superinvestor appeared

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/215747.jsp

why not we all wait for the earnings report next month before buying..

what is the hurry? do we really need to use margin account?

Is the sellers(obviously big players) that dumb?


Posted by probability > May 30, 2019 1:19 PM | Report Abuse X

hi guys...just want to give my 2 cents..

i did say that there is a reason that the earnings will be bad when i exited above 9 earlier even before the fire breakout..

the earnings reported did reaffirm my opinion

and, now it makes me even more convinced that it will take a long time before it can report reasonable earnings...

very sad day

i also..

IWCITY will be taken over by Ekovest at 1.50....

LKH will never give up this dream

LKH has such a diehard attitude....for sure he will never give up his dream of making IWCITY taken over by Ekovest at 1.50

last time there was leno cat who keep screaming CANTEEEEEEEK!!...just like the mad Khatulistiwa in Lionind forum....

but price never move anywhere

hope sslee and raider wont get infected with the same 'paralyzing virus'...causing one to become a broken record

with 5G technology combined with GPS and self driving car.......

- time spent on road due to traffic will be significantly reduced, and
- the drivers will have all the time for their smartphone/cyber world while on the road

appears like something no longer discretionary..but a necessity soon

if we can cover 10% of the area (assuming dry like what you say) its already good enough to cater durian demand and raise palm oil price

walao....too much stories from sifu philip...my processor cannot process

i am looking forward for another yinson discovery from him

advance thanks

then set up more durian cendol stalls lor...make a franchise and market overseas lor!

we can then convert all palm plantation to durian orchard

one can understand the views i had expressed above if you view the arguments in a closed loop economy (a single country where there is no export or import involved) where business exist interdependently within this economy to cater the needs of its citizens.

(you need not confuse by bringing cheap labor or competent workforce from foreign country into the equation)

within a closed loop economy, composite work done by all worforce = composite consumption of all workforce

competitive advantage of a worker (competence) would only make him deserve a salary relatively higher than less competent workers within the same country

the competent work force would enjoy consumption at the magnitude he earns..and thus deserving luxury items ( a bigger house , better car, better brand shoes, clothes and watches relatively)

this relative differential in competence would have at most extreme case be in the ratio of 40% very competent and 60% less competent..

it could never ever stretch to the observed 5% rich and 95% poor workforce to an extent that this 95% poor is unable to afford even the BASIC CONSUMPTION needs (an average house , an average car, education, children etc).....

despite these younger generation are inheriting cumulative workdone by their predecessor citizens

such an extreme stretch of maldistribution (unevenness) in consumption capability (consumption power) within the same country can only be done...caused by:

the bullying capitalist
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ha ha..true true! women are always more powerful

simply because as much as their pay is raised by the business they work for..their consumption cost is raised even higher..so that the business will make more money (from the net difference)....

this tension of stretch is inevitable..in a capitalist economy...but the tension can be relaxed if the capitalist cares...and if the worker demand a better pay..an lesser cost of living..

its a purely a mindset thing that can be cultivated ...if the workers act in unison

the subject we are discussing here (as far as i am concern) its none specific to malaysia or the inequality between races wealth distribution based on their hardwork or competence...

its about the general issue of the 99% poor everywhere..in the world

all their fucking hardwork right from the age of 5 till 26 and till they retire is siphoned by the capitalist (1%)...

their earnings will never catch up with the cost of living which their strive for all their life.....cost of living is a moving target ...and illusion..lured by the capitalist...which they will never attain...

they will never attain financial freedom they imagined they will

business make money B based on the populations basic consumption (cost of living)...

if you dont give them pay A...at the same magnitude level....you as business owner (capitalist) are basically siphoning their hardwork to your own benefit..

raider...we are not talking about donation here...i have no objections for workers to raise their competence level...

i am talking about giving 'pay' (A) fair to the 'cost of living' (B)...

remember B is actually where the business make their money...and its from business is where the A is formed...

A and B magnitude must be balanced...you cannot raise B and squeeze on A...

thats pure enslavery
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think about the maths above deeply...

i know the economics of money flow deeper than you can think

Cant believe Najib is still around....

very easy for him to comeback to power , just divorce rosmah and get a new wife

hope someone can text him this msg! seriously.

Humans have to learn from honey bees...the Queen (capitalist) and worker bees (wage earners)...lives together in a ~ fair society...they share their harvested honey together...independent to who brought more honey...they take care of their eggs, larva and pupa together...they know in which portions to share royal jelly with the queen..

obviously the queen bees knows to appreciate its worker bees..

they seem to know 'the balance'...

unlike human capitalists...that greedy ones ma....if they can get away with enslaving others ...they will....they dont mind squeezing the workers till their last drop of blood for their return on equity ma...

lol!

the capitalist like raider want you sochais to work hard for him ma...lol!

amazing success

wong thean soon is a true entrepreneur...look how young he formed the business

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sifu sifus....what happens to the minority shareholders when its delisted?

do they get anything at the end?

what happens to the shareholder when it is delisted? Do they get anything at the end?

someone please enlighten

aiyo raider...though i dont have the numbers with me...i can tell that the country's gdp per capita ratio to the average (majority population) wage earners's wage...would be having a steep difference...

the argument is more on what can be done to distribute the wealth..

all the natural resources money is going into a few crony pockets

this is not good for malaysia

i think malaysians (majority) will not be able to compete with even bangla..if given fair chance to compete...

