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Musk and Zelensky in Twitter showdown over billionaire’s peace plan
NEW YORK, Oct 4 — Billionaire Elon Musk yesterday asked Twitter users to weigh in on a plan to end Russia’s war in Ukraine that drew immediate condemnation from Ukrainians, including President Volodymyr Zelensky, who responded with his own poll.
“Which @elonmusk do you like more?,” Zelensky tweeted, offering two responses: one who supports Ukraine, one who supports Russia.
Musk, the world’s richest person, proposed UN-supervised elections in four occupied regions that Moscow last week moved to annex after what it called referendums. The votes were denounced by Kyiv and Western governments as illegal and coercive.
“Russia leaves if that is will of the people,” Musk wrote.
The Tesla Inc chief executive suggested that Crimea, which Moscow seized in 2014, be formally recognised as Russia, that water supply to Crimea be assured and that Ukraine remain neutral. He asked Twitter users to vote ‘yes’ or ‘no’ on the plan.
“Dear @elonmusk, when someone tries to steal the wheels of your Tesla, it doesn’t make them legal owner of the car or of the wheels. Even though they claim both voted in favour of it. Just saying,” Lithuania’s President Gitanas Nausėda tweeted in response.
Musk, who is also chief executive of SpaceX, followed up his first tweet with another poll: “Let’s try this then: the will of the people who live in the Donbas & Crimea should decide whether they’re part of Russia or Ukraine.”
He said he didn’t care if his proposal was unpopular, arguing that he did care “that millions of people may die needlessly for an essentially identical outcome.”
“Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace,” he posted on Twitter.
In February, when Ukraine’s internet was disrupted following Russia’s invasion, Musk responded to a tweet by a Ukrainian government official seeking help. Musk said SpaceX’s Starlink satellite broadband service was available in Ukraine and that SpaceX was sending more terminals to the country.
Ukraine’s outspoken outgoing ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk, had a blunt reaction to Musk’s peace plan. Melnyk himself faced criticism in July for defending World War Two Ukrainian nationalist leader Stepan Bandera.
“Fuck off is my very diplomatic reply to you @elonmusk,” tweeted Melnyk.
- Reuters
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Agreed totally with Elon Musk.
He said he didn’t care if his proposal was unpopular, arguing that he did care “that millions of people may die needlessly for an essentially identical outcome.”
“Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace,” he posted on Twitter.
2022-10-04 14:57
Yeah best to have referendum for Taiwan and Hong Kong too
They can be new countries
2022-10-04 16:05
Well we all should consistently respect the wishes or Crimeans or Taiwanese. Tak kan Crimea you support referendum tapi tak kasi Taiwan
2022-10-04 16:59
So Qqq, you would support Zahid to become the Putin or Xi of malaysia? With full control of army and police plus the courts and media too
Sure bo
2022-10-04 17:03
War is evil, war destroyed everything that take decade or century to build and million of people will be killed. So never start any war but when war already started how to stop a war?
He said he didn’t care if his proposal was unpopular, arguing that he did care “that millions of people may die needlessly for an essentially identical outcome.”
“Russia has >3 times population of Ukraine, so victory for Ukraine is unlikely in total war. If you care about the people of Ukraine, seek peace,” he posted on Twitter.
2022-10-04 17:31
So you guys telling me China will keep saying peace is best even with foreign troops 200 km away from Beijing? Xi will roll out the red carpets and plead for the negotiation table?
Comical betul
2022-10-04 17:59
Totally agree for referendum on separatist Ukraine province! But to say Russia population is 3 times that of Ukraine and Ukraine will lose this war is incorrect!
You see, ukrainians are highly motivated and war proven dudes! They have been in war for like forever! As for russians, they don't want to be involved in current invasion! That's why you see many russian men running away form Russia right now to avoid been recruited!
During Trump era, Donald tried to bring both Zelensky and Putin to negotiation table! Donald prevented early invasion on Ukraine! Donald tried to tell Germans to be energy independent from Russia!
But you now, EU leaders made fun of Donald and Zelensky thought Donald Trump was a dumbass back then!
