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2021-07-02 13:08 | Report Abuse

Correction for post above : he has privatized MWE (not WCE)…

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2021-07-02 11:47 | Report Abuse

SU is 76 years old and aging. He has a son and 2 daughters who are never in the limelight of the corporate world . He has privatized WCE. He will privatize MPHB as it is just too lucrative for him.
Magnum with political risk on gaming business is not attractive to be privatized , but will be the cash cow to be milked kau-kau for as long as possible.

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2021-06-30 19:10 | Report Abuse

But who will be the buyer ? Only the private plantation group owned by Chinese have the deep pocket to buy . Certain quarters will politicise the sales to non Malay buyers and government will succumb to the pressure. GLCs plantation group are all bed-ridden with huge debts and poor management .

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2021-06-29 15:41 | Report Abuse

Part 3 continues....

I would like to draw parallels between the 2 companies owned by SU in almost the same stake and have many similarities in shareholding structure. Ie MWE and MPHB. The financial comparison is based on MWE’s financial statement nearest to privatisation excercise . In the case of MPHB, it is based on projection after insurance sales.

1. SU who hold about 32.6% offered to privatise MWE by SCR for $1.75 in Mar 2018. Entitled shareholders owned 158.1 mil share and repayment amount to $277mil.

2. No share issued
MWE 233.2 mil
MPHB 715 mil

3. NA per share
MWE.$2.53
MPHB $2.90-3.00 ( as I said earlier based on projection after insurance sales
Note ; NA of MWE included the $256 mil investment in WCE (reported in BS as investment in associate) or $1.10 per share. Coincidentally, WCE price plunged shortly after MWE's privatisation offer made and lost about $0.23 per mwe share . Thus , NA of MWE before SRC closing was around $2.30 only

4.cash + investment securities
MWE $247 mil or $1.06 per share
MPHB $1,430 mil or $2.00! Per share
MPHB has double amount of cash and cash equivalents per share which is very superior.

5. Total financial liability ( payable + borrowing)
Mwe $204 mil , $0.87 per share
MPHB negligible

6. Highest share price traded
MWE around $2.00
MPHB around $2.70

7. SCR offer price over NBV
MWE $1.75/2.53 = 70%
Or. 76 % (1.75/2.30) if we account for mark to market loss in WCE
Note : NA of MWE is poorer quality than MPHB.

MPHB , if based on 70% NBV , SCR price =$2.00. - 2.10
MPHB. If based on 85 % NBV. SCR price is $2.50 -2.60
MPHB , if based on 100% NBV,SCR price is $2.90 - 3.00
MPHB certainly deserve much higher % due to 2/3 of NA in cash and cash equivalent and investment properties are of superior quality and deeply undervalued.

8. Reason for privatisation
MWE: following the disposal of the core and traditional garment/textile unit and the paging or lighting unit (?) , the remaining business of MWE was much smaller scale and prospect of the continuing business was challenging. The bulk of investment in WCE (initial at $1.35 per wce share) gave negative return over prolonged period and requiring heavy capital injection . (After MWE's SCR,. WCE called for heavy RI and MWE fully subscribed its portion. Share price of WCE today is still over 50% below MWE's cost of investment)

MPHB : following the disposal of the insurance unit which is the core business, the rest of the continuing business likewise very very small and challenging and loss making. As the operating environment is challenging for any new investment, privatisation is the best option (in the eye of controlling shareholder).

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2021-06-29 12:02 | Report Abuse

Part 3: Mgt attitude, business appetite and company's direction post insurance sales .
In this part , the material is more judgemental than factual. Readers must exercise own judgement which shall guide you in your investment decision. It is purely my own judgement to share , not intended to lure you into buying this stock.

1. As at 31/12/2020, total Cash+ Investment is $1.92 bil! ($1.39 bil of investment securities classified non-current as they are intended for holding 12 mths or longer as mgt explained). The cash and investment securities excluding those belonging to insurance unit is est $880 mil. Upon completion of the insurance sales, it will swell from $880 mil to $1.43 bil nett of debt or $2 per share !

