such low volume and retailers are pushing it down for the benefits of bigger players if they come in later

Read this to understand more:

"Currently, there are no effective vaccines for the prevention of COVID-19. But, few candidates moved into clinical trial.

CanSino Biologicals started Phase 2 clinical trial in China (NCT04341389) for Ad5- nCoV which showed safe, tolerable and immunogenic in phase 1 clinical trial. Moderna Announces Positive Interim Phase 1 Data for mRNA-1273 vaccine. The vaccine elicited virus- neutralizing antibodies at the levels displayed in convalescent sera and showed full protection against viral replication in the lungs in a mouse model. The vaccine candidate mRNA-1273 also showed safe and well tolerated.

Inovio Pharmaceutical developed INO-4800 which is in phase 1 trials showed safe and protective immunity. LV- SMENP- DC from Shenzhen Geno-Immune Medical Institute (phase1) may offer promising vaccines against COVID-19.

University of Oxford developed a vaccine based on Chimpanzee Adenovirus Vector (ChAdOx1) which is immunogenic in mice. The vaccine candidate entered phase I/II (NCT04324606) clinical trial in April 2020 to study its safety, tolerability and immunogenicity in 510 volunteer."


Also read the part about Synthetic Peptide or Epitope Vaccine and its effectiveness.



Source: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7293477/

@
Sneakpeek This is the time to sell hospital beds to Azerbaijan and Armenia.. expand export market
02/10/2020 10:54 AM

Who knows - like I said, maybe big news coming? See the accumulation trend today?

Institutional funds and smartmoney are in. 1.125 next stop

Big news coming? Wow!

Warrant holders can kiss their $$ goodbye

@zhm540 be realistic... high profile government unit IJN will not signed MOU with Bintai if Bintai agreement with Generex is dubious....
01/10/2020 10:49 AM

It is just an MoU. Nothing concrete. Where is the vaccine? If there is a vaccine being developed by Generex, how is it that the stock is still stuck at where it is now? Wouldnt competitors' companies be buying into Generex if they are aware that a possibly effective vaccine is being developed? No investor is that dumb not to invest if they knew something so obvious, especially when in Covid season, not much investment elsewhere is profitable. I say watch first - even at 0.57, the price is too high. It was speculated from 0.31 when news got out and people rushed in to just chase.

I will not reenter until something concrete comes out from Bintai BOD. They must include: 1) stage of the vaccine development 2) any further MoUs leading to its anticipated distribution nationwide and elsewhere, and 3) its coming quarterly report versus share value

Depends on what is your entry. If you entered in early July before the launched eConfirm and prices shot up, then it is still okay. it's still 70% profit.

Read this - This is Generex deal with Chinese companies. Look at the terms of agreement and see if it is similar to what we see with Bintai

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/1516989631792/the-steady-rise-of-generex-biotechnology-corporation-otcmktsgnbt

Good idea, but what if they cant find a vaccine and Bintai exercise its first rights of refusal - they don't even have to apologise to shareholders because investments come with caveats. This is one of them.

@amithaba this is the further prove that thisGNBT does not had the ability to make the effective covid 19 vaccine......a lot of people here comment us to buy this bintai shit caused they had brought the share above rm0.70 else they are bintai worker....so,sell now.

Any vaccine research and development takes time and most of all money. GNBT if it has the technology, big names will likely prop up its stock prices. Imagine you own a drug company and you find that your competitor has capability to produce a drug sorely needed. Wont you just buy as many stocks from the market so that you get your toe, and eventually your feet into it. At least if you don't have the drug, this investment will still give you returns your shareholders will thank you for. But following GNBT's stock movement, this has not happened - otherwise the price wont be sliding so noticeably over the years. We are so far away - likely if they have anything, the scientific community in US would have shown their confidence in the stock price

@
warriorchan Ssm Registered Company:1,300,000 companies
Cost per submission: RM15
Assumption: minimum 1 time submissions for 1 company per yr (correct me if im wrong, im not sure too)
Sales: 1,300,000 x 15 x 1 = 19.5m
PAT: deduct 25% = 14.6m (i havent add up other's income)

Assume PE: 20 (very undervalue for a bright future tech company)

14.6/358 x 20 = 0.815

Less less also RM0.815

Correct. But you need to wait for Appasia quarterly and annual reports to come in. Wait next quarter results and then we can see the confidence around this stock. This is its reasonable current price. If you can find out how much is being held by institutional funds, then you may know whether it is a worthwhile deal from current market price.

@KLLee_0110 As for Bintai is very good news

No vaccine yet. Worse, we don't even know at what stage is the development, or if it is going for trials. This is good news?

