upside not attractive. I will wait until strike oil. I want it double up. means RM4. this is my min target price.

why sad? as long as you still profit then ok. Different people got different play. For investor, of course will wait until strike oil because that is big profit. For trader, profit not much, but more safe.

after bull, bear come soon. So better ready bullet before too late. maintain those good stock at hand but cash more. May be cash 60% and stock 40%

the best of the best stock!! strong and solid!

ptaras good stock! but not the entry time now. Hope market collapse soon, so that can buy in.

quarter result no good. But price still wont drop. Seems like people buy and hold for the future. Then where I have chance to buy low?

my another favourite stock! I hold some when price 0.79c. Never sell, but buy more when it drop. Hope I have this chance.

last year give 11c dividend. 0.11 / 2.66 * 100 = 4.13% dividend yield + NTA = 2.7 + < PE 8 + ..... Where to find this kind of good stock? buy when it weak!

oh! back to square, can start to collect and wait for second up wave!

another stock for long term. buy and keep lah, I believe its fundamental, not just a penny stock.
27/11/2013 23:04

show back my previous comment. I believe this is a serious company. So collect it in different level. 2 words: "patience" and "dare". If you want buy high and sell high, why not collect the good stock during their weak? i'm not asking to catch falling knife. but collect in different level when see the stock start to stable.

recent upside totally can't attract me to sell my share. I buy is buy future. Why you sell your share that got potential become another petronas?

i'm not advise buy/sell. What I explain here also not based on any news. I just based on common factor and knowledge.

to create today upside, they start plan long time ago. seller and buyer also same.one hand turn to other hand. But still same people. How stock market operate, not the small fish can understand. Shark can easily control the small stock. they control got plan. plan to upside also can plan to downside.

upside limited, but downside can be wide. the later come in one need to buy huge lot so that can reach to their target profit. If yours do that, you will easy fall in trap. The shark will start sell to you. So a lot trend can be: volume not much, but stock price up very fast. this is because the shark already start collect the stock few years ago. When the upside limited, they will start sell for you. sure can easy to throw stock, because a lot people need to buy huge. After few rounds, they start to realize this actually is the end of the story. The time shark say bye bye to you.

stock market is just like a pyramid. People at the bottom quite safe. People at top quite risk. the bottom people will always ask the top people stay there. But what reason convince to continue stay? Hope more people stay at top of you? Can, but need more news. If all the news come out already or factored in, then better you start prepare yourself.

research? no need. Just patience. When market drop like hell. Then you buy in. For good company, you no need research. You just need two most important things but a lot of people dont have: "patience" and "dare". Sure, you will wait until that day.

a lot of good stock: public bank, daiboci, ptaras, digi..... buy them when market drop. Control yourself. you wont regret.

god will chance, year end, fund manager need to show good thing. So earn little or not loss, still got chance to run. but long term with price, i'm not so confident.

what I say here just personal comment only.

Hi Chrollo, I'm not advise you see sell/buy. You need to study yourself.

god will give you the chance, dont worry. Big shark like to play few round and create rebound to trap more people.

depend what price you buy in. If recent price, then sorry lah. find a chance to run. So this stock will be play few round, then only say bye bye.

our market now not cheap. Any news such as QE taping will cause drop like waterfall. If you fry but not run fast, then you will feel the pain soon.

this is the reason, you need to study, not simply buy because got people fry. You treat buy stock as choose wife. Then sure you won't regret.

a lot of people think one night become rich. Unfortunately, this is just a dream. If so simple, who still want to work? So, don't easy attract by the price rise. But think what is the behind. Long term, stock market, really can money, but make sure you hold, buy the correct stock at correct price.

another traditional go up fast, drop also fast scenario. People smart collect low and sell high. But most loss money because they collect high but think can sell higher. Unfortunately, who late who feel pain. how good the stock also cannot collect at historical high price if earning or nta not worth at that price. 1st rule is not earn money, but how to protect your fund. Miss the chance is better than loss the fund.

if all the licenses also can strike oil? How can you imagine?

When tenaga up so much, means this one.... can't imagine.

wah i so "happy" because my monthly money also contribute today up. all big big boss kaya loh.

ok lah, make a joke, so that people can buy history cheap. Not bad.

it should tally with other property stock, you see other stock such as sunway, one year they earn how much? their nta is how much? But now price is how much? So there should be possible a room for it to drop. 3 points: down trend property sector, management change, non-syariah change. For me, i think below 2.5 -2.6, will consider safe entry. Now the market quite high, can't see the real value. sometimes no need so urge to buy in if a stock suddenly drop. because this is falling knife. let it stable a while first.

no need sad, drop is not only this counter, most property counter also except focal. This one drop more to near back the real value only.

say anything good also useless. First, now is the downtrend for property sector. Second, this stock currently is not in fry mode. So, no need talk TA or FA here if you are trader. What we talk now is just for long term only. This is why, i rate as hold.

i suggest yours goto other market like hong kong market (cheap now), more better. our boleh market only for "boleh" people.

focal higher than setia now. my prediction happen today (see my last message). So this is boleh market, dont play play. When you talk FA, TA, all are bullshit. Just depend got people want fry or not only.


die slowly, if smart, should run. buy other like huayang, sunway more worth. otherwise soon focal price will expensive than it.
30/11/2013 10:02

no, should priced in. big drop impossible. But may drop few cents. Sunway is ok for long term. pe and nta, still the best. diverse business into construction and others. dont expect any recent upside. I rate as hold, and buy in different level if drop below 2.5.

your win rate is around 60%! if you goto casino, your max win rate is 45% only, loss means loss everything, not paper loss. If this time oil not found, hibiscus still got a lot of chances behind. So, if you dont want to sell, you just have paper loss only.

2.03 price is not really high. now everybody just sit back and wait for next month. price should stable at this level. Feel like gambling, but is ok. If oil found, price should be double up to 4. If no, you also got time to run, may be just loss 40 - 50c.

not more than 100 lots, but continue buy when drop back to 40c. just buy and keep lah. we can see knm start turn around. But need time. waiting for singapore listing news also.

when 40c or below, then can start buy again. no worry, still got singapore listing news. profit is minimum, but no loss.

die slowly, if smart, should run. buy other like huayang, sunway more worth. otherwise soon focal price will expensive than it.

back to square, collect again!

as reverse investment, you should sell on good news, buy on bad news. Of course lah, make sure it is fundamental.

come come come, when we see all the bad news already, then sure good news in front.

another stock for long term. buy and keep lah, I believe its fundamental, not just a penny stock.

when you see the big company will always split one? only the company that focus on fry more than business, they like to split. So that, anyone can fry.

i just advice for prepare, not all money throw in any hidden gem. now market so high, if the stock still hidden, most possible something wrong behind. If QE tapering announced suddenly, you can collect blue chip already when people sell. If not, you are the one make the sell.

QE tapering soon next year. So no need hidden gem. Just prepare bullet to collect blue chip. that's all.

may be a good trading stock, but not the good investment stock. Good trading stock means you can earn big, you also can lose all. This is violate the actual meaning and spirit of the stock market. But no matter how, still value to buy, if really drop below 30c. But don't expect will drop too much, because need to maintain face mah.

still got profit in difficult time, not bad. I think management will work more hard. of course smart also in next quarter.