格有點怪。

你知道毛澤東也很聰明嗎?我看當時全中國也就他的字寫得最好,詩詞也寫得非常出色,單是詩詞就足以名垂青史。可是他為什麼要輸出革命、滿世界的派武器。

但qqq47660說的不對,習近平並不聰明。但是絕對硬頸!

養成他今天的性格,與他母親的縱容有很大關係。而他父親習仲勛,對他的教誨完全不起作用。

至於習的advisor,講真話的不是流亡就是坐牢中,剩下七常委中僅二人是正正經經上過大學的。(當然與時代背景有關,他們這個年齡段的人一般都是青年時期在文革中渡過,七七年才恢復高考,七八年跳過中學直接讀大學)

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 12:14 | Report Abuse

最近捉了劉亞洲。這老兄老厲害了,從低做起,娶了李先念的女兒,晉上將。

這人文韜武略,寫了幾十本書。但是他說了別打台灣...否則完蛋。

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:14 | Report Abuse

China has many priorities and many problems to solve to get to where it wants to go.

top priorities include strengthening and expanding Brics+, self reliance in chips, keep the economy open, .................. and a very real possibility of a US led recession , US stealing its USD reserves like what they do to Putin.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:18 | Report Abuse

If u follow China news sources, u will see lots of news regarding BRICS+ in these few years.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:20 | Report Abuse

China has very modest targets, achievable targets . China has very smart people running their economy.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:24 | Report Abuse

China can achieve its targets only if global south do well, BRICS+ do well...............this assumption is already bakes in............there is too much risk if over reliance on the developed world not to make huge mistakes.

nicholas99

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2023-03-28 12:24 | Report Abuse

Won't collapse so fast.. china still holds a lot of assets and securities in USD. US + Europe still 2/3 of world GDP. Geographical restriction. It is always good to be friendly with neighbors because of the cost of shipping and etc. So far, South korea and Japan are Pro-US.
It will happen over the course of 20 years starting with Middle East & Russia..
It just needs to make it happen with South East Asia (which I doubt due to the dispute of territory) and Europe (serious tie with US & UK)
Once China overtook US in GDP, it will only be able to convince those 50 50 countries.
1. Yuan- global oil yuan
2. Hongkong - number 1 financial hub
3. Loosen the immigration rules. (I understand China want to prioritize their citizen first. But by opening the border, he will be attract more talent and money)
It will take more than 20 years for this to finally happen.
I know China military expenses are considered low. But they expand rapidly.. which causes concern there will be a small skirmish and their neighbors grew wary. Maybe can start making statements on the purpose of the military, for example, to protect china ships near Africa region etc..

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:25 | Report Abuse

and Africa and South East Asia is a big part of China solution.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:28 | Report Abuse

I myself, I am very bullish about Africa............I believe Africa will do well in coming decades.

nicholas99

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2023-03-28 12:30 | Report Abuse

Africa infrastructure is very bad. still at its infant stage. will take at least 10 years to became like Vietnam.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:30 | Report Abuse

I believe Africa has the capacity to learn.............and China has the capacity to teach..........and China has the money, the expertise, the history , the willingness to transform Africa.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:31 | Report Abuse

Posted by nicholas99 > 37 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Africa infrastructure is very bad. still at its infant stage. will take at least 10 years to became like Vietnam.
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its not a 10 years project, its a 50 years project.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:37 | Report Abuse

by 2050, people will see Africa as a completely different continent.

u want too see the future of Africa, go and research Rwanda.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 12:38 | Report Abuse

Rwanda used to be a genocide country but today Rwanda is known as the singapore of africa.

nicholas99

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2023-03-28 12:52 | Report Abuse

education and mindset changing are important if they want to be richer. some country reluctant to do that because the leaders want to keep tight control of the country and pass it down to their son. like Tun M

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 14:06 | Report Abuse

甄子丹可以打贏泰森嗎?

在電影裡當然可以,所以打打嘴炮,無傷大雅!

真的上擂台,就是找死。

在現實中,要打贏泰森,靠打嘴炮是不行的。你必須在所有正式的競爭中贏過美國。而如今中共做的,依舊靠打嘴炮而看不見實干。

比如說美國人的好奇號等可以在火星上旅遊幾年,而中國的祝融號卻一睡不起。
比如說美台已經搞二奈米、一奈米,而中國還在十四奈米晶片上裹足不前。
不勝枚舉!

前不久就可以看到華為的例子,說自製二奈米啦,說鴻蒙系統啦,說5G天下無敵啦,說自己有六千個博士碩士啦,說問題在於賺的錢太多啦,說中國的問題在於幼教缺教師啦。始終沒有面對現實,作出相應的努力來應對困局!

結果華為依舊是華為,靠抄Android困在4G,手機銷量跌八成!

前不久的BAIDU也一樣,只能靠抄。

同樣的,今天的中國有好好的發展科技嗎?有好好的正視問題嗎?始終希望靠著打嘴炮去污蔑對手,靠煽動一些人的無知的小粉紅就可以贏過美國?天真啊!

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-03-28 14:13 | Report Abuse

Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse

foongsh, sad though in the next 60-70 years maybe.

Assume Xi live to 85, then 15 years more of these bullshit will come up. Until China fell and want to stand up again.

In fact, this is the struggle between self-reliance and open to the world. Whenever China is open to the world, it will grow strong. When she is close, it will shrink. It has been this way for the last 400 years. So, China fell and stand up again, and again, and again. Its very sad for the China Chinese, but history repeats itself.

The last time, they had this fighters in the forest, this time they have "fighters" in the internet. Isn't that an improvement?

