Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 15:25 | Report Abuse

Bull and bear markets are part of any country history but will not stop China rejuvenation or China make in China 2025 , or China 2030 or China 2049.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 15:50 | Report Abuse

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qqq frustrated and angry not because of CCP being accused, it was because he really invested those CCP stocks and HSI just like what he believed. Lol.

He should only visit CCP website for his wonder world, unfortunately he can't understand the most beautiful language and lost his own identity.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 16:12 | Report Abuse

Moody's cuts China's credit outlook to negative
Stock Markets
Published Dec 05, 2023 03:05AM ET

(Reuters) - Ratings agency Moody's (NYSE:MCO) on Tuesday cut its outlook on China's government credit ratings to negative from stable, citing lower medium-term economic growth and ongoing downsizing of the property sector.

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 16:28 | Report Abuse

and gentle reminder to QQQ
most of the Chinese be it China Chinese or Outside China Chinese uphold ancient Chinese Value
on the contrary CCP who is the one destroys and created its own CCP Value that against ancient Chinese Value.
To CCP, Ancient Chinese Value just a tool can and can don't carry dependence on the benefit it gains to the CCP.

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 16:44 | Report Abuse

i am merely talking about CCP and not Whole China, QQQ.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 16:52 | Report Abuse

China is today the most vibrant innovative country..... U think can be vibrant innovative country if the governed and the government moves in different direction?

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 16:52 | Report Abuse

By the way QQQ, have you read 菜根谭，老子道德经，庄子逍遥游，孔子论语，孙子兵法 etc ancient books?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 16:54 | Report Abuse

Actually China is far more united than Malaysia.....so what u want to talk?

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 16:55 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq47660 > 30 seconds ago | Report Abuse
China is today the most vibrant innovative country..... U think can be vibrant innovative country if the governed and the government moves in different direction?

I do think that if China last time was to rule by GuoMingDang, today China will be much advance than what it is today by many folds.
Just look at how TSMC and HongHai you will know.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 16:58 | Report Abuse

Xiao...the revival of ancient tradition is at least 30 years in China already...there is no one to stop u if u want to read ancient books, wear ancient dress in China.

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 17:00 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq47660 > 2 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Actually China is far more united than Malaysia.....so what u want to talk?

Why u want to compare China to our small little country like what u mentioned earlier?
and why u still staying here Malaysia?
you should long move back to China if Malaysia no good, right?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:01 | Report Abuse

Taiwan is just a tool for America to use against China

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 17:02 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq47660 > 1 minute ago | Report Abuse
Xiao...the revival of ancient tradition is at least 30 years in China already...there is no one to stop u if u want to read ancient books, wear ancient dress in China.

You are very contradicting.
Are you the one taking about ancient Chinese Value?
Now you said other thing instead.

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 17:03 | Report Abuse

stop here bro.
Have a nice day

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:04 | Report Abuse

What I want to say is China is a very united very well governed place.....all developing countries can learn a lot from China, not spreading lies about China.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:08 | Report Abuse

Confucianism has never left China. It is deep within China culture...in the early years the revolution, china wants to be modern and Confucius is considered to be backwards but that no longer true as China regains confidence .

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:11 | Report Abuse

Taiwan is just a puppy dog..the Americans owners will just feed it enough for it to survive

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:31 | Report Abuse

The smartest, the most patriotic, the most hard working joins the CPC.....what do you mean by love Chinese hates CPC? More America propaganda because America lives in fear of losing America hegemony

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:32 | Report Abuse

Give it a few more decades where will America be?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 17:36 | Report Abuse

The sooner Taiwan starts negotiating with the mainland the better the terms they will get. In a few more decades Taiwan will not have any bargaining powers and the mainland will just take it over without any negotiations

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-05 17:59 | Report Abuse

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Moody's cuts China's credit outlook to negative
Stock Markets
Published Dec 05, 2023 03:05AM ET

(Reuters) - Ratings agency Moody's (NYSE:MCO) on Tuesday cut its outlook on China's government credit ratings to negative from stable, citing lower medium-term economic growth and ongoing downsizing of the property sector.

Real estate bubble, financial crisis, jobless rate, global supply chain restructuring, technology banned, local government debts only created by CCP. Worse than 3rd countries.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-05 18:02 | Report Abuse

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China is today the most vibrant innovative country..... U think can be vibrant innovative country if the governed and the government moves in different direction?

I do think that if China last time was to rule by GuoMingDang, today China will be much advance than what it is today by many folds.
Just look at how TSMC and HongHai you will know.

Been proven by GDP per capital with free speaking and democratic election.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 18:14 | Report Abuse

Give it a few more decades where will America be?

in the last years of american hegemony, the only thing they have left are american propaganda media.