2. The company which hold >51% of insurance is classified as Financial holding company (FHC). Under the financial services act 2013, FHC is only allowed to engage in financial services business and hence MPHB requires BNM'S approval for venturing into non financial services business. Other restriction include capital adequacy to support the insurance business. Options available to MPHB is to meet BNM's requirements by divesting up to 51% ( hence no more FHC status) and beef up capital in the insurance unit to meet the regulations.

3. Instead, the company chose to divest 100% despite that insurance unit is the core revenue/profit contrbutor . The company is probably reluctant to inject substantially more capital into the insurance business.

4. Since listing in 2013, the only decision the Mgt and BOD did were CASH Monetization of assets giving rise to est $1.43 bil cash ( refer to point 1 ). Part of the cash realized is park in investment securities which are primarily bond, money market fund etc . NO new venture or expansion of existing business at all throughout the last 8 years , I presumed this is due on the restriction in point 2.

5. In all the AGM, when Mgt is asked by shareholders about the business plan and strategy for the valuable landbank, the reply has been consistently about capital preservation and monetization of the landbank/properties at the right price .

6. The existing property development business is JV with BRDB where the company contribute small parcel of land at Rawang and Gombak and in return received 22% GDV. Such business is going at very slow pace and going nowhere. There hospitality business thru flamingo is half death with no decision to upgrade or rejuvenation.

7. Post insurance disposal, is MPHB emerging as property developer ? I don't think so for reasons in point 6 and especially amid the very challenging property market for many years to come.

8. It appear to me that the BOD (of course under instruction from controlling shareholder) has no appetite to take on new business venture or to capitalize existing business. As such , post insurance sales , the company will be lack of core business or under PN17 (?) under the listing rules.

9. Privatisation seem imminent to me and controlling shareholders has all the reasons ( or excuses ) to do it ...

Part 3 to be continued..,,,

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2021-06-28 17:11 | Report Abuse

@Endgame, why do you deleted so many of your posting today ?

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2021-06-28 16:47 | Report Abuse

I started picking up some today....

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2021-06-28 14:33 | Report Abuse

Malaysian stock market in ICU present the excellent opportunity for controlling shareholders to privatise their companies cheaply!!

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2021-06-28 13:02 | Report Abuse

Paying $0.01 when cash per share is $0.60? The Yap fellow is too cunning and ungrateful to the minorities who have suffered huge capital loss for years . Of course he will keep it minimum to keep share price as low as possible for buybacks and eventual cheap privatisation! Ruthless!

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2021-06-28 12:37 | Report Abuse

@Endgame, you cannot even read between the lines what chkhooju means ! You are naive!

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2021-06-28 11:45 | Report Abuse

For Bstead and Bplant, I shall hold on to them until they 'ripen' like I have achieved for quite a few counters this and last year .

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2021-06-28 11:37 | Report Abuse

@TheContrarian, Agreed. I started picking up some and look out for more to come in a depressed Malaysian market. Once I cash out out MMC and IJMPLANT I shall have quite a fair bit to spend .

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2021-06-28 10:18 | Report Abuse

The Malaysian market is so bearish ( because of incapable and hopeless government , nasty politicking, poor handling of covid , etc) ! Even the best fundamental and high earning stocks also drifting lower and lower .... That's the irony !

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2021-06-27 06:14 | Report Abuse

@Thecontrarian, yes, LTAT last minute dropping the privatisation is no good. But we also don't know exactly the reason why they did so. Even without privatisation, I still hold my belief that LTAT and the government will have to restore Bstead in good health . I am in for slightly longer haul than you . Hope you can wish me good luck. Hahaha...

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2021-06-26 21:11 | Report Abuse

@TheContrarian, yes I do sell when they somewhere near my target price or acheiving their potential. I even sell at loss when the fundamentals of the stock turn negative.