Xi must an excuss to be the 3rd term of the leader, so he must get an enemy to unite all Citizens and oversea red army to support him ie. US. Difference from Deng, Jiang and HU, he was a red army before and practising Moa ways to carry on his political life. China citizens are too bad. You are right when china open, China wil be strong but when China constrain itself ...will be weak.

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-03-28 14:23 | Report Abuse

When Hong Kong lossing his No.1 financial hub to Singapore. Red army thought that Hong Kong is still the no.1. Forgot to remind u that it is UK administration to make Hong Kong No.1 financial hub in Asia and not communists.

brightsmart

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Posted by brightsmart > 2023-03-28 14:27 | Report Abuse

HK will be a much better place for it's young people as it's housing and employment problems will be solved

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-03-28 14:31 | Report Abuse

Malaysia will be a much better place for it's young people as it's race and religion problems will be solved

nicholas99

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Posted by nicholas99 > 2023-03-28 14:49 | Report Abuse

go see US. white cop killing black ppl. US also like that, you talk what malaysia will be much better place if race and religion problem solved. crazy

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 14:52 | Report Abuse

brightsmart,

In Hong Kong, around 40-50% of the housing is provided by the government, which is cheap and affordable. Another 55% or so is by private (which is really expensive).

Actually hong kong has plenty of land for its people,
1) But, not enough utilities.
Unlike malaysia, Ecoworld can build a township over 3 years or so, but in hk the developer cannot do so. There is simply no road, no electricity, no water supply for new township even if you have land. (For me, hong kong government is simple lazy).

2) some say the nature lovers will protest to development, but i think that's nonsense.

3) now hk may face depeg of us dollar, losing its status as financial centre, etc. (Well, Hong Kong wants to be part of China and China insist Hong Kong is part of China, so there should be no special status given to Hong Kong. Can Kedah goes to Olympics under Kedah? No! So, the same apply to Hong Kong, Ng Ka Long represents China and not Hong Kong. Since China and Hong Kong government doesn't likes 願榮光歸香港 being confused as national song. )

4) Now China developers can go hong kong, so they can build township everywhere without considering nature lovers feeling. So, yes, hong kong property will go down very soon, good for hong kong young people.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:53 | Report Abuse

为了汗血宝马汉武帝发动了两次战争 In order to get the horse Han Emperor Wudi of Han launched two wars

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:54 | Report Abuse

Did Ancient China Invade other Countries ? - Vietnam

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:55 | Report Abuse

Did Ancient China Invade other Countries ? - Korean

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:56 | Report Abuse

From the ancient history of Korean, various ancient dynasty of China did invade ancient Korean. Western & Eastern races did invad other countries. The moral of the story is to avoid any war caused by whatever reason. Please read my writting.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:56 | Report Abuse

From the ancient history of Vietnam , various ancient dynasty of China did invade ancient Korean. Western & Eastern races did invad other countries. The moral of the story is to avoid any war caused by whatever reason. Please read my writtin

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 14:58 | Report Abuse

Posted by nicholas99 > 7 minutes ago | Report Abuse

go see US. white cop killing black ppl. US also like that, you talk what malaysia will be much better place if race and religion problem solved. crazy

You may believe what u believe and I believe what I believe. Who the hell r u commented crazy.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:05 | Report Abuse

vietnam and China sure work together...they have lots in common.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:07 | Report Abuse

vietnam and China sure work together...they have lots in common.

I would say the vietnam China relation is manageable.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 15:07 | Report Abuse

u may continue your tape recording statement over and over here.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:09 | Report Abuse

the uighers can have a harmonious relationship in China.

the blacks in America are having a hard time.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 15:10 | Report Abuse

Nicholas, you are mistaken. The cop is being testified and sentenced. Then in general that's no problem.

Its the opposite in your 祖國. They protect the criminal and arrest the victim. That's so so sad

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 15:10 | Report Abuse

Posted by supersaiyan3 > 31 seconds ago | Report Abuse

IDQWE001, you are mistaken. The cop is being testified and sentenced. Then in general that's no problem.

Its the opposite in your 祖國. They protect the criminal and arrest the victim. That's so so sad.

You are right the white cop been punished. This is internation Laws and not jungle Laws.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:12 | Report Abuse

ted by supersaiyan3 > 19 seconds ago | Report Abuse

Nicholas, you are mistaken. The cop is being testified and sentenced. Then in general that's no problem.

Its the opposite in your 祖國. They protect the criminal and arrest the victim. That's so so
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over 90% approval rating for their government in China

that is more democratics than in America.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 15:15 | Report Abuse

Seems like this qqq was in HY and JAKS, what's wrong with him huh? Maybe he is one of the followers of KYY? lol

Pity.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 15:16 | Report Abuse

supersaiyan3, QQQ seems like lonely old man giving his statement here without proof but from his imagination over and over just like tape recording.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 15:17 | Report Abuse

I will ignore everything from qqq, poor boy.

supersaiyan3

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Posted by supersaiyan3 > 2023-03-28 15:18 | Report Abuse

IDQWE001, yup. Go easy on him.

Most of his posts not related to stock already. Maybe no money buy liao. poor old man

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:22 | Report Abuse

my trades in hy and jaks have been profitable for me............in fact thinking of buying HY now................

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:23 | Report Abuse

spend your whole life writing lies fabricating lies about China is a life worth living meh?

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-03-28 15:25 | Report Abuse

Posted by supersaiyan3 > 6 minutes ago | Report Abuse

I will ignore everything from qqq, poor boy.

Smart people dont like talking to tape recording machine. everybody ignore him .... poor old man.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:25 | Report Abuse

recently my profits are from Top Glove in Malaysia and Xinte in HK............................................................I am doing very well.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-03-28 15:27 | Report Abuse

there are lots of good info and good video about China from the internet................that is a much better way to spend some time than writing lies about China.

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