Posted by mudaBubu > 2023-12-05 18:20 | Report Abuse

CCP literally is china, no china no ccp vice versa

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 18:20 | Report Abuse

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Posted by qqq47660 > 30 seconds ago | Report Abuse
China is today the most vibrant innovative country..... U think can be vibrant innovative country if the governed and the government moves in different direction?

I do think that if China last time was to rule by GuoMingDang, today China will be much advance than what it is today by many folds.
Just look at how TSMC and HongHai you will know.

Been proven by GDP per capital with free speaking and democratic election.

Giving 70 years to CCP, end up Real estate bubble, financial crisis, jobless rate, global supply chain restructuring, technology banned, local government debts. Worse than 3rd world countries.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 18:50 | Report Abuse

The popular song in China is no CPC no new China.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 18:52 | Report Abuse

The habit of demonising others is not Chinese culture, not a Chinese thing but an ugly part of America culture.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 18:53 | Report Abuse

Both Confucian and Buddha teach people not to talk bad about others.

Posted by xiaoeh > 2023-12-05 19:52 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq47660 > 56 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Both Confucian and Buddha teach people not to talk bad about others.

Yes
QQQ likes to talk bad about US and Western, and brag and sing song his own leader
IDQ and Fongsh like to talk bad about CCP

Can both party come to compromise do not talk bad each other? and
don't brag and sing song?

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 20:08 | Report Abuse

New song in China no CCP :
no Real estate bubble, no financial crisis, no high jobless rate, no global supply chain restructuring, no technology banned, no local government debts.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 20:12 | Report Abuse

Ringgit lower against US dollar on yuan's weakness

KUALA LUMPUR: The ringgit ended lower against the US dollar on Tuesday following the weakening in the Chinese yuan after ratings agency Moody's cut its outlook on China's government credit ratings to negative.

At 6 pm, the ringgit decreased to 4.6610/6660 against the greenback from Monday’s close of 4.6550/6600.

Bank Muamalat Malaysia chief economist Mohd Afzanizam Abdul Rashid said the downgrade from stable to negative suggests that the odds of possible sovereign rating cut for China has escalated.

"This happened as the China government is ramping up its fiscal stimulus measures to bolster its economic actitivities as it needs to grapple with the weakening property markets.

"I think given that there is a positive correlation between the yuan and the ringgit, the weakneses in the yuan could result in a weaker ringgit,” he told Bernama.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 20:14 | Report Abuse

The moral of the story stay away from bad apple.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 20:20 | Report Abuse

not just me, the whole global south don't like american hegemony.

just wait a few decades and see what happens to america hegemony.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 20:24 | Report Abuse

The US dollar is central to Argentina's plan to fix its broken economy. There's just one hitch.

-Argentina's new president Javier Milei wants to adopt the US dollar to tame sky-high inflation.
-There's a major problem with his plan to revive the ailing South American economy.
-The Argentinian government doesn't have enough dollar reserves to ditch the peso, economists say.

Global south talks only soik sendiri.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 20:39 | Report Abuse

american hegemony can last another few decades meh? internal contradictions will destroy america before that.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 20:43 | Report Abuse

as for argentina, China sends its congratulations to the new President.

that is the difference between China and america.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-05 20:55 | Report Abuse

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Ringgit lower against US dollar on yuan's weakness

70 years ago Mao & its CCP keep on saying the fall of Ameica.

1. Kong Dongmei, granddaughter of Mao Zedong
2. Deng Zhifanf, son of Deng Xiaoping
3. Deng Zhuodi, grandson of Deng Xiaoping
4. Zhuo Yue, granddaughter of Deng Xiaoping
5. Jiang Mianheng, eldest son of Jiang Zemin
6. Jiang Zhicheng, grandson of Jiang Zemin
7. Hu Haiqing, daugter of Hu Jintao
8. Xi Mingze, daugter of Xi Jinping
9. Yang Jiechi, senior member of CCP entire family
10. too many just ignore the rest

End up all the above CCP 2nd and 3rd generation surrendered to America.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-05 21:27 | Report Abuse

Ke Lingling, ex-wife of Xi, divorced and moved to UK.

Xi Mingze , daugter of Xi, studied in US and migrated there

Qi Qiaoqiao, sister of Xi, Canada resident

Deng Jiagui, brother in-law, Canada resident

Xi Yuanping, younger brother of Xi, Australia resident

Daniel Foa, nephew-in-law of Xi, British

The entire family of Xi are Western related.

"Being Anti-America Is Work , Living In America Is Life". The principle of CCP.

Why not Russia, North Korea, Iran because Xi family love Western.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-05 22:07 | Report Abuse

taiwan would be smart to start negotiations with mainland. In a few decades no more negotiations, mainland will just take over Taiwan.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-05 22:48 | Report Abuse

Posted by foongsh > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

Ke Lingling, ex-wife of Xi, divorced and moved to UK.

