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2013-04-23 14:08 | Report Abuse
This trap is a good beginning. I was trap & lost so many times nobody advise me. You are lucky here. Don't worry the dead cat will bounce back, anyway it is not actually a dead cat but a potential fundamental counter. The only thing is the price action game is a separate issue. Average it if the price drop down & supported. You have a good chance to profit again but you got to wait. What you see now is their game to collect back cheap. So hang on
2013-04-23 12:56 | Report Abuse
I think Fatcat you don't owe anybody here for a living as well as the need to proof anything. The forum is just a common platform to share what we see, think and believe supplimented with facts.
Wake up! There is No Free Lunch, we got to earn it through study, research and experience. We need the right mental discipline to learn and patience to wait. The whole asset & capital is deeply invested in us ourselves, nobody is responsible. Get it right here.
2013-04-23 12:43 | Report Abuse
Yes. 0.20 is the price of rights issue but not yet announced the date. They will play up one more time and support it above 0.20 before the rights issue. Then you all can escape.
2013-04-23 12:39 | Report Abuse
Thank you midastouch. The irony is that we have to lose a lot to really learn to be wise. Pain & Loss is a better teacher to get us to serious wake to the fact. Don't forget the Invisible Hand, nothing is natural in the stock market (buying & selling force can be fake)
The same things I warn Asuprem members 2 days ago, now what happen, will anybody listen just like Fatcat said. Our Ego play us out and the ears are plugged.
My advise: Focus on the price action trail(what) and don't mixed up with fundamental facts reasoning (why). You will see a better picture. Both don't have to tally. That's all I have to said.
2013-04-23 12:22 | Report Abuse
Aunloke, this is an inevitable game in the stock market. Virtually 100%of the counter is repeating it with different pattern (no free lunch). As always the invisible hand will manipulate to their advantage. Skill is require to survive. Buy at the right time & Sell at the right time.
LBS is a good fundamental counter, so buy when they support it at the lowest and hold, sell when they play up again. There is no other way
2013-04-23 12:07 | Report Abuse
Come on iafx no grudges here, ok. Maybe you don't agree with certain things but I am still holding tight to nextnat.
2013-04-23 11:54 | Report Abuse
What Fatcat is trying to tell you is on the 09/04 the price action already reached the peak ( best selling time & take profit) given that they play up from 0.925, an increase of 0.185 sen. Look at the chart before you buy next time.
2013-04-23 11:47 | Report Abuse
derrickinvestor, listen here.
Nothing you can do about it, let it drop and monitor when the price stabilize then buy & average. Hold and Wait. I don't know what price you bought.
2013-04-23 11:42 | Report Abuse
Lucky few here sold at the right time. I still lose money from this counter, a lesson I learn earlier.
Actually can re-enter back when they hit the lowest and stabilize. But you need to hold before they resume back upward.
2013-04-23 11:27 | Report Abuse
The way I see it Asuprem will hit is at 0.195.
No entry please. If you have to buy, buy at 0.195 or below.
Did I not cautious everybody here earlier.
2013-04-23 11:24 | Report Abuse
Fatcat needs to transform to become a magician then he sure can do it,
push back up.
2013-04-23 11:14 | Report Abuse
Probably the price will stabilize at 0.87-0.88(supported) then can go in the average down. Wait for the rebound. It is not a bad stock only they like to play this type of game.
2013-04-23 10:33 | Report Abuse
Nothing happen, just their same bad intention behaviour.
Press down & become dormant for some time.
2013-04-23 10:14 | Report Abuse
Looks like they want to press it down towards 0.80, taking a ride with the market uncertainty & sell sentiment to collect back cheap & cheap.
2013-04-23 09:41 | Report Abuse
They are pressing down the price. Going in, you will be trap
2013-04-22 20:00 | Report Abuse
Circular for rights issue already issued on 26/02/2013
What we see in this few days price action is to prepare for the warrant exercise price. The price reached will reached a limit to adjust for the "ex rights price" and drop.
Obviously they keep supporting it at 0.255 for the last 2 days and the picture is quite clear now. Best to expect maximum at 0.270
2013-04-21 10:26 | Report Abuse
Let the selling subside before going in. See how low they want to hit. Once the low stabilize can go in. From indicator it is a sharp drop, slight rebound momentum.
The market not healthy at the moment, lots of uncertainty issue. So the best way is to wait it over
2013-04-20 12:57 | Report Abuse
I believe the price action will be well supported at 0.88 - 0.92 range.
Another trend will come but you need to be patient & waiting.