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2021-06-26 19:23 | Report Abuse

Unfortunately I have no flair in day to day trading.

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2021-06-26 17:10 | Report Abuse

I add more when price went below 60 sen in the past few months. My average cost is 63 sen . I will only sell in stages when price reach $1.00 to $1.20.

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2021-06-26 16:27 | Report Abuse

In Part 3 , I will share my thoughts on Management Attitude, business appetite and company's direction post MPI Generali disposal.

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2021-06-26 16:24 | Report Abuse

Part 2 continues..,
5. Group A to G are long term investors and their stake hardly changed in the past few years. I prone to think that even most Group H investors are not ready to give up at current price .

6. I am not concerned for the perceived high influence or 'control' SU has (refer point 2). Investors in group C, D,E , although deemed friendly to SU, will look after their own interests first and want a fair deal too in event of privatization.

7. There should be enough dissenting shareholders to block unfair privatization offer .

Lastly, The ultimate shareholders in MPHB may be more complex than what it appear in the annual report due to the politically linked transaction in the company's history in the late 1990 and early 2000.

That's all I can say. Please make your own judgement . Kindly add your thoughts for sharing.

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2021-06-26 11:41 | Report Abuse

Part 2 : shareholdings structure
Below analysis is based on 30 largest shareholders as at 29 March 2021 appears in 2020 Annual Report. I am trying to group the 30 largest shareholders into 7 Groups (A to G) as below;

Group A: SU thru his vehicle Casi and mwe;
Shareholder No 1,4,7 = 261.75 mil share (36.61%)

Group B : The Thai Uppaputthangkuls family
No 6, 19,26 = 31.83 mil share (4.45%)
Very likely this Group is family members of SU.

Group C : Director, senior executive and person/companies holding interest in MPHB, mwe and Magnum.
No 5,8,15,16,18,24,28 =73.98 mil share (10.35%)

Group D : Foreign Nonimee Exempt Account
No 2,3,12,13 =95.85 mil share (13.4%)
These are Anonymous which is usually not willing to disclose they interest due to sensitivity of the information eg public servants, politicians , etc

Group E : Foreign Corporate Shareholders
No 10, 14 = 22.94 mil share (3.21%)

Group F institutional funds
No 17,29,30 = 11.78 mil share (1.65%)

Group G : private individual and corporate
No 9,11,20,21,22,23,25,27 = 48.50 mil share (6.8%)

Group H : minorities not in the top 30 list
Total 168.37 mil share (23.5%)

Analysis :
1. I make assumption on the high end basis , the Friendly Shareholders to SU are Group B,C,D,E = 31.41% The proportion is definitely higher as part of Group H ( non top 30) are also Friendly parties.

2,. SU + Friendly Parties > 68.02% !!! (36.61+ 31.41)

3.Private and independent Shareholders
Group F,G =8.45%
Part of Group H ( non top 30) are private and independent Shareholders too.
This category will increase to about 20% is we assume half of group H are independent.

4. Foreign ownership in this company is very very high :
Group A,B, D, E and part of group F and H too.

Part 2 to be continued..,,,,

Pls correct me if anyone knows my assumption and analysis is inaccurate. You input is very helpful to provide the investing public accurate information for investment decisions.

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2021-06-26 09:28 | Report Abuse

Two directors abuse power and mis appropriate money belonging to the company for personal interest. It is in the media. Such company with dishonest directors is not worth a look .

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2021-06-25 19:02 | Report Abuse

@MuttsInvestor,. We shall have a big celebration if the wish come thru . I think either way is ok for us as we are in both stocks. However, I have higher exposure in Bplant than Bstead.. Who knows they may privatise both together . Cheers!

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2021-06-25 17:54 | Report Abuse

I hope LTAT privatise Bplant instead of Bstead. Just a wish .

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2021-06-25 17:52 | Report Abuse

Serious Privatisation always come like a thief without warning.