Xi Mingze , daugter of Xi, studied in US and migrated there

Qi Qiaoqiao, sister of Xi, Canada resident

Deng Jiagui, brother in-law, Canada resident

Xi Yuanping, younger brother of Xi, Australia resident

Daniel Foa, nephew-in-law of Xi, British

The entire family of Xi are Western related.

"Being Anti-America Is Work , Living In America Is Life". The principle of CCP.

Why not Russia, North Korea, Iran because Xi family love Western.

CCP is negotiating with Westerns for surrendering.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-06 11:26 | Report Abuse

In 1979, Ke Lingling married Xi Jinping, but their life philosophy differed. Ke wanted to move to the UK, where her father at this time served as ambassador, but Xi refused to accompany her. In 1982 they divorced, ending three years of marriage; they had no children. After they divorced, Ke immigrated to the UK.In 1979, Ke Lingling married Xi Jinping, but their life philosophy differed. Ke wanted to move to the UK, where her father at this time served as ambassador, but Xi refused to accompany her. In 1982 they divorced, ending three years of marriage; they had no children. After they divorced, Ke immigrated to the UK.

Xi jinping remarried in 1987

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-06 11:28 | Report Abuse

In the 1980s Xi jinping is just a low level government official

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-06 11:40 | Report Abuse

Taiwan dpp people so determined to tell lies about China. Just eliminate them is best

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-06 11:42 | Report Abuse

Xi jinping shared destiny for mankind is more important than dpp politics

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-12-06 11:45 | Report Abuse

Xi jinping thoughts include shared destiny for mankind, global sustainable initiative, global governance initiative,

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-06 15:31 | Report Abuse

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 39 minutes ago | Report Abuse

Ringgit lower against US dollar on yuan's weakness

70 years ago Mao & its CCP keep on saying the fall of Ameica.

1. Kong Dongmei, granddaughter of Mao Zedong
2. Deng Zhifanf, son of Deng Xiaoping
3. Deng Zhuodi, grandson of Deng Xiaoping
4. Zhuo Yue, granddaughter of Deng Xiaoping
5. Jiang Mianheng, eldest son of Jiang Zemin
6. Jiang Zhicheng, grandson of Jiang Zemin
7. Hu Haiqing, daugter of Hu Jintao
8. Xi Mingze, daugter of Xi Jinping
9. Yang Jiechi, senior member of CCP entire family
10. too many just ignore the rest

End up all the above CCP 2nd and 3rd generation surrendered to America.

CCP loves America most and make America great again.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-06 15:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by IDQWE001 > 16 hours ago | Report Abuse

Posted by foongsh > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse

Ke Lingling, ex-wife of Xi, divorced and moved to UK.

Xi Mingze , daugter of Xi, studied in US and migrated there

Qi Qiaoqiao, sister of Xi, Canada resident

Deng Jiagui, brother in-law, Canada resident

Xi Yuanping, younger brother of Xi, Australia resident

Daniel Foa, nephew-in-law of Xi, British

The entire family of Xi are Western related.

"Being Anti-America Is Work , Living In America Is Life". The principle of CCP.

Why not Russia, North Korea, Iran because Xi family love Western.

CCP is negotiating with Westerns for surrendering.

Xi family already surrender to Westerns.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-12 06:44 | Report Abuse

POWERLONG JOINS CHINA’S DEFAULTING DEVELOPER CLUB AFTER MISSING $16M INTEREST PAYMENT

Mainland developer Powerlong has joined the growing list of defaulting Chinese builders after missing a coupon payment on an offshore bond and hiring restructuring advisors, according to a company stock exchange filing on Tuesday.

Having failed to pay $15.9 million in interest on a set of dollar bonds by the 30 October due date, the developer said this week that it had failed to honour that obligation within the 30-day grace period, triggering a default and setting the stage for a debt restructuring.

Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-12-18 15:33 | Report Abuse

China banks step up sales of bad loans as consumer defaults rise

SHANGHAI/SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Chinese banks are putting bad loans up for sale at a record pace, as regulators push for faster disposal of sour debts amid rising consumer defaults during an ailing post-COVID economic recovery.

Issuance this year of securities backed by non-performing loans (NPLs) is set to jump about 40% from a year ago to a record, data from a ratings agency showed, as lenders rush to offload distressed assets linked to mortgage, credit card and consumer borrowings.

This week alone, six banks including China Everbright (OTC:CHFFF) Bank and Bank of Jiangsu plan to issue 1.5 billion yuan ($210.49 million) worth of asset-backed securities (ABS) based on bad loans, according to sales prospectuses reviewed by Reuters.

Posted by foongsh > 2023-12-18 18:16 | Report Abuse

No wonder 8 CCP banks downgraded by Moody.