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Has Warren Buffett Nailed Another Market Top? - Sy Harding

Tan KW
Publish date: Tue, 05 Aug 2014, 10:02 AM
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Good.

 

I know. I know. Warren Buffett is not a market-timer, has no idea what the market will be doing this year, or next, or at any specific time in the future. Or so he says, and the media seems to accept it as fact.


So we probably shouldn’t pay attention to what he is doing and saying now.

However, in spite of what he says, Buffett has a remarkable track record of accurately calling the serious market tops and bottoms.

That record began in 1956, when he launched Buffett Partnership Ltd., a limited partnership investment company, similar in make-up to the hedge-funds of today. He managed that fund with major success, with performance that would have turned an investor’s $10,000 in 1957 into $300,000 by 1969.

He then pulled off one of the most exquisite market-timing moves of all time.

After making those huge gains in the 1960’s bull market, and while investors were still piling into the stock market with excitement, Buffett liquidated his partnership fund and returned their significantly elevated assets to his investors, telling them they’d probably be better off in government bonds for the next several years.

And indeed, the horrible 1970’s decade began almost immediately, with the Dow losing 35% in the 1969-70 bear market.

Buffett stayed away from the stock market, in spite of the 1969-1973 bull market lifting the Dow back to its 1969 peak and somewhat higher. He settled for managing the businesses he had acquired control of, including textile mill Berkshire Hathaway (which he soon began expanding into the insurance industry).

And then, with another superb market-timing move, after the Dow had lost 45% of its value in the 1973-74 bear market, Buffett returned to the stock market.

In a famous 1974 interview in Forbe’s magazine, he said, “This is the time to start investing again.” And he did so big-time, using Berkshire Hathaway as the holding company for his investments.

Were those two market moves the end of his market-timing history? Not at all.

Thanks to the powerful 1990’s bull market, by 1999, Berkshire Hathaway had certainly become way too big to be able to liquidate if Buffett became bearish on the market.

But at what turned out to be the top of that spectacular 1990’s bull market, in 1999 Buffett raised Berkshire’s cash level to a huge $48 billion.

He didn’t describe it as market-timing of course, simply saying “I just can’t find anything I want to invest in right now.”

At the same time, in September, 1999, as reported in Fortune magazine, he said, “What I am about to say – assuming it’s correct – will have implications for the long-term results to be realized by American stock-holders. . . . . Over the next 17 years, equities will not perform anything like – anything like – they have performed over the past 17 years. . . If I had to pick a probable annual return it would be 4% after inflation, and if 4% is wrong, I believe the percentage is as likely to be less as more.”

Exquisite market timing?

The market almost immediately rolled over into the severe 2000-2002 bear market and the so-called “lost decade”.

So should we be concerned that, according to the latest SEC filings of Berkshire Hathaway, Buffett has again raised and is sitting on, $49 billion in cash? And in a recent interview said, “Stocks have moved a long way. They were very cheap five years ago. That’s been corrected. . . We’re having a hard time finding things to buy.”

Of course, once again holding $49 billion in cash is not due to ‘market-timing’, but just because he’s not able to find any stocks cheap enough to buy.

And maybe he’s changed his mind from his 1999 prediction about market problems for 17 years. Besides as he says, he’s not a market-timer and never has any idea what the market will do. Yeah.

He has my attention.

Sy is president of StreetSmartReport.com and editor of the free market blog Street Smart Post. Follow him on twitter @streetsmartpost. He was the Timer Digest #1 Gold Timer for 2012 (Gold Timer of the Year), as well as the #2 Long-Term Stock Market Timer.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/sharding/2013/09/20/has-warren-buffett-nailed-another-market-top/ 

 

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calvintaneng

Warren is correct to keep cash. According to Dr. Marc Faber the US Dow Jones & S&P Index are not supported by earnings but by easy money printing.

In Malaysia TTB of ICapBiz already cash out a lot and stayed sideline since year 2009 - so he missed the best part of the bull run.

KLSE is dominated by punters, gamblers and day traders. It is also getting harder to find undervalued shares now.

But the prospect of keeping cash in FD at 3.25% p.a also cannot cover the ravages of inflation at over 6% or more.

The people are now exposed between two difficult choices

2014-08-05 10:15

NOBY

Another consideration is that Berkshire Hathaway has become too large hence the lack of value investments among the large caps. I m sure there is still some value to be found in small caps which are out of bounds for WB due to his fund size but not to the retail investor.

2014-08-05 10:30

calvintaneng

NOBY is correct!

2014-08-05 10:33

stockoperator

Well, If i gain 40% i am always prepared to give back 20% back to the market. That is why it works. Gain more lose less.

2014-08-05 18:01

stockoperator

Well, Bear Bear just come and get me asap and i want to take a Long break.

As you are not coming today, please come tomorrow. Why takes so Long ya?

Let all my stock pick get a fire testing in the furnace.

2014-08-05 19:39

lmenwe

if what ttb said is correct than why mr fong si leng can keep finding undervalue gems from 2009-2013? Don't tell me that his fund is insignificant to TTB. 1 example just look at mkh and MBSB when Mr Fong first recommended them. Even you assigned the lowest valuation on MKH it still worth much more than the market price on that moment! TTB is just an arrogant old man who is too busy investing abroad and never admit his mistake. He keep on boosting himself as the top five fund manager! Just compare himself with Ms Claire Barnes who is the real value investor and perform much better than him!

2014-08-05 20:45

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