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[转贴] 【外汇风暴】- 浅谈HEVEA的【美金】现金以及借贷对公司外汇【盈利/亏损】的影响!! - Harryt30

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Publish date: Tue, 24 May 2016, 02:45 PM
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Monday, May 23, 2016 

 
最近出炉的不少出口股都因为美金走低而蒙受了外汇亏损,当中就有FLBHD, LIIHEN, JCY 以及LCTH等。这个weekend努力研究了FLBHD以及LIIHEN的外汇亏损来源,趁着HEVEA这家出口股还没有出业绩前,我们来看看这个 2016Q1的外汇表现会是如何?
 
首先,我会列出HEVEA以美金结算的现金,债务,Trade receivables and Trade Payable。借此我们可以看到这些资产以及债务对公司外汇的影响。
 
HEVEA在2014年是没有美金Deposit placed with licensed banks的,2015年增加到了8.584 mil。
因为公司的盈利大爆发,所以HEVEA在2015年的美金现金从15.362 mil进步到26.287 mil。
而美金债务从2014年的74.27 mil减低到45.236 mil, 总债务也价绍了接近24 mil。因此公司也从负债股变成了Net cash company。
公司的Trade payable其实很少,只有2.852 mil。所以公司大部分的成本都是来自马币,也就是赚美金还马币的意思。
而Trade Receivables有31.216 mil是以美金结算,2015年收回了不少账目。Trade receivables介绍了9 mil左右。


上图是美金兑换马币在2014年底,2015年底以及2016年3月31日的汇率。2015年马币上涨22.5%,2016年3个月里下跌了9.09%左右。

为了方便大家阅读,我把2015年以及2016年3个月里的美金现金+债务的数据放进了以下两个图表。
在2015年1月1日,公司拥有60.809 mil的USD现金+ Trade Receivables(别人欠公司的钱), 美金借贷高达74.27 mil,美金Trade Payable(欠别人的钱) 只有1.012 mil。

在笔者计算外汇盈利/亏损之前,大家要明白:


  • 当公司拥有大笔美金现金的时候,美元上涨代表转换成马币会增加,所以造 成Forex Translation Gain。反之,如果美金下跌,公司拥有大笔美金资产以及现金,那么就会蒙受Foreign Currency Translation Loss, 最佳例子: FLBHD.
  • 而当公司有大笔美金债务,美金上涨代表unrealized forex losses增加,反之unrealized forex gain增加。
 
在2015年,马币上涨22.5%, 可是HEVEA的美金债务在年头多过现金以及Trade Receivables。因此美金Net欠债是14.473 mil,以22.5%的美金涨幅计算,公司蒙受了3.256 mil的外汇亏损。
 
不过不要忘记笔者使用的数据是2015年年头,所以公司在中间还清了接近29 mil的美金债务。因此Hevea正式的外汇亏损是2.848 mil,差别RM408,000。


来到了2016年,笔者以为美金下跌,HEVEA应该会受益了吧。但是仔细算了之后,发现HEVEA还是【可能】会蒙受外汇亏损。

原因是因为HEVEA赚了很多钱,所以美金现金增加了不少,过后2014年又减少接近29 mil的美金债务。所以2015年12月31,HEVEA的USD现金 多过美金债务。

大家看看上图,美金在1 - 3月下跌了9.09%,扣除了美金借贷以及美金Trade Receivables,HEVEA还多出了17.999 mil美金资产。结果美金今年下跌,所以又再度蒙受外汇亏损。

所以笔者预测HEVEA【可能】会蒙受1.5 mil - 2mil的Forex losses。不过以HEVEA上个季度高达25 mil的盈利,1.5 - 2mil的外汇亏损是可以接受的。假设笔者算错就更好,HEVEA如果有外汇盈利当然是好事,但是看来机率不大。

上个季度HEVEA在美金巅峰的Net Profit是25 mil,这次美金下跌以及少许的外汇亏损。所以几个mil的外汇亏损应该不会把盈利拉低太多。

如果笔者的【估算+预测】是正确的,那么HEVEA也够可怜的。不过美金起获跌都亏钱,但是还好亏不多。共勉之。



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Harryt30

http://harryteo.blogspot.my/2016/05/1263-hevea.html

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moneySIFU

有头咸鱼在那里游泳,吓得所有的人都不敢下场,哈哈

2016-05-24 16:20

sotsot1986

头脑简单的分析,看多会变白痴

2016-05-24 17:00

younginvestor92

问题是你还没算美金对 operating cash flow 的影响。。。

2016-05-24 20:17

citychew_1886

good analysis ! thanks you so much Harryt30 .

