Posted by FortuneBull777 > 2023-10-09 16:08 | Report Abuse

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558 comment(s). Last comment by qqq47660 2023-10-22 11:33

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-20 16:49 | Report Abuse

How much? A lot kah?

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-10-20 17:28 | Report Abuse

Morgan Stanley Warns Against Buying the Dip in Chinese Stocks By Bloomberg News
October 20, 2023 at 1:36 PM GMT+8
- Foreign funds withdrawal from shares at ‘unprecedented’ stage
- Redemptions could pick up towards year-end amid higher rates

Morgan Stanley is advising investors against buying the dip in Chinese stocks, warning that foreign funds may keep selling unless there is further policy easing and sentiment is likely to remain fragile.

Foreign investors’ outflow from the so-called A-share market has entered “an unprecedented stage,” Morgan Stanley strategists including Laura Wang wrote in a note, stating that the cumulative outflow of $22.1 billion from Aug. 7 to Oct. 19 is the largest in Stock Connect’s history. The Stock Connect refers to trading links between China and Hong Kong.

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-10-20 17:36 | Report Abuse

Mega-Cap China Tech Bears Brunt of Deepening Foreigner Exodus October 20, 2023 at 7:16 AM GMT+8
- US, EU funds sell net $1.6 billion of China shares this month

Foreign money managers are bailing on some of the biggest names in China’s technology sector as a global exodus from the nation’s equities deepens.

US and European fund managers have sold a net $1.6 billion of Chinese shares so far this month, following $3.5 billion of outflows in September, data from EPFR Global and Morgan Stanley show. Tech names are being hit hardest, with companies including Tencent Holdings Ltd., Alibaba Group Holding Ltd. and JD.com Inc. seeing the most selling, strategists from the New York-based bank led by Gilbert Wong and Laura Wang wrote in a Thursday report.
- Tencent, Alibaba among names sold most, Morgan Stanley says

Zazzyy

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Posted by Zazzyy > 2023-10-20 17:38 | Report Abuse

walow debate still on . did you make any money ?

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 17:44 | Report Abuse

make money or not depends on the trend. Not all the time make money...........but all the time, real economy in China goes ahead.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 17:46 | Report Abuse

instead of 2023 a bad year...............2023 is the year Huawei mate 60 and Chinese EV dominate the world market.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 17:47 | Report Abuse

instead of 2023 a bad year...............2023 is the year Huawei mate 60 and Chinese EV dominate the world market.

both are hugely significant for the future.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 19:25 | Report Abuse

the luckiest people are the Chinese........so many choices and options in China.

BYD is the leader but there is also the Huawei car Aito, Geely Zeekr, Volvo, polestar, SIC MG, GAC AION, Nio, X peng, Li, Neeta, Cherry, Huawei Cherry, wuling, many many more. from USD 10,000 to USD 200,000.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 19:37 | Report Abuse

over the next few years, all foreign brands not tesla especially Japanese cars will disappear from China...and the German become niche players with small market share.

this is decoupling, not because of government policy but consumer choice.

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-10-20 20:25 | Report Abuse

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Mega-Cap China Tech Bears Brunt of Deepening Foreigner Exodus October 20, 2023 at 7:16 AM GMT+8
- US, EU funds sell net $1.6 billion of China shares this month

Good, check what is the best trading stock in Bursa. those who don't believe will lose his pant. Lol.

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-10-20 20:27 | Report Abuse

Nvidia’s top gamer graphics card caught up in US-China trade war
Published Fri, Oct 20, 2023 · 11:52 am

CHINESE gamers now have to pay more than double the list price of Nvidia’s flagship consumer graphics card after it was caught up in a US technology export ban on its biggest geopolitical rival.

Prices for the year-old GeForce RTX 4090, originally listed at US$1,599, are now as high as 29,000 yuan (S$5,498) on Alibaba Group Holding’s Taobao marketplace as retailers begin to pull it from their shelves. The RTX 4090 is Nvidia’s top-of-the-line GPU and an aspirational item for gamers worldwide, but it’s now prohibited to export to China without a US government license after its performance was found to exceed a threshold set by American officials, Nvidia said in a filing this week.