This counter will fly to China if the vaccine Generex is building succeeds.. right now, there is nothing, Even Generex shares have been trashed.. if u want to know when to hit this stock, monitor Generex shares. The minute it turns, you can depend on hitting this Bintai with success

0.685 coming

@
jackpot8888 why is calvintaneng keep asking 'sell'? i think we all assess risk to invest and i chose to recover my capital. those wish to try at rm1, let it be. any reasons?

maybe he likes giving advice

Precisely, it needs money and Bintai, if it agrees, will provide for that. But only if vaccine is a success.So far, no news far or near, so how?

MoU again and again. Nothing concrete if it is only glorified promise lah. Only those who don't understand will chase

@
ThousandWishes Both Seagate & WD are in SSD after some acquisitions. Like all other disruptive technologies, in both SSD & electric vehicles mechanical metal parts are vastly reduced. Is there any spindle in static SSD?

No but I don't think JCY is the type to sit on their laurels and wait for the sky to fall. Right now, the bulk of their biz is from enterprise HDD, I think. Which is good for another one or two financial years

@
ThousandWishes Say whatever one wishes to say. The fact is the future of JCY isn't with HDD where margins are razor thin. It's with precision metal casting where currently HDD is the bulk of JCY business. Hopefully its auto business (plus other sectors) would flourish even though with electric vehicles turning into mainstream hopefully soon the number of metal parts would be drastically reduced. Whether one likes it or not, HDD would be history in future like floppy drive. When is the future is everyone's guesses.

Correct, except that they have also investments in SSD parts supply I believe. Right now, although personal device HDD have greatly been impacted, industrial HDD are very much in high demand. Check the earnings and demand for Seagate and Western Digital

There is a difference between investing on facts and gambling on rumours. If facts are presented, it doesn't meant people are spreading negative news. If people are spreading negative news, then dissect it and see if there is any shred of evidence. Investing hard earned money is not done on beliefs and assumptions. It needs concrete evidence of profitability. As a former, I think rather than brush off this and that (except when people rattle off nonsense unrelated to this), why not everyone start digging up facts on this company? And its venture-company, Generex? Two things will at least happen - one, people will not just pump and dump because we are collectively smarter. Two - the owners of the company will dare not fool around and be made accountable for the claims and rumours about the company - who knows, they may engage in better investor relations.

Today ends the cycle of its drop. You should see some upward movement tomorrow, with gains in strength next week to be likely. Immediate target price points are 0.724, 0.775, and 0.85.

@calvintaneng What is Bintai?

Neoh's book, not sure if it is still available, is a good read. Those days, traders dont have software help charts. They do a lot of homework. Read and read and buy. Now, it is easier. To find out anything, just google. In this case, people jump on the bandwagon or any topic to try make a wild guess and some got burn, some singed, and some untouched and made profits. Way I see it, just do the homework. Google down the company, and the subject of interest. If you dont become a good investor and make money, at least you wil be rich with knowledge than can be used in the future. In Bintai's case - just read what Bintai is doing, what it will do and with whom. In this case, Generex. Then read up what is Generex, what it is doing and what is the outcome. Then look for confirmation in people's confidence in what it is doing - ie. reflected in its stock price. If it is on the right track, investors - or venture capitalists - will move in even before you an I hear of rumour. So look for these investors by monitoring the releases and stock price. It will give you more confidence - or not - to put your money where you think will be profitable.

Buying opportunity, boys. Wait at 0.62, perhaps.

There is no vaccine yet. Only claims that what Generex vaccine is composed of and used. It has not proven itself, so why are everyone so caught up about this? If you bought in after the agreement signing between Bintai and Generex, you should also read what the agreement comprises. Buying without research is like throwing money away.

@zhm540 Bintai has the right to produce vaccine under Generex license and has the right to distribute to Malaysia and other countries. So what do you expect government to do? Buy imported product or use locally produce vaccine?
22/09/2020 9:05 AM

Correct. They also have first right not to go through with the deal which is why Bintai is also not dumb enough to circumvent any problems. Way I see it, they know what they are doing and must have done some due diligence first before signing.

@eYuppie With its signing agreement on the vaccine, today its stock price still slightly down by 0.005, cannot understand coz thought that it would shoot up high, why?

Because the vaccine is still being developed. No company in the world has successfully created a safe vaccine to be used worldwide. China leads by preempting need for more safety tests. Astrazaneca halted its human trials because of some unexplained side effects but is now back on track.

As to whether who can distribute Covid vaccine in the country, Duopharma and Pharmaniaga are appointed ones. You need to understand if Bintai is working with Generex for what kind of vaccine for Covid. If Bintai is not confident, would the directors be so dumbassed to have signed this agreement? We are not talking playthings - people talk in forums as if they are on the board of directors and in command of due diligence. As if the board of directors dont know that Pharmaniaga and Duppharma's roles in this latest race for vaccine distribution, and knowing they cant distribute as claimed, still go ahead and sign a binding agreement and be liable to pay millions of dollars. It would look dumbassed wouldnt it?