2016-05-24 22:44

YiStock

Harryt30,

1) i think there is a typo mistake at last part, it should be 17,999 x 0.0909, not 0.909
2) i feel that your calculation method got some error. Of course, i'm not 100 % sure my method is correct.

When i estimate foreign currency risk, i will NOT use % of currency change to multiply direct with the net exposure. Instead, i use dollar and cents change

Please see below potential forex loss of Hevea due to positive dollar exposure.

RM 17,999 (carrying amount) x RM 0.39 change = RM 7,019 (my answer)

VS

RM 17,999 (carrying amount) x 9.09% change = RM 1,636 ( your answer)

See below:

RM 0.409 / 4.5 = 9.09%
RM 0.818 / 9.0 = 9.09%

both give same 9.09%. but different by 0.818 - 0.409 = 0.409 different x 17,999 = RM 7,361 forex gain or loss shortage/ different.

Therefore, i think is more accurate to use dollar and cents rather than using %.

2016-05-25 00:25

Tom

这染叫harry每天只会猜亏损
我已经准备好钱,准备大量买进hevea-wb。。。。。。

2016-05-25 09:14

Tom

坐等业绩报告出炉

2016-05-25 09:20

Multibagger

Hi Yistock

I would say both method you compared should be the same...just that you have use rm17.999 mil.i believe it shud be translate to usd first using original exchange rare...then only use the usd multiply by 0.39.

2016-05-25 20:08

YiStock

Multibagger, sorry, not sure with what you meant by same as the result is different. And 17,999 is already converted, therefore no need to reconvert to do calculation. I believe is double work.

2016-05-26 10:43

Ezra_Investor

Haha. I don't want to talk too much before the result is out, but if my calculations are correct, I think Harry will get wrong.

2016-05-26 14:08

Multibagger

Hi Yistock

Hope the below example helps

I have USD 1000 three months ago..exchange rate 4.39 . It was RM4390
Today exchange rate 4.00. it is at RM4000. I lost 1000 X RM0.39= RM390

Or using %..exchange fluctuation = 0.39/ 4.39 = 8.88%

My loss = RM4390 X 8.88% = RM390

2016-05-26 20:12

YiStock

Multibagger, your calculation make every sense. Thank you for correcting me.

2016-05-26 21:49

Multibagger

No worries Yistock. In fact, I enjoyed reading your blog and sharing. Keep up the good work!

2016-05-27 06:11

kakasi123

@ezra, according to multibagger, he means harry is correct

2016-05-28 06:37

Ezra_Investor

@kakasi123 - I'm not referring to Multibagger's or YiStock's statement, because I didn't read their comments. I'm referring to Harry's whole article.
如果笔者的【估算+预测】是正确的,那么HEVEA也够可怜的。不过美金起获跌都亏钱,但是还好亏不多。共勉之。
Utter nonsense.
Hevea result is out and proved he is wrong.

2016-05-28 15:00

Harryt30

I am holding Hevea, Last year Forex losses is 2.849 mil when USD going up.
And now USD move down, HEVEA also got 1.161 mil forex losses.
I think my statement is correct.

2016-05-28 23:32

Ezra_Investor

Your figure will most likely get wrong because you're using 2015 AR as benchmark.
They have paid all USD denominated loans in as of March 2016 by settling one (1) year ahead of the original repayment schedule. By doing so, it will affect the interest expense.

2016-05-29 01:06

Ezra_Investor

No offense lah, just being critical only. I've been holding Hevea also.
If you want you can stand by your calculations, while I will stand by mine too.

2016-05-29 01:10

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