What a pity eventually no computer game. Lol.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 21:55 | Report Abuse

America will continue to sanction China and China will continue to solve problems....it's actually very good for China.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 22:03 | Report Abuse

No one expected Huawei mate 60 to be so advanced. It's game over for America

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 22:15 | Report Abuse

trying to break China 's legs in order to stay ahead is first of all, immoral .

IDQWE001

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Posted by IDQWE001 > 2023-10-20 22:39 | Report Abuse

Posted by foongsh > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse

Nvidia’s top gamer graphics card caught up in US-China trade war
Published Fri, Oct 20, 2023 · 11:52 am

CHINESE gamers now have to pay more than double the list price of Nvidia’s flagship consumer graphics card after it was caught up in a US technology export ban on its biggest geopolitical rival.

Prices for the year-old GeForce RTX 4090, originally listed at US$1,599, are now as high as 29,000 yuan (S$5,498) on Alibaba Group Holding’s Taobao marketplace as retailers begin to pull it from their shelves. The RTX 4090 is Nvidia’s top-of-the-line GPU and an aspirational item for gamers worldwide, but it’s now prohibited to export to China without a US government license after its performance was found to exceed a threshold set by American officials, Nvidia said in a filing this week.

What a pity eventually no computer game. Lol.

Very pity SMIC could not produce excellent computer game chips, no problem lah CCP just played 5 years ago computer game lah.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 22:56 | Report Abuse

can make kirin 9000 chips cannot make chips good enough for AI meh?

China says bring it on.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-20 22:58 | Report Abuse

trying to break China 's legs in order to stay ahead is first of all, immoral .

China has seen this script before.

foongsh

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Posted by foongsh > 2023-10-20 23:50 | Report Abuse

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Posted by foongsh > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse

Nvidia’s top gamer graphics card caught up in US-China trade war
Published Fri, Oct 20, 2023 · 11:52 am

CHINESE gamers now have to pay more than double the list price of Nvidia’s flagship consumer graphics card after it was caught up in a US technology export ban on its biggest geopolitical rival.

Prices for the year-old GeForce RTX 4090, originally listed at US$1,599, are now as high as 29,000 yuan (S$5,498) on Alibaba Group Holding’s Taobao marketplace as retailers begin to pull it from their shelves. The RTX 4090 is Nvidia’s top-of-the-line GPU and an aspirational item for gamers worldwide, but it’s now prohibited to export to China without a US government license after its performance was found to exceed a threshold set by American officials, Nvidia said in a filing this week.

What a pity eventually no computer game. Lol.

Very pity SMIC could not produce excellent computer game chips, no problem lah CCP just played 5 years ago computer game lah.

If CCP know to manufacture those AI chips then no need to pay more than double lah.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 08:05 | Report Abuse

No. Not Israel, but ringgit value, hence livelihood of the M40 & B40 will.

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2023-10-21 09:18 | Report Abuse

Ya lah why PMX & PH must be busy body take sides Israel-Palestine war? Israel-Palestine war is not our business! Because we take sides, global funds dump our Ringgit! And this indirectly make we rakyat suffer!

speakup

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Posted by speakup > 2023-10-21 09:20 | Report Abuse

Now u know why I give PMX a grade D!

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 12:38 | Report Abuse

Many fail to understand that the every fo the palacetinian have to pay the price for the few hamass cowards who have no guts to surrender themselves

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 12:39 | Report Abuse

Because their leaders fail to help the ppl to understand.

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-21 13:22 | Report Abuse

I think it is ok to be cowards. The most important is to stay alive to fight another day. The story of liu pang general Han xin very useful

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-21 13:26 | Report Abuse

What could PMX done different?