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2021-06-25 17:35 | Report Abuse

last Wednesday volume was 1.167 bil share traded , highest reached 77.5 sen
Today's volume is 63.1 mil share traded, highest price reached 76.5 sen. I suspect privitasation is getting real this round. Hope for the best to come.

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2021-06-25 09:01 | Report Abuse

@PSAi3alert, you are probably a financial accountant to rightly point out that the assets and liability of MPI Generali will be sold all together. MPI Generali is a 51% subsidiary of MPHB capital Holdings which in turn 100% owned by MPHB capital Bhd
Per MPHB'S 2020 annual report non controlling interest in MPI Generali was $329mil (ie for 49%) . Therefore, them 51% valued $342 mil is already consolidated in MPHB capital Bhd's group balance sheet (equal to 48 sen per share). The other 49% is reflected in Non- controlling interest in the Balance sheet.
The revised projected NA shall righly be $2.60 - 0.48+0.74= $2.86.
Cashflow for MPHB will improve by $0.74 per share arising from the disposal , not the NA. I apologise for the oversight (and I am still learning!)

Revaluation on property since listing is not evidenced at all. Book value of the properties have not changed since listing apart from some disposal and forced acquisition. Bear in mind that these properties are inherited from the old Multi Purpose Bhd before demerger.

Just to quote a few examples to support my assumption for land value:
5 acres Land at Jalan imbi at $1,000 to $1,100 psf is well below realisable value. In recent years , many land transaction in KL centre were at around $3,000 psf .
12.04 acres at tasik Ampang (flamingo hotel ) value at 25mil total or at $47 psf is well below market value . It had surfaced in the media some 5-6 years ago that Pavilion boss was contemplating the acquisition for about $500 mil for this 12.04 acres + the adjoining 2.71 acres of the commercial complex also owned by MPHB.
1,726 acre of pengarang next to Rapid , a huge and robust petrochemical park , at 78 sen psf is absurd . My friends who are traders in petrochemical product acquired 10 acres land in the same vacinity paid $25 psf without infrastructure 4 years ago. The pengarang lands , 971 acres is freehold and 731 acres lease expiring in year 2910 ( as good as freehold).
Flamingo hotel by the beach , a 289 rooms , 4 star hotel in Penang, with book value at $33 mil. It can easily fetch $150-180 mi if put on the market.

Interestingly , in 2013, MPHB sold a piece of land at balik Pulau, Penang for $226 millions while book value was merely $32 mil. This information is in Bursa disclosure.

Hope all the information I share is helpful to anyone looking at this share, of course with error and omission which is not deliberately done to misled investors.

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2021-06-24 19:09 | Report Abuse

@beluga, Fair enough. You are very clear of what you want to achieve and don't have to be concern of the day to day share price . I also opine that the insurance unit in the Philippines will do well and shall worth quite a bit above the book value if TY decide to spin it off one day . TY knows the value . He was just over confident that he would get thru the SCR at $1.10 which was also high premium to the 50-60 sen price traded before the SCR news surfaced. Happy investing.

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2021-06-24 11:52 | Report Abuse

Part 1 continuation..
(8) of the projected NA of $3.34 (point 7), $1.80 to $2.00 shall be in cash + securities investment (liquid asset).
(9) projected NA does not considered the realisable market value of all properties which are at extremely low book value now .
Potential RNAV of $7 per share is not a fallacy .

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2021-06-24 11:01 | Report Abuse

Part 1 : Valuation
(1). My take for the valuation of the ongoing 51% sales of the insurance unit is about $550 mil .
(2) $550 mil price tag is based on the 100% valuation for MPI of $735 mil established when the 49% was sold to Generali in 2015. The 49% sold in 2015 was for $360mil (based on 2.45x book value as at 31/12/2013) which I presumed is the basis for the remaining 51% = $375 mil,
(3). We have to add MPHB's portion of NPAT retained in MPI Generali (the JV) from 2015 to 2020 amounting to $175 mil.
(4). Hence total price tag is $375 +175 = $550 mil. (2) + (3).
(5) The total cost of investment in the insurance unit (100%)in the book was $47.1 mil . This was reported in the EGM circular in 2015.
The proportionate cost carrying in the book for 51% is 51%x $47.1 mil = $24 mil.
(6) Nett gain after disposal shall be 550-24 = $526 mil or 74 sen per MPHB share.
(7) NA of the company will increase from $2.60 to $3.34 (2.60+0.74). upon completion of the disposal.
……Part 1 to be continued…