LBS is fundamentally intact. As always price action is always game.
2013-04-20 12:03 | Report Abuse
Yeah Zhenghoe I know you mean well. Pinpointing the difference requires skill.
LBS is still worthy, don't just simply listen. Exercise you mind & do some research homework when you intent to invest or trade. After all it is your hard earned money that you are investing.
2013-04-20 00:50 | Report Abuse
Nothing you can do about it Zhenghoe with all the fake buy & sell, not only in Malaysia creating false activities, it is everywhere global unless you get out of the shares market.
Even if you out of the shares market you still have to face all these unseen "price fixer" in every area. The only difference is it is slow motion rather than split second gone with the wind in shares market. Learning not to get caught & reading the situation is an important survival skill.
2013-04-20 00:23 | Report Abuse
My opinion: Development is not a simple issue especially involving a big piece of land. It involve a huge sum of money which is a critical life line for any developer to move forward. I believe LBS disposal to Zhuhai Holding is a wise move after a long delay consideration from the payment term imposed by Zhuhai Holding. LBS gain from the land appreciation from the disposal as well as becoming a Zhuhai stakeholder 18.6% as well as a future development partner.
What Tham Kian Teck point out is correct of all the fundamental & future value of this company. Bear in mind there is no rules stated the company must pay the shareholder dividend from the gain of the land disposal minus all debt. For example INCKEN which should be value at 1.70 (assuming no dividend) after the gain of 300M from the land disposal to UEM but yet the shares price still remain at 0.92.
All this stock counter is only interested to make use of the land disposal gain to play up their shares price (disposing high to retailers) and depress down to collect back cheap profitting big time from the shares market. LBS from 0.90 - 1.14 - 0.92 back to square one.
Virtually everything is already plan up, set up & controlled (reality of the shares market).
That's the reason why fundamental & price action is a separate issue and not necessary match.
2013-04-19 16:51 | Report Abuse
This is a very tricky counter, that's why I forewarn when the buying momentum weaken today. Take profit if you can don't aim for TP with this kind of market. Sorry for bearish message.
2013-04-19 11:54 | Report Abuse
Asuprem is actually preparing the price(0.25 / 0.255) & supporting it for the rights issue announcement 1:1 at 0.20. That's why they almost reached their limit. Once announcement came out the price will drop. I think the announcement is very soon, so be warned.
2013-04-15 19:18 | Report Abuse
I don't think so bro diamond. The market is still uncertain, the bear speaks louder. Those who still hold a long time ago are interested to sell rather than buy. That's the sentiment at the moment till GE13 poll date.
2013-04-15 18:32 | Report Abuse
be steady bro diamond. if you bought cash take profit if they push back up again. i don't think they want it any higher this round.
2013-04-15 17:27 | Report Abuse
diamond you play contra or cash.
2013-04-13 10:43 | Report Abuse
Let it fall back to 0.90 or below then go in. Now they are using the news to dispose higher & press down to collect back, typical behaviour of this counter. There will be another round but you got to wait & hold.
The disposal of the land will partly be used to pare down their debts 300M & they could announce dividend payment. Buy low is key here.
2013-04-12 11:30 | Report Abuse
so far this counter don't play this type of denying game like other highly speculative counter. neither nextnat is a bad stock still with fundamental. by right with media news they should have goreng but still slow & steady. actually they making a strategic move not everybody can understand. if we want to count in all the negative & risky deal must why we leave this counter for good.
2013-04-12 09:39 | Report Abuse
Bro diamond, resistance at 0.115 & market sentiment not favourable. At the moment support level 0.105-0.110. So hang on.
2013-04-10 23:15 | Report Abuse
Above statement is for your sake anelac, see whether you can grasp the meaning behind and become an independent trader. "Why" can be confusing and self psycho, all the while forget the "What" that make things happen, try it.
2013-04-10 22:53 | Report Abuse
Nextnat is nextnat. Amedia is Amedia. Be Objective.
Fundamental is quite subjective, too many why to relate or back . If no bad debt, revenue generating, good value net asset, price below net asset, it is still OK to invest.
If that's the sole reason to sell Nextnat at 0.08 I will be the first to jump in. Yesterday I already said if everything is measured by the book and judged than there is no stock market.
2013-04-10 00:32 | Report Abuse
Learn to focus with one counter, every aspect of it and get it right.
Not just the fundamental facts, the price action and daily volume reflect a lot of changes. Look at it objectively not subjectively. That's the fastest way to learn, nothing more I can say here.