PMX could have gone to xijnping forum in Beijing but he chose not. PMX could choose to open doors to Palestine refugees but he choose not

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-21 13:28 | Report Abuse

PMX has instead chosen to go to Saudi forum...PMX has chosen the safest least controversial option

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 13:42 | Report Abuse

Yes, pmx could get them to Dubai - full of land, food and $$$$$

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 17:05 | Report Abuse

Humanity unites.........till faith keeps them apart

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 19:38 | Report Abuse

What to do? 可怜之人必有可恨之处. 物以類聚, 人以群分.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:05 | Report Abuse

Embracing humanity, equality and the golden rule will always triumph. With religion, come inherent discrimination and endless conflicts.

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 20:20 | Report Abuse

Hatred is deep into their subconscious mind. They need to wait for the real holy spirit leader emerged to solve this complex problem.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:41 | Report Abuse

Enough conflicts and wars, yet these blind followers couldn't see what's wrong with their faith. Blind blind dumb dumb

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 20:41 | Report Abuse

The hatred is not only suffered by this generation and it would pass down to another new generation without being aware of it.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:42 | Report Abuse

They fail to learn from history over thousand years. Failure failure useless useless

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 20:46 | Report Abuse

If you look deep into our negative emotion then you would know how difficult to deal with it and heal it.

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 20:50 | Report Abuse

In short, they are that (or karma) and simply accept the truth but It doesn't mean we approved their actions in our heart.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:51 | Report Abuse

Difficult would become effortless when seeing from a different perspective. One of them would be Ethanism:

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:56 | Report Abuse

Ethanian Universalism for kids

The typical human body has 4 × 1027 hydrogen atoms and 2 × 1027 oxygen atoms in it! If each of us accumulates atoms randomly, that still means that each of us, on average, have hundreds of billions of atoms that were, a year ago, inside each and every other person on Earth. Hundreds of billions of atoms are in your body not only from me and everyone else on Earth, but also from dinosaurs that lived millions of years ago.

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 20:56 | Report Abuse

We are not in their shoes, therefore, we have a clearer picture looking from the outside. It is very difficult to be aware of once the strong hatred is penetrated into the subconscious mind. The emotional is too strong and uncontrollable (out of mind) once being triggered.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:57 | Report Abuse

With the right education and guidance, difficulty is a non-issue. Things would become as spontaneous and effortless as the flow of Tao

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 20:59 | Report Abuse

Sending over 6000 missiles....OMG. What kind of punishment they expect?

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 21:01 | Report Abuse

Of course, the right education is better than nothing else to suppress the hatred emotional from easily being triggered.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 21:16 | Report Abuse

Not suppress. That's not good enough. Like bad habit - cannot be broken, but can be replace by good habit. So, not suppress hatred. But to cultivate love - even toward enemies.

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 21:22 | Report Abuse

Globally, millions of ppl gather to protest against ethnic cleansing in Gaza. Thousands locally. But would they dare to march on - into the area to save the victims? Or just doing lip service only

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 21:23 | Report Abuse

That's why I said we our world needs a real holy spirit leader to deal with this complex problem. Emotions is too difficult to deal since it hides into our mind subconscious. It can be triggered easily by smart-ass naughty politicians.

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 21:32 | Report Abuse

You can said most of the people there gullible because their hatred emotional can be triggered easily.

treasurehunt

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Posted by treasurehunt > 2023-10-21 21:37 | Report Abuse

Likewise, our politicians are exploiting this good opportunity to gain popularity from the gullib... Hahaha

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 21:37 | Report Abuse

Quote: "......hides into our mind subconscious. It can be triggered easily by smart-ass naughty politicians."

Excellent point. I like this idea

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2023-10-21 21:39 | Report Abuse

Quote: "...our politicians are exploiting this good opportunity to gain popularity"

More than just popularity. Also hundreds of million $$$$$$$$ of borrowed money - supposedly to pay interest for over RM1.5 trillion debt

qqq47660

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-10-22 11:33 | Report Abuse

The Palestine problem will not be solved by education.
It will be solved by negotiated settlement fair to all or one side gets totally genocided

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