Icon8888 sifu,

You IRR aalysis is also very reasonable
But not so easy to read and understand for those without some knowledge of valuation. luckily I had learnt some DCF from Kcchong earlier if not I can only read the conclusion.

Thank you very much for your generous sharing.

The one who shares is the greatest.

Wo123456,

No one is that stupid to answer such a hypocritical question. You should think more about the business not what the person will do this or do that to cheat us
If not, it is better to put our money under the pillow.



Wo123456 //Dk66 and otb. Can you please confirm that the power project is held in a JV company where Jaks has a minority interest? What happens if the major shareholder decides not to give dividends even if the JV makes money.

Thank you DK66.

DK66,

Very Good!

The latest one already very good
Very easy to read, very easy to understand Very reasonable and very logical
Now I am more confident
I will top up more on Monday

Please do not attack sifu OTB, sifu DK66, sifu Icon8888 and many others. They had indeed worked very hard to provide us the best information they know. We should work equally hard to protect them from the attack of some naysayers.
Thank you.

Good morning my good friend.

I know the limit
My intention is just to make some clarification so that not to be labelled as a trouble maker
I will stop here
Let the bygone be bygone
I am not that stupid to spoil the the uptrend
That will benefit no one including me.
Sorry,
I am very sorry to have cause all these unpleasant moment.

My answer to sifu OTB



Posted by OTB > May 1, 2020 9:30 PM | Report Abuse

If you are my subscriber, you should know that my group still follow me very closely to hold a lot of Jaks shares. Jaks is still my Miss Universe stock in my report. During this market crash in March 2020, we still hold on to Jaks shares even TA showed a sell sign. I do it because I honour my words.


Aseng : I believe. DK66 and you had helped many including me to build the determination and faith to hold the shares until we see the profit from the power plant next year .



Any reader here think that I purposely issue a report to revise down the earning of Jaks for FY2020 to cause the share price of Jaks to go down is totally wrong and I think this person has no brain to think logically.

Aseng : you are wrong , nobody think so,
in fact we are very happy if you could share with us some bad news , especially your revised projected earning which can be very useful to us.
we are unhappy because you did not share your calculation here
you shared with your group only
we are in the same boat , you had already taken so much useful information from here , we did not charge you a single cent. but you refused to share with us your new revised projected earning with us




The share price of Jaks goes up is very beneficial to my group.
If the share price of Jaks goes down, no one in my group will benefit.
I am a businessman, I believe I can count very well and I will not be so stupid to throw away my money into the drain.

Aseng :I agree



I am a very nice person, any request from my subscribers, I will do it for them without fail. I just provide them the report they requested without any bad intention. Please note that we hold a lot of Jaks shares.

Aseng : you are not that nice or good patient as you said . i was once your subscriber , I still remember , when i asked you about BJl and Hisbiscus , you are very reluctant to answer me or do not bother to reply me . may be you are too busy




I believe I am a gentleman in I3, I do not attack any person in I3.
I do not write any bad report on any stock to cause the share price to drop. I never post any sell recommendation on any stock.

Aseng : you can be a better gentleman if you avoid using harsh words on the person you do not like . sometime you are too sensitive or too reactive to a comment which if we read carefully and slowly it is actually not saying anything bad about you .



You can notice that I seldom post any "Not so nice" or bad news on any stock in I3. Most of the time, I only share good news and nice thing only. I prefer good news than bad news in my posting and I always hold back any bad news to myself only.

Aseng : That is not right !, good or bad you should share, there are other sifu around , let's see what others say. it is good for you , good for everybody



My report is a honest report to reflect the fair earning of Jaks for FY2020, I had done it without fear or favour and this report is restricted to my subscribers only since they requested for it.


Aseng : do not forget you had taken a lot of useful information from here to share with your subscribers , your subscribers has no reason to blame you if you share some useful information here . Moreover you should not allow your subscribers to turn you into a selfish person.




Condemn me to cause the share price of Jaks to drop is totally unfair comment in I3. I do not think that I am so powerful and able to control the share price of Jaks. My group also does not have so much money to hold 23 million of Jaks shares.