2013-04-09 23:53 | Report Abuse
Not just ACE counter but all the counter, take my words. Nothing ethical in the stock market. The market are not meant to be natural.
You never come across people make tons of money it doesn't mean they are none. It require skills in reading the market, the charts and enter at the right time and the right price.
Nothing is free here, we got to earn it through years of experience and a lot of failure. The game taught me the game.
It is always, Big money was made in the Waiting & my waiting was justify.
2013-04-09 22:55 | Report Abuse
Anelac I believe you like to do TA analysis & volume. Just my 2 sen here, all the TA is good to detect the trend signal. The average daily volume will tell you how the price action can go.
During daily price action the counter don't play by the book. Buying or entry should be the time you see the trend is building up. All counter are are syndicated whether you believe or not. There will always be someone behind each counter to manipulate it.
2013-04-09 21:55 | Report Abuse
Anelac I think you make a mistake withyour statement here.
From 0.14 to 0.18 Nextnat is doing disposal, not accumulation.
They do collect back way below this figure.
Chong Boon Keong this counter is worth to invest. Of course you need to buy low 0.10-0.105. Now already 0.11-0.115. You should ask at the right time not when the counter starts moving and appreciating.
2013-04-08 19:35 | Report Abuse
That's why I said earlier with all my comment. A lot have a negative outlook on this stock. With property development you only increase your net asset value. Now the value has increased to 0.20 (0.1877 existing value)
With private placement 10% recently they are actually acquiring Bangsar South office for 64M issued in shares to Al Batha Group.
This counter will appreciate if you buy now and long term
2013-04-07 11:42 | Report Abuse
Guarantee won't go to hell. Performance is one thing (fundamental), Daily price action is another thing. If you mix this two a lot of things don't tally. Market price action is dynamic and control by the counter.
Enter at the right price & right time you sure make money.
2013-04-07 11:12 | Report Abuse
Just the beginning at the moment. I am holding therefore I don't mind to wait. By the time 950k lots it already move up 5 sen above 0.160
Trend & Momentum take time to build up not one shot 950K lots.
2013-04-07 10:44 | Report Abuse
This stock you need to hold & wait, not for contra. Nextnat is diverting to property. The actual purpose is to have an in house data centre in Cyberjaya & Cyberjaya is coming up strong in development as commercial, IT & residential zone. This is Nextnat long term view at the same time fullfilling their contract with PT Inovisi Indonesian partner. No experience in property doesn't mean you can't find a reputable developer to help out, I don't see anything negative here.
With this development you will see their net asset growing rather than the money being swindle away.
The company is making money and not in bad debt. By the time you see the potential & the media starts highlighting you won't get this price. This is not a badly goreng counter which has no substance behind. Net Asset is around 0.19 per share.
Still a good buy now & hold. Waiting till they push up the price.
2013-04-06 14:03 | Report Abuse
Tuahuat hard to say when. It could be earlier than that.
2013-04-06 11:37 | Report Abuse
bro diamond, nextnat won't suddenly run away, only taking their sweet time.
2013-04-05 21:29 | Report Abuse
That's why I said Nextnat will do it slow & steady. Contra player avoid this counter. Next week will exceed 0.11
2013-04-04 10:57 | Report Abuse
Too early to talk TP Tuahuat. If you have to based on the past uptrend is 0.18. This one should be higher than the past record.
At the moment 1st round is still too early to size up now. We need to wait further for confirming signal.
Wall Street Legend, Jesse Livermore
Big Money is always in the Waiting, so just be patience to counter the inner greedy demon.
2013-04-04 10:31 | Report Abuse
Skyland take profit at the right moment during the hot peak.
You can always buy back lower later.
2013-04-04 10:12 | Report Abuse
Skyland forget about high TP, see how Nextnat break all the resistance first. Long way to go. Momentum & Price Action still not strong yet.
2013-04-04 09:58 | Report Abuse
Everything still within control. Don't disturb first. Today it is possible to move up towards 0.120.
2013-04-04 09:49 | Report Abuse
Don't queue and sell if you play cash. Let it move up first, if not you increase the selling queue pressure above.
2013-04-04 09:37 | Report Abuse
I so use to this counter. You need something stronger so that the uptrend is well supported. If not it will be weaken or delay.
2013-04-04 09:29 | Report Abuse
Momentum building up slowly, slight uptrending.
You need a few more up candle to support the momentum
When price action with volume starts leaving 0.11 you can consider uptrending.
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2013-04-23 14:37 | Report Abuse
What you see now at 0.225 onward is not a rebound. It is a bloodly trap, fast up fast down, don't ever go in.