stable like other markets

already yo-yo up and down, up and down for 2 hours... let's see if it yo-yo down.

HaliaMaduPeng, if you depend only on your six sense and still win big, I respect you.

may I know where you see your chart?

here is mine:
http://www.google.com/finance

Wei Jie Yau, we are not buying call and put warrants based on six sense you know. We read news, look at other markets including out KLCI. Some of use are looking at chart and using technical indicators to help us make decision. It's not buy and sell based on emotion, is based on technical.

Wei Jie Yau, you better believe seniors like klee and kakisaham. They are in call warrant now.

lk059, both have the same exercise ratio (900), you choose the cheaper one with the closest exercise price

most markets in green. Oil stable.

kayyong, what happens? are you not allow to buy those expiring warrants like HSI-C14 and HSI-HQ?

luckyear, call and put warrants are for short term play, can be a few minutes, a few hours, next day, a few days etc. Usually we do not keep until expiry date.

luckyear

You can simulate and play "what=if" scenario, if you want to know at certain index/price, what the price of warrant at certain date.

https://www.malaysiawarrants.com.my/tools?sp=dwsearch

then select Tools and Charts menu and then click Warrant Calculator

looks like HSI dropping

thanks eagle100!

may I know the links?

Shanghai now up 100 points... better believe HSI 20,000 or up 600 points

Shanghai is now up 3%

Wei Jie Yau, I will not keep any put warrants if I were you and would wait in the afternoon

popcorn, I don't think it is manipulation.

- first the market maker runs out of HQ, so it does not provide Ask Price
- its Bid Price, like you said, is RM0.18
- since there are buyers who want to buy above RM0.18 up to RM0.225, all these prices get higher priority and everything above RM0.18 are listed first

Wei Jie Yau, I am waiting after lunch to see how it goes

popcorn, I think you are right but I am still monitoring

that OPEC are freezing oil output
yesterday very good economic data from the US (manufacturing, construction spending, industrial production, -- all have been better than expected)
oversupply of oil in the US but gasoline demand is also greater

ben_ns, I am at the side line but feel like the trend is still up

1) There are more good news than bad news.
2) Other than China, Hong Kong and Malaysia, there are more up days than down days for most markets the past 7 days.
3) Even there are bad news like the China's PMI data yesterday but HSI was up 700 points anyway.
4) oil is less volatile

Wei Jie Yau, other traders are buying H counters for pull back since HSI already up so much yesterday and today. They may think the major trend is still up but want to take advantage when index over too much.

can not be greedy because the pull back is maybe temporary and be ready to cut without hesitation. Since you are still new, better do not play pull back.

congratulations, klee!

Wei Jie Yau, you should have bought a call warrant yesterday.

Even this morning you still had chance. Early morning, you should check the web site to see what's the price of your warrant if HSI index future is at what level

https://www.malaysiawarrants.com.my/tools?sp=dwsearch

then select Tools and Charts menu and then click Warrant Calculator

I see C14 around RM0.27 if index future at 19700

at market open, C14 was at RM0.245

at 9am, go to
http://etnet.com.hk/www/eng/futures/index.php

saw future at over 300, almost 19650++

so C14 should be around RM0.265 or RM0.27

at that time C14 was selling at RM0.25-0.26, to some people, it might be still attractive.

now maybe too late...

you can check the HSI future here

http://etnet.com.hk/www/eng/futures/index.php

You can simulate and play "what=if" scenario, if you want to know at certain index/price, what the price of warrant at certain date.

https://www.malaysiawarrants.com.my/tools?sp=dwsearch

then select Tools and Charts menu and then click Warrant Calculator

please note that HSI put warrants tracks the HSI future (19317 at 4:13pm yesterday), and not the actual HSI (ended 19,407)

Since the market maker is not available before 9:15am and after 4:13pm, the price offered by other players maybe too low or too high or reasonable.

May I know the sifus out there... what are the technical indicators that you use to predict if the trend of HSI is going to continue or reverse? Do you see it in the candlestick chart or chart patterns?

The reason I ask is because HSI touched 19300 at about 2:32pm yesterday and it pulled back to 19260. At that time I wonder if 19300 was the top and I wished I knew a reliable indicator that I could rely on. I know I must trade mechanically and have to fight the emotion.

Wei Jie Yau, Crude oil is important but it is not a big concern unless it is a big gain/drop.

ben_ns, we may have to change our view especially short term view based on the recent events. Take our KLCI. After it reached 1680 points the other day, suddenly it was bearish for 3 or 4 days in a row, losers outnumbered gainers and it looked like buyers were at the sidelines. Even brent oil at U$35 could not move our index at all and I thought the bull already left us. Today I saw the index was quite firm and gainers outnumbered losers at the end. Now I think the bullish trend will continue. Often time I may have to change my view in the morning before market open after looking at the news and data.

some of the seniors have been trading stocks for so long that they can smell the wind change. They are very experienced. They play both call or put warrants according to the trend.

If I am not mistaken, Kaki_sailang predicts bull run for Hang Seng Index and suggests call warrant

Wei Jie Yau, since you are new, you better follow kaki_sailang next time.

what good reasons you have? based on what?

Wei Jie Yau, kaki_sailang advised us to sell HQ at about 2:40pm. You still stubborn to buy HQ or HT?

those who do not have a call warrant, maybe it is not too late to buy when market re-opens. See the price first.

Stingray, do you mean bull run for Hong Kong or Malaysia market? or both?

the next question is... should we keep call warrants for tomorrow?

Shanghai market is still climbing...

nobody can predict something like this...

Shanghai market is really crazy...

region, is it because you see China turns to red?

I think Bursa start charging everyone for 5-deep information. I am afraid everyone will be charged, not only CIMB

jake81,

the market making hours for HSI-HQ are the following:
HSI 9:15am - 12:29pm, 2:30pm-4:13pm

before 9:15am and after 4:13pm, we trade with each other

Macquarie run out of stock again so they are only buyer at this point. Nothing to worry about Macquarie not offering Ask Price

another write-up

(RICHE HO) MClean - Transformation and Reborn with Profit Guarantee
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/rhinvest/92141.jsp

just take a quick look. Can someone explain what "Excess of Net Fair Value Over Acquisition Cost" is about? Does it have to do with the conversion of 5 mil. warrant B?

tonylim, thanks for highlighting the issue. Really appreciate it! Will take a closer look at the financial report.

penny stock, turnaround story. Definitely worth the time to follow up the development of this company to see if there is a chance to hit it big.

today is supposed to be a very green day considering what happens to oul and DOW, but we see losers outnumber gainers!

it seems like retailers and local institutions are very scared. Don't know why the local funds are also very kiasi. Only the foreign funds have been net buyers these few weeks.

I forgot to ask... region, can in APFT ah?