Aseng : you are too humble. i believe nobody will disagree if i say your group is quite powerful and has significant influence on the price movement

Icon8888,

potential earning

DK66 : 196M
Icon8888 : 200M -300M

Very good

1 thumb for you




Icon8888 https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/icon8888/2020-05-01-story-h150681879...
01/05/2020 1:45 PM

DK66,

easy to understand

a very good estimate

very convincing

Thank You.
1 thumb up for you



DK66 Jaks Resources - The Most Reliable Earnings Guidance for JHDP
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Jaks%20resources/2020-05-01-story-h1...
01/05/2020 4:57 PM

VIN3133,

he will
he had gathered so much useful information here sincerely and honestly here.
I sincerely hope that he will do the same here
bad or good never mind



Posted by VIN3133 > May 1, 2020 5:20 PM | Report Abuse

Thumbs Up & thank you both Icon8888 & DK66 for your timely & great articles in this time of anxiety about Jaks in the last 1-2 days !
Your articles have now increased my confidence !
My decision to dumb dumb hold pretty Ms Jaks is correct .
I hope sifu OTB is reading your articles .

Happy Investing !!

My good friend OTB

WELL DONE!

We are no more young
Money is not that important to us moreover we already have many times more than enough money to live well

If there is any of your subscriber try to turn you into a selfish man, then return the money to him


OTB// Dear firehawk,
I cannot answer all your questions.
I try my best to answer what I know best.
Item 1
The management of Jaks promised me that they will give a briefing on Hai Duong power plant to all analysts in town. I had given them all the analysts concerned. I hope they had done it in last few months.

Item 2.
I was told COD should be around June/July time frame. Hope there is no further delay.
Jaks had a team of engineers in Vietnam to help in this power plant. These engineers are experienced in power plant. No further information is given to me.
I was told this power plant is very modern and has better facilities than Vinh Tan 1 power plant.
I believe the power plant is real because I had seen it myself 2 years ago.

Item 3.
My group had invested heavily on Jaks, I am more worried than anyone here. I could not sleep well when I heard about bad news after my subscribers told me to check on them.
I hope Jaks will not disappoint me until June 2021.
A lot of questions cannot be answered.
I just hope for the best.
Thank you.
30/04/2020 11:11 PM

let's drop the topic
let the bygone be bygone
and move on

good night

bad quarter results for this year is expected

share it here

let us see what DK66 says
let us see what icon8888 says
what other sifu says

if you only care or interested to talk in your own group , then do not talk so much here

if you are honest and sincere to share with us , Aseng never forget to protect you

Stock: [JAKS]: JAKS RESOURCES BHD

Apr 26, 2020 7:03 PM | Report Abuse

说什么谁骗谁呢？
What are you talking about who is cheating who?
都把我们当傻子了？
You think the readers have no brain?
无说八道。
Nonsense!
不要再为难DK66
Please do not attack DK66
他好心分享不应该有这样的回报
His kindness should not be reciprocated with such a cruelty of human kind
句句合情合理错不了
His calculation is logical and reasonable
不如换你来数一数
How about you show us your insightful calculation
问问自己可否能做的到
Can you do it?
要是不能， 別誤導
If you can't, then don't talk nonsense to mislead me.

Stock: [JAKS]: JAKS RESOURCES BHD

Apr 29, 2020 12:09 PM | Report Abuse

brothers and sisters

DK66 had worked so hard to help us to see the value of a good buy

it is hard to meet a sifu in i3 who is willing to share with us so generously without charging us a single cent

we must work equally hard to protect him

DK66,

well done !
加油

one gentle reminder to all the sifu here

if you are not willing to share with us honestly and sincerely , it is better for you not to share here . keep the knowledge to yourself and your own group

Paktua ,

do you see the reason why I am not happy ?

I repeat in the most straightforward language

I did NOT blame OTB for the revised projected earning
I blame him because he did it quietly in his own group without sharing with us in i3 here

if he want to take care of his subscribers , why talk so much here earlier?



paktua73 //paktua very surprise..
why ahseng as good person..
why..why..why..

pjseow,

well done !

good or bad, share it here
we have the brain to read ,
we have the brain to decide
what to do next
what is there so much to scare ?

since the very first day, we had already portrayed ourself as the loyal supporter of DK66 calculation of Jaks potential earning. we are convinced and prepared to keep the shares until we see the income from the power plant next year.
this is the faith many great sifu here had worked very hard to help us to build up

but

my dearest sifu,

if you want to leave , leave like a gentleman ,
follow or not follow we know how to make a decision ourselves
if you want to abandon us , please let us know
we have no reason to blame you
because nobody can tell exactly what is the future

be honest and fair to play the game is what we demand or pursue for
lose some money is just a small matter in shares trading .
it can be forgotten after a few days
the feeling of being cheated or betrayed is a bigger pain which is hard to forget

OTB,

I blame you because you did not share your revised earning in i3 here
if you had done that , then there shouldn't be any fxxking problem today.






pjseow Hi Guys,in another few weeks, the 1st Qtr result will be out.
With the current developments of project delay plus mco,
pls do not be surprised if Public invest downgrade jaks
tgt price .Just be prepared unless you just ignore the write up.
I still hold a few hundred k of Jaks . Knowing public invest do not take into consideration the potential earning of power plant in the last qtr write ups, public invest will.continue to ignore the powerplant future earning.
30/04/2020 8:21 PM

My good friend OTB,

I am glad that finally you had seen the reason why we are unhappy.
Your apology is accepted

Thank you.