@lunalight https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/bintai-kinden-be-licensee-covid...

this is the first locally verified story. All else are rumours

@DrJoel88 Furthermore, this is a signed non binding agreement. So yeahh, no guarantees
21/09/2020 12:41 PM

It's a binding agreement according to this which was shared earlier:

https://storage.googleapis.com/wzukusers/user-26831283/documents/155c2d8a463249f59120eeadfe614b8a/PR_Bintai_Generex_Coronavirus%20Vaccine%20Addendum%20Signed.V2.9%2017%2020.pdf

"Through the collaboration, which is for an initial period of five years, the digital platform developer of eConfirm.my would help transform the iconic Yellow Pages Business Directory into a digital business community of e-marketplace."

Does anyone understand what this sentence means? People keep bashing Yellow Pages as being passe, but does anyone understand what Appasia is aiming for, at revenue-sharing basis here? We are talking at the first business directory with a huge database extending 40 years, and till now. Anyone who are in the tech business will surely know that content is king where social media is concerned. But for e-market places, if you are starting out big, wouldn't you also want to work with existing Yellow Pages' business data rather than harvest data on your own?

@
azee https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/tradeviewe/2020-09-14-story-h1513492...

Next week maybe. Not today. No smartmoney looking at it.

Read the charts - volume momentum is still strong. Exchanges in single level prices are not noticeable contributors but it may hit 0.72 again today. Let's watch if it does

@jungleboy - that is correct. This is a monopoly business, the e.confirm. Probably it will also go to regional countries. Any country's company who is in Malaysia doing business here and have used the facility would easily be good referrors for Appasia's product/service back in their own countries. Commonsense

A nice candle forming above the 68.8% Fibo level. If it breaks the 0.70 limit by 4pm, it should clear the next level of 0.76

Excellent momentum powered by some news perhaps. Tested 0.68 twice. Should break it to head for 0.72 again

@
TradeIsLife @Bowman, can you summarize your views for us after you have heard the conference call.
Especially the part on 3:07

Sorry, not my job. When investing, one should do proper research, open both eyes, only then can one invest profitably.

It's just a gamble without research. No announcement of when vaccine is coming, at what stage, and certainly, whether the MOU will turn into a more committed agreement.

You guys should listen to the Investor Call made on August 26 by Generex. Pay attention to that part on 3:07.

https://storage.googleapis.com/wzukusers/user-26831283/documents/cbc061211d924de6965e51546c250b44/Investor_Call_08_26_2020%20(2).mp3

Should breach 72sen in the afternoon.

@
damansaraeagle strong purchasing by some quarters.

Really?

Momentum is building up. You need to wait afternoon to see the rise. Today is Monday, anything can happen.

10 more sen to limit up??

@
lgimm2453 This link has positive news on Generex:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4373034-generex-biotechnologys-covidm...

Here, this is something you need to know about seekingalpha.com

https://www.google.com/search?q=seeking+alpha+website+reviews&oq=seekingalpha+website+&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l4.7874j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

@
Kok Heng Actually i dont care about yellow pages, i love econfirm
09/09/2020 1:06 PM

Now that's a good approach. So what if it's now this level - if you have money, can even top up. Very little has changed. As businesses open, e.confirm will have to be used by the group of banks now clients. More will join in as the MIA will sell it. So, if fundamentals don't change, what is there to panic? Panic for some is opportunity for others. Keep a level head. Then you may survive this. This is nothing yet, not even close to 1997 bloodbath.

70sen.wait there if you still believe in this stock.

If you are in no hurry to part with your money, wait at its July 22 price @ 0.92-0.95. That is the realistic price. So far its profit only up 60+% while are making twice more. That will give you an idea of how to position. One day rise in Europe does not mean summer is here.

Slide will continue. Right now, retailers are eating up each other. Funds are staying away still.

Look at last Friday, this + sign appear. It reads of indecision. People are sensing what was coming. The following Monday, it opened 1.44 and hit a high of 1.48 before dropping to 1.28 and saved to the close of 1.33. Tuesday's performance was almost similar and today, Wednesday, more or less the same. Volume was also not big but it tells of retail players who do not have means to hold to eventually cash out. Tomorrow, more likely it will remain unless the Dow and Nasdaq hits a high again. From what is being seen on US channels, I think very unlikely sentiments will grow suddenly bullish - September is not a good buying month, now made worse by the US-China scuffle. As US nears its elections, more volatility can be expected. At the end of the day, analyse HLT's fundamentals. What is its orderbook and how much investment into future production is it undertaking - and will this future investment (setting up glovelines of its own) prove to be its Archilles Heel, knowing that the gloves business is getting saturated and a production line needs about a year to get running to a max? Do some homework during a time like this - fretting and praying wont help. Panic usually follows lack of knowledge.

As expected it hit a low of 0.82. If Dow is red, you can look at 0.78-0.79. This counter needs another 6 months to prove itself and with the recent KMC problem,odds are piling up against a move upwards