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2021-06-24 10:32 | Report Abuse

I promise @chkhooju yesterday to share more insights into this deep value stock. I shall break it into 3 or 4 parts covering valuation, shareholding structure, Management's attitude and Corporate excercise possibilities. I must reiterate again that my objective is purely to disseminate what I know and what I think and to promote healthy exchanges of information for the benefit of minority shareholders.
You are totally responsible for how you will make use of these information.

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2021-06-24 09:23 | Report Abuse

@beluga, it is not necessarily a bad thing to put forward the price if the dissenting minorities can come to consensus so that thing can move forward. Give TY some degree of certainty as he obviously don't want to fail the second time . Should work for a win win solution.

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2021-06-24 09:02 | Report Abuse

In this respect, it's simpler to privatise Bplant first , the asset rich crown Jewel, which Bstead and LTAT collectively own 70 % . There is a lot of value in Bplant that LTAT / Bstead can take advantage of .

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2021-06-24 08:59 | Report Abuse

Bstead own 57.42% of Bplant. Indirect shareholdering of LTAT in Bplant thru Bstead is 34.11% (59.4% x 57.42%). LTAT has 12.1% direct holding in Bplant.
When LTAT takes 100% control of Bstead , its indirect shareholdering in Bplant will increase by whopping 23.32% and trigger MGO for bplant unless waiver is granted by SC. On what reasonable ground can SC grant the waiver without being challenged??

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2021-06-24 08:58 | Report Abuse

Isn't it simpler to privatise Bplant first , the asset rich crown Jewel, which Bstead and LTAT collectively own 70 % . There is a lot of value in Bplant that LTAT / Bstead can take advantage of .

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2021-06-24 08:54 | Report Abuse

Same MGO trigger for other listed subsidiary.

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2021-06-24 08:54 | Report Abuse

Bstead own 57.42% of Bplant. Indirect shareholdering of LTAT in Bplant thru Bstead is 34.11% (59.4% x 57.42%). LTAT has 12.1% direct holding in Bplant.
When LTAT takes 100% control of Bstead , its indirect shareholdering in Bplant will increase by whopping 23.32% and trigger MGO for bplant unless waiver is granted by SC. On what reasonable ground can SC grant the waiver without being challenged??

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2021-06-24 07:01 | Report Abuse

I remember the last sales of 49% to Generali was approved by BNM about 2-3 months after submission. I suspect the authority would not drag it longer this time as Malaysia and the PN government in dire need to shore up FDI and foreign capital inflow (so that PM, FM and Trade Ministers can boost about FDI and foreign investor's confidence) Hahaha..,
Just my view for sharing.

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2021-06-24 06:49 | Report Abuse

The share price has yet to fully price in the insurance sales at this stage. Some investors may still be skeptical about the authority's finally approving the sales.
My view is it will get thru this time . The government is very 'hungry' for arresting the declining FDI especially amid current stressful state of economy of Malaysia. The timing and the whole package jointly put in place by Generali, AXA, Affin.and MPHB are very good.
You can read in the news how proud is our PM highlighting the stake sales of Sunway healthcare to GIC Spore FDI and foreign confidence in our economy.

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2021-06-23 21:04 | Report Abuse

@ctvelu, I have no definite answer to your question. I guess it is PNB's objective to provide a bit more market liquidity to this stock. As you know MNRB is 60% too tightly held by PNB and it's fund units . Hence, the stock has been trading with at low liquidity which is a situation not attractive to investors especially foreign investors.
I certainly don't smell anything fishy .