OTB Posted by DK66 > Apr 30, 2020 7:13 PM | Report Abuse

I believe OTB has made clear that this is NOT a sell call but a revision of 2020 earnings forecast. His forecast for 2021 remains intact. We should rest this episode.
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Ans :
I feel sorry to all of you if my action had caused any damage to all of you.
It is not my intention to cause the share price of Jaks to go down.
No benefit to my group if the share price of Jaks is going down.
I also want to win big.
Thank you.

My good friend OTB,

You are overreacting

I said I believe.....

Is that has anything to do with fact or data?

Is it justified to call me a liar.

If you are true gentleman you should delete your post. I will also do so with this reply, I do not need an apology from you.
I understand you are very pressured now


OTB Posted by Aseng > Apr 30, 2020 4:23 PM | Report Abuse

by now , I believe OTB and his member must have most probably cleared their position
--------------
You are also another liar here.
No difference from others, talk without facts

Dear OTB,

No man is perfect
Everyman makes mistake
I understand the reason why you did not share you view about the coming quarter result
I also agree it is better to sell some now and may be can buy back at lower price later

But you had forgotten, this is not what you or any sifu here had advised us all the while

Do not make use of your subscribers interest to explain your flip flop trading strategy
Jaks today's would have jumped another 10 cent or more following the bullish market trend if not because of you stupidity
So,
Do you dare to say you have not causes any damage here

Since the first day you appeared here, you had made yourself a die hard supporter of Jaks like Dk66 but what had happened now?
The seat is still not hot, you had already left.


If you were in our position, are you not feeling being abandoned, cheated or manipulated

My good friend, you had really made a wrong decision this time. You owe the readers here an apology.

Thank you.




Posted by DK66 > Apr 30, 2020 12:56 PM | Report Abuse

Dear OTB,

To be fair, there is nothing wrong with revising estimates. Everyone does that including KYY. I also came up with many estimates.

From what I read, it seems that many are angry because you posted in i3 to promote Jaks but didn't post your sell call in i3. Although you are not obligated to do so but many felt betrayed and manipulated.

Anyway, lets bygone be bygone. Move on
30/04/2020 6:15 PM

OP3rs,

don't talk so much , quick quick sell

by now , I believe OTB and his member must have most probably cleared their position

cool......

do not be that emotional


people see you are just scolding somebody you don't know

you don't know me
i don't know you

what for behave so stupid

share fact and data you had learnt from OTB

what is the revised earning ?

you will gain some respect and words of thanks

why waste you energy scolding the air for nothing ?

but make yourself look so low class and stupid

not worth it lah.....

did I scold OTB his wife and his children ?

I am just one of a kind person here

busybody enough to avoid the i3 forum being manipulated unintentionally or with a good reason

dare to point out the mistake he had made

hoping he can gain more respect next time after he had learnt from the lesson.

OP3rs,

your sifu always emphasizes speak with fact and data

where is your fact?

where is your data?

tell me , which of my comments about OTB is wrong

why focus my wife and my children only

that does means you are good

it only tells us ,

you are low class and a despicable person.

This is what you had learnt from OTB courses?

If I were OTB, your money I don't want to earn lah.

no standard at all.



Posted by Op3rs > Apr 30, 2020 3:43 PM | Report Abuse

unker why u come back here? you forgotten how you got bullied in high school isit? your master give you face dy, let you go dy, still wanna come back to me and bark? no wonder they say dogs are loyal :)

becareful ah, your wife maybe go out make babies with other dog, that time you got how much money oso no use, so many kids to bring up

Op3rs scolded my wife and my children
You praise him a gentleman man
Just because he paid you RM1000

Your judgement of right and wrong is that cheap?

How about I pay you RM2000, you help me to scold him . Him alone is enough not his wife and children. We are not that low class like him.





Posted by OTB > Apr 30, 2020 3:05 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Op3rs > Apr 30, 2020 1:52 PM | Report Abuse

To be fair to OTB, he did not make any sell calls in i3, some of his dumb subscribers posted his report out in i3 and started this
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You are very gentleman to speak the truth about me.
Thank you for your good words.