dont let the malaysian become slave in their own country in the name of competitive business.. no harm raising wage at the expense on ROE...it does not reduce your competitiveness...as the majority business compete internally within Malaysia

malaysia have all the resources to ensure a wealthy nation...provided managed well and wealth is evenly distributed..

education, skills and competency is something the citizens definitely need to improve...but not at the expense of foreigners getting all the benefit they can get as a citizen

aiyo raider..singapore citizens are like shareholder of the businesses set up there...they dont compete for wages with the foreigners..

they milk them!

olders citizens already have established assets...and their younger generation net worth is being enriched by reducing/maintained population..

may be got friend in the bank...like ahjib 1MDB style

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Bring indians from India...they dont mind getting half the salary of malaysian and work double the hours...they are more knowledgeable and competent too..

Surely malaysian businesses will become more profitable

Business will become competitive also right? Lol!

In general today we have higher standard of living...just look at the luxury cars around and alot of families can afford to go oversea holiday 2 times a year ( Raider time once in 6 yrs usually singapore & thailand use bus loh..! }

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i am not too sure about the above applies to majority & if the measurement of quality of life is purely measured on travel options and car your won....

as i dont really see that current generation can afford to own home and raise 4 childrens...

both drivers (1) & (2) above cannot be enforced....its difficult to come with an enforcement strategy...

but through education and encouragement on appreciation of quality life....this driver (1) can be cultivated naturally

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Once you have the general population having Quality life mindset...the (2) second part from the capitalist will naturally start to form.....

Capitalist will realize they have to share more of their wealth to the wage earners...

distribution of wealth from capitalist to the wage earners does not affect its competitiveness when its done at global level (when all wage earners have the same expectation globally)...its merely a transfer of wealth...i.e sharing...

just for the sake of competitiveness we cannot encourage bangla lifestyle for the malaysians (be staisfied with 2K per month and live in a rented room with a bicycle as transport)...

instead the message is about encouraging all 'bangla' globally to live like 'malaysians'

its about increasing life quality mindset

The are two drivers to this effect:

(1) one from the poor side who naturally reduce the future poor population by having lesser children.....focusing on quality more than quantity

(2) secondly from the rich capitalist side to expect lesser return by distributing a bigger portion of the gross income from investment (capital) to the workforce as wages.....coz if they dont the workforce population would shrink in the long run


"the grass which is healthy only to seed - (case 1 above)...and the tree to sacrifice by reducing its own leaf & branch size to allow more sunlight reaching the grass on the ground - (case 2 above)"

this way you have a healthier population of grass and a smaller sized trees..in coexistence

I think one possible easy solution to this would be restricting the amount childrens the poor could have (1 for poor and perhaps 2 for the medium and 3 or more for the rich ).....as the extreme rich 1% capital (all savings goes to capital) carries no value without the existence of a future massive poor population consumption...


this should have a natural balancing effect on wealth distribution

even if this suggestion is not enforced..i think the massive future poor generation will wake up (become smarter) and agree to this principle/concept..and practice it naturally

Dear sslee, there mere fact that you put effort, interest, curiosity fto think and find out whats happening with humanity...gives me pleasure..knowing someone else is concerned as much as i do

thanks

glad you do 3ii...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/singapore-world-successful-society_b_7934988

"Singapore’s success is due to MPH: Meritocracy, Pragmatism and Honesty"

Kishore Mahbubani

https://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2019/06/05/petron-spending-us100mil-to-upgrade-pd-refinery/

cash keep flowing out for upgrade and maintenance...bila mahu really grow?

wei...415 M outflow of cash just to maintain complying spec Euro 5 ...is not a concern for you guys?

there is something seriously wrong with economics and wealth distribution...

total collective work output of all work forces = total income of all work forces

Total cumulative income ~ = total cumulative consumption + total cumulative assets

99% of the work forces in the the world are working harder and harder than ever before....

meaning the 'work output' is greater per unit capita
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BUT...the Quality of life is no different or in fact worst than our ancestors in village 50 years ago.. who had peace..love..tranquility and so much time for another human...

Now...humans may even need to extend kindergarten age to even 3 year old babies..(or play mozart while baby is in mother's womb to improve IQ)...and work till 70 years old and even have to give support taking care of grand children (else their children will suffer)..

look at the amount of time invested for 'Education' (nothing more than a garbage information to make money..does it improve human characteristics & wisdom?)..the amount of time wasted on the roads (traffic) and the amount of time sacrificed being away from family & friends for money...

despite all the developments & so called progress 99% of humans are having no better life than animals int NatGeo wild....constantly struggling to survive the moment it exits from the mother's womb..

This 1% capitalist has gone overboard...and the 99% will wake up to this truth eventually

he should come with an article how to increase salary of Malaysians first..he he

If the supplier made an unrealistic - over estimate on the demand...
let him suffer...

do not create artificial unsustainable demand

how can the bank come up with such a valuation...when there is no real future demand.

and..oh my... the article coming from the man of highest 'ethics' - moral value in i3 investing community..

two things i find disturbing in this article...

(1) how can a bank simply come with a valuation? say 1M like the author says...on what basis? Simply to lure innocent buyers with hopes?

(2) why chose the muslims populations as the potential innocent 'victims'? Are they considered 'exploitable' community?

he he..thats why i mentioned to keep it short