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2021-06-23 17:36 | Report Abuse

@Xuxu,. Sorry that I mis-read you . From your posts , it gave me the impression that your investment decision is very much guided by TA or Charts. We all know that TA/charts can turn very quickly by manipulator or sharks to misled you especially for rather illiquid and low free float stock like MPHB cap. Whereas, manipulator or sharks can not change the fundamentals of the company. Happy investing..

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2021-06-23 17:24 | Report Abuse

@beluga,. I also think he will make another attempt . Is a matter of price.
Only if you feel comfortable , pls share what will be the base line price to you and to the minorities who rejected the last SCR if another offer shall come within next 6-12 months ?

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2021-06-23 17:16 | Report Abuse

Make more sense to privatise Bplant instead. But still no way at 80 sen.

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2021-06-23 17:10 | Report Abuse

@TheContrarian,. If the offer is 80 sen, very difficult for them to succeed . Don't waste time then.

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2021-06-23 16:08 | Report Abuse

@xuxu, may be you should sell all now and invest in other counter that yourself is absolutely convinced.. Nobody is guaranteeing you profit in this share . Just a friendly comment . No offense please. Hehe

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2021-06-23 15:54 | Report Abuse

@chkhooju, if you buy and hold for at least 6 months it is still value buy. Buy the dips . To trade for overnight profit subject to short term volatility and your timing. This has been my stand all along . By tomorrow, I will be happy to tell you why the value in this stock is indeed very deep.

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2021-06-23 15:44 | Report Abuse

@Contrarian,. if the privatisation for Bstead is for real , I hope the offeror is more serious to offer $1.20 as this price has been forwarded by some corporate shareholders before.

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2021-06-23 13:35 | Report Abuse

Privatising Bplant , follow by monetising some high value freehold lands is a wise move that help to quicken the paring down of group level debts. After the above completed, divest 30% to another efficient plantation group to unlock the plantantion asset values and leverage on expertise of the acquirer to improve plantation's performance.
I think LTAT is more keen to privatise Bplant first . Ultimately, Bstead will benefit a lot too

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2021-06-23 13:32 | Report Abuse

Privatising Bplant , follow by monetising some high value freehold lands is a wise move that help to quicken the paring down of group level debts. After the above completed, divest 30% to another efficient plantation group to unlock the plantantion asset values and leverage on expertise of the acquirer to improve plantation's performance.
I think LTAT is more keen to privatise Bplant first . Ultimately, Bstead will benefit a lot too.

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2021-06-22 21:28 | Report Abuse

@beluga,. I would reject it too if I were shareholder then. Last weekend I read a bit of the past comments posted by the SCR supporting minorities which to my opinion were unreasonable, unfair and uncalled for. They have forgotten that every shareholder has equal rights. I gathered that the dissenting minorities only asked for $1.30 (ie 20 sen more) which was absolutely not too much to ask for !!
At the time of SCR, nett asset of the group was about $536 mil consisting of $257 mil cash (!!) + substantial liquid investment. It was more likely that the company worth more than $536mil because the insurance outfit usually worth more than book value .
Assuming the company worth only $536 mil ( per nett asset).
To pay $1.10 for SCR amounted to $184 mil only ($1.1 x 167.74 mil share)
Balance after SCR for TY was $352 mil ($536 - $184) which work out to be $3.30 per TY's portion of share.
Hence , Minorities : TY distribution ratio was $1.10 : $3.30. Reasonable?? Absurd !
How could TY and SCR supporting minorities fault the dissenting minorities for blocking the SCR !!
Even if TY agreed to $1.30, the asset distribution ratio would be $1.30 to $3.00 favouring TY by huge margin !
I guess minorities have to wake up from being always unfairly exploited by controlling shareholders .

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2021-06-22 20:28 | Report Abuse

Must watch out what IJM is going to do with the Toll road assets including WCE. I believe IJM will monetise it sooner than market anticipate.