I always remember the below Chinese words.
寧可天下人負我, 休教我負天下人

Aseng,
I have enough of you.
I will not reply you anymore.
Thank you.

I believe Dk66 is an honest
His calculation is most probably right

Jaks is my FD

2 years expiry date till end of 2021 or my exit TP whichever come first

I don't care whether jaks will go up or go down 10 cents or 20 cents today or tomorrow unless I see some reasonable comments that have sufficient evidence to prove DK66 calculation wrong or doubtful.

I believe most of the people here are already heavily invested into jaks. Being a rational player, we hope to see more you talk about the risk now earlier than the benefit which is still subjected to many future uncertainties

Please do not hide anything from us if you are truely and willing to share with us what you know.

Lose some money is small matter and we can easily forget a few days later
Feel being cheated for whatever good reason is life long, not easy to forget.

OTB,

There is no more a secret
Whatever you shared with you subscribers, you enemies also have a copy. They will share with their friends too.

You never asked your subscribers permission to declare Jaks is your ms universe. You already had broken the rules

Honestly speaking you had made a mistake this time, you could have proven yourself a true gentleman, a more trustworthy person if you do not attempt to hide anything behind just because you scare to affect the share price.

Look at price movement today?

Is your fear or worry justified?

In fact, a simple man like Aseng also know well before hand QR can not be good before the power plant starts contributing profit.

If we still need a rocket science professor to tell this, we better go and plant potatoes

You are wrong this time.

Hope you learn from the lesson

truthfulness is more valuable than money

And we already act or work to achieve both.

Thank you.

Op3rs,

You are such an irrational personal
OTB is stupid if he believes what you said unless he enjoys or proud to friend with those who like to scold other people wife and children

See it yourself

His response already told everything

He is too scare to lose money

Why not tell me Harmony is more precious than perfection instead of scolding me, my wife and my children

Is it right to do so?



Op3rs Go keep skin la unker. mouth smell like deep shit, drink longkang water isit, no wonder so many people dont like you. your wife later file divorce with you how? your sons and daughter lost a mom.

OTB

he is forced to be gentleman
he knows you are the powerful man
has some effect on the share price
he is very scare to lose

you still have a lot to read a person





Posted by OTB > Apr 30, 2020 1:56 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by Op3rs > Apr 30, 2020 1:52 PM | Report Abuse

To be fair to OTB, he did not make any sell calls in i3, some of his dumb subscribers posted his report out in i3 and started this
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You are very gentleman to speak the truth about me.
Thank you for your good words.

I always remember the below Chinese words.
寧可天下人負我, 休教我負天下人

I am just a small investor

I am not so worry about the lose or gain

it is just a figure to me

but

if you claim yourself a gentleman , then you should behave like a gentleman

if not, I have happy day

got a good topic to talk

buy or sell the readers has the intelligence to decide

since you are already involved in the game , there is no reason you can't share your revised earning

probability had done so and DK66 had done the risk assessment with no fear .
why can't you?
just for a stupid reason to protect your group profit and your track record and leave us live or dead God know






Posted by OTB > Apr 30, 2020 1:39 PM | Report Abuse

Please use your brain.
If I post my article in I3, the share price of Jaks will be affected.
I do not wish to be the one to get the blame.
I did it quietly for my subscribers only is to avoid the share price of Jaks be affected with negative news.
Please talk with facts.
寧可天下人負我, 休教我負天下人

OTB,

do not forget , you are somebody not nobody
if you are nobody like Aseng , then what you said , what you not said is not important , will not cause any damage to anybody
if you are somebody with a big group of followers then what you said is no more not important , no more has no damaging effect on some newbies who are not your subscribers but who trust you because of your track record
moreover you know very well whatever you shared with your subscribers , your enemies also has a copy

the most pitiful are those who are not your subscribers and also not your enemies, are deserved to be slaughtered just because of some good reasons

DK66,

well said






Posted by DK66 > Apr 30, 2020 12:56 PM | Report Abuse

Dear OTB,

To be fair, there is nothing wrong with revising estimates. Everyone does that including KYY. I also came up with many estimates.

From what I read, it seems that many are angry because you posted in i3 to promote Jaks but didn't post your sell call in i3. Although you are not obligated to do so but many felt betrayed and manipulated.