Can Ukraine invasion be prevented! Of course it can! Unfortunately, US obligachs want this invasion to happen! US benefited tremendiously!
From supplying old US weapons to Ukraine to provided oil and gas to EU!
2022-10-04 19:05
Anyway, it's strange why Elon Musk issue such statement considering Ukraine are pushing Russia out from separatist provinces at the moment! Why not issue such statement before the invasion!
2022-10-04 19:07
Russia is losing this invasion! War is very expensive hobby! Russia is selling it's oil at 30% discount to India and China! I doubt Russia can afford to continue for long! Russia already lost so many experience soldiers and weapons in Ukraine! Sending civilians now will not make any difference! They will become target practice for ukrainians!
2022-10-04 19:09
Last but not least, remember, we experience 4 years of total peace under Trump administration! The islamic fundamentalists were subdued completely! Fast forward into Biden administration which is barely into it's 2nd year, we are looking at another war in Asia! Yeah, Taiwan will be next and the Democrats are pushing hard for it to happen!
2022-10-04 19:29
Qqq! Trump is a man of peace! He will go into economic war with China not military war!
2022-10-04 19:48
But we won't wait for long! US mid election next month! Democrats will be totaled by then!
2022-10-04 19:49
Huh, it’s Russia le, a near peer of US.
Apasal cannot win a small country like Ukraine lmao
Anyway, Russia already lost the conventional war 2 months ago
Ukraine will just push to the max and consolidate, everytime Russia retreat they leave behind more arms for the Ukrainians to use
It’s like playing the old 2D games, unlock weapons for a new boss level continuously
2022-10-04 21:13
Huh, apa talking you
There isn’t much fighting from the start in West Ukraine, north Ukraine the Russians got kick in the ass fast
The destruction is all going to be in Donbas, every single home flattened
2022-10-04 21:36
Actually most of the destructions are in separatist provinces! So basically Ukraine is intact! Russia lost! Accept it!
2022-10-04 23:39
UpAgain is talking sense! Putin is making major blunder! Destroy provinces that are pro Russia! In the end, killing pro russians!
2022-10-04 23:40
I am big fan of Elon Musk! But there are some things beyond him! Geopolitics is certainly not his expertise!
You see, at this point, Zelensky wants to eliminate all pro russians in separatist provinces! Zelensky is not your good guy! He is as evil as Putin!
Chances of Ukraine liberating separatist province is there! Eliminating civilians who are pro Russia, an opportunity not to be missed!
Guys, this the dark side of war! Either you are with Ukraine or die! Same with Taiwan!
As for us in Asia, let's hope sanity prevail! Because this Taiwan thingy is real! As for taiwanese, either your migrant now or face the painful reality of war! I doubt we can prevent Taiwan invasion!
As for Ukraine, let's not give a damn about it! It's white thingy!
2022-10-05 00:02
Qqq! True! But Taiwan is under CIA operative! So what comes out from Taiwan is actually coming out from CIA mouth really!
2022-10-05 00:41
Well, Putin entered Ukraine thinking that they will be welcomed with flowers and bread. That’s why in the Ukraine counter offensive, you don’t see a long convoy stuck without petrol. The Russians thought they will be given everything by the civilians
Same for Taiwan, Xi thinks they will be welcomed with open arms too
2022-10-05 06:22
China already said as long as you agree that you are Taiwanese and at the same time a Chinese (One China Principle) then no war but if you say you are Taiwanese and also a Yankee or Japanese then War is inevitable.
So do you think which side will have the will to fight to win the heart, mind and body?
2022-10-05 07:05
China is China and Taiwan is Taiwan lo. Both independent countries. What does Taiwan have to do with japan la
2022-10-05 08:43
qqq3,
know what is the definition of civil war?
Did China Civil War between KMT Republic Of China and CCP People's Republic of China over?
2022-10-05 10:54
I think what I want, you think what you want
No need to compel or force down anyone’s thoughts on anybody
We all agree though major war coming so best to adjust longer term investment decisions
2022-10-05 11:41
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