Anyway, lets bygone be bygone. Move on

when you share you views about JAKS in i3 did you get your subscribers permission
since you had already broken your own rule , why make your sharing of facts and data 2 sets
1 for the public another one for the private
is it wrong to share with us the revised earning of Jaks for FY2020 if you find the situation had changed, since you had already shared with some much about the earning for the year 2021

if you are not stupid , you should know whatever you shared with your subscriber , you enemies will also get a copy



Posted by OTB > Apr 30, 2020 12:46 PM | Report Abuse

Posted by pjseow > Apr 30, 2020 11:49 AM | Report Abuse

More losses are expected from the local property.segments due to MCO and the after effect. He maintained his estimate of rm 240 million in 2021 which the power is expected to be fully operational. Well , he has the duty to revise the 2020 earning estimate and inform.his subscribers when.situation change just like what IBs are doing.
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Dear DK66, Icon8888 and pjseow,
I revised down the earning of Jaks for FY 2020.
I maintain the earning of Jaks for FY 2021.
Anything wrong with my action ?
I did not post my article in I3, is this action also wrong ?
Do I need to report or ask permission from someone here when I revise down the earning of Jaks for FY 2020 ?
When I revised down the earning of Jaks for FY 2020, do I lose my integrity ?
I talk about facts and figures also wrong.
I think the most important thing is to see my projected earning of Jaks for FY 2020 is correct or not. That is the most important thing to judge me.
Please advise me.
Thank you.

you receive a free email from him
but we did not

everybody is talking about fact and data here
why can not be done here but a private email instead ?



Icon8888 stop attacking OTB lah

lets just focus on debating stocks

why privately ?
why not here ?
I am very disappointed



Posted by DK66 > Apr 30, 2020 10:24 AM | Report Abuse

Please do not attack OTB, he did not post the article here. He has a duty to his subscribers.

otherwise we are dumb-dumb hold like Icon8888 and DK66 and believing you are also doing do
but at the back you are selling quietly with your subscribers
why did not share with us you view that it is better to sell now because the next 2 quarters results will not be good ?
since you are already so active ,
I do not think your subscribers will not blame for being fair , responsible and truthful person
moreover you had emphasized so many times you do not need to rely on the meager fee to make you rich
why not behave like a gentleman here and I believe your subscriber can understand
they also do not hope to see their sifu
talk something in the public and do another thing in the private
if this is your principle and the reason to protect your subscriber , we do not need your advice here
whatever you had said here , we have a good reason to believe it is an act of pump and dump
what is so proud with your ROI 170%
do we not have a good reasons to say it is achieved because we believe you never tell lie

Honestly speaking I feel this time OTB is not so right
if your priority is your subscribers , then you should not come here to talk so much
if your priority is TA , then misleading us with your FA long term hold
do not forget you are somebody , not nobody
you buy call or sell call do have some impact on price movement
please be fair to us
do not come here to talk about your FA

It is nothing wrong to buy some now and hold for 2 years while the market price is still cheap and low
Do not forget, market always move ahead of the news
by the time all the super sifu come here to shout loud and clear "BUY...BUY....BUY..."
you will never again see such a sincere , logical and reasonable advice

We invest in ekovest because of Duke highway
Now no government will abolish the toll
EPF and Ekovest want Duke to be listed in Bursa as highway reit to release the value of the asset and reduce the huge borrowing
Duke 3 will be completed by the end of this year 2020.
So it is safe and reasonable to say the exercise will be done latest by year 2022. Of course it can be earlier, then it is a bonus.
We know it is a powerful golden Eagle
This is called insight
But
If you do not have the courage to act on it, then it is zero

The impact of covid-19 on global economy is beyond imagination. A recession after MCO is inevitable. During the recession, which business is least affected?
Which business with a high pofit margin of more than 80% is sustainable?

If you need a rocket science professor to tell you, you better go to plant potatoes
If you can only see the billion borrowing but not the Golden Eagle, then it is better you put your money under your pillow

investment success need insight and courage
Never believe insider news, believe fact and data
When you see people working hard hoping to buy cheap you know the price will not fall
Do not be misled or confused by those who is trying to spread fear here, they hope you will panic sell and they can collect cheap from you

roger3210 //Today add logic \ reason I think he will add Bangladesh put inside him
29/04/2020 5:44 PM

POOR ENGLISH

Pandai !


Posted by GooShen > Apr 29, 2020 3:12 PM | Report Abuse

61 sen, proven I am excellent GooShen!!!! Haters all gone !!!

The impact of covid-19 on global economy is beyond imagination. A recession after MCO is inevitable. During the recession, which business is least affected?
Which business with a high pofit margin of more than 80% is sustainable?

If you need a rocket science professor to tell you, you better go to plant potatoes
If you can only see the billion borrowing but not the Golden Eagle, then it is better you put your money under your pillow