LK036, Hai-O, Panamy is growth stocks.............good dividend and stable price.

LK036, you basically need to monitor that particular stocks you intend to play for some period of time before moving in..............no need to be in uptrend.........some stocks just trade within a tight band of 0.005 to 0.015 sen on daily basis........Vivo is one of them.

That is my own benchmark of profit per day, so my aims is making few k a month by just trading in stocks....................no need to be bounded to desk jobs 8 hours a day.

On other day or time, i can freelance on other things.

LK036, spread is the movement of the price by seller and buyers.........so my own benchmark is 0.005 to 0.01 sen............meaning i bought 1000 lots at eg. 0.305 then sell at 0.31 or 0.315 to made 440 to 750 ringgit per trade.

My daytrade commision is only 0.10% and 0.38% on normal trade.

Timeee, the current big holder is Golden Oasis S/B around 24.4%, Anne Kung 5.3%, Ang Li Hann 11.02% this figure as at 28 January.............there might be change now........ so the total free float is between 60%+-

My holding now only in Vivo Mother at 0.3625sen and warrant B at 0.20sen...........no averaging down.

those think that the stocks can goes down to 0.28/0.25/0.20 please give to the buyers.................i wanna see how much stocks you have that can made that happen............and wanna know whose willing to do that?..

Even PP holders are not making that moves right up to this moment.

bursadummystock, another way to play a down trend stocks and if you're holding the stock in hand is sell down and buy back.....................but this need guts as you are taking risks but no guarantee will made profit. If the stocks suddenly goes up, you need to cover your position back and you registered double whammy losses.

No one is sure whether it will go down some more.............only chartist can advise you but i don't think there is someone so accurate and guarantee you that..........

maybe Fahmi/Stutu can advice you.

stutu, just wanna ask you a question.....................even the stock down to 285 sen...............and the next QR gonna be out in July/Aug'16..........do you think by then it will goes back to 36sen or beyond?...........

QR 1 = 19.8 mil, QR 2 = assuming same 19.8 mil......and if you annualize it then the total earnings is 79.2 mil. Total shares is 2,475,000,000, so the EPS is 0.032 sen.

Based the the previous high 0.37 sen / 0.032 sen = 11.56 times, do you think this PER is reasonable?.....................so those bought at 0.37sen whether is overprice?

Be truth.

Dell888, you're right.............VIVO only PDP (project delivery partner)..............not JV Partner......................the stocks is now under retail participation becos it is an ACE stocks..................so volatility is there and the free float is high at 52% shares floating in the market.

stutu, you can ask them to sell..................this only applied to those on contra.................if they're keen to hold for long term...........they won't reply you or they will oppose your calls.

So no need to blame anyone.................everyone have their investment strategy based on their preference.................you and me cannot influence them to part with their monies.

I do not like to have wars................just i tell out what is from my opinion.

stutu, please do not blame anyone............becos investment is subjective to individual risk tolerance and hence no ones is right or wrong.

The stocks down doesn't mean i am wrong..........when it is up it doesn't mean i am right..........at the beginning this stocks is for those can keep it for long term.........i do emphasize this stocks for long term that you need to keep for next 2-3 QR.

Everyone here known this..................i never ever cheated them to buy at high price........so please get your facts right.

This stock for long term.

stutu, TP are forecast by analyst and those investment firm, i do not said high target...........but i foresee 0.40sen for the 1st QR and beyond until 2016.

stutu, 0.25sen you can dream becos those PP subscribers at 0.264 sen even at 0.37 sen have not even disposed the stocks. Bursa not been informed of any filing of disposal by substantial shareholders to date.

Don't said something to scare the people here.

stutu, i think we don't need Fahmi to tell us it will down..............becos force selling today for those 37sen holders...........afterall those bought during the past 4 days already getting the stocks lower than 36 sen......hence they are more likely taken up the stocks for holding unless they're are speculators trying to capitalise on the opportunity but found out the hard ways becos the stocks keep going down.......this is to flush out weak holders.

stutu, please don't be greedy. Taking loan to invest is the stupid things to do.............as a sound minded person i won't do that............you don't have to teach me that or reminds me.

We are talking making few k a month equivalent to your monthly salary but minus the 8 hours boring office jobs.

francishuat, it is individual preference on how much is enough.............for me RM100,000 capital is good starts...........you can aim those counters that have good spread on regular basis as your investment...............and each time goes in 1000 lots (100 shares)...................with 0.005 sen or 1 sen spread, you made 400.00 to 700.00 per trade. Anything more than 1 sen is extra bonus.

If you can trade 20 days a month or lesser and you made the mentioned amount, it is good return............no need to work for 8 hours a day job.

Just be discipline and don't greedy.

stutu, please use your common sense, those listed and keep dropping have a reasons...........their operations running losses and of course will keep dropping.........don't tell me thee stocks keep going up.

Every stocks will up and falls and you can plays on the spread like i do..........you can made profit and you can really go full time on this provided you have enough funds to do that.............the problem for me i don't have that enough funds to go full time on this...............hence i plays just based on my limited available funds i have.

Until one day i have enough funds, i will trade full time..............0.75k to 1.5k per day is attainable if you plays on those stocks that you familiar.

remember the stocks raised from one level to another level with resistance and selling, then it went up again and consolidated with selling.........and this is the 3rd time is facing the same trends...............remember it hit highest 0.285sen and goes back down to 0.245sen with resistance for some period of time..........at that point tokokk and other came in and attacks..........then the stocks breach the 30 sen but resistance comes in again at 0.34sen...........and so forth.

so history is there for you guys to see and ponders...........why the panic?..........you think for a moment and re-strategies your next moves.

stutu, the highest is 0.37sen.................you're completely a nuts.

My cost 0.3625 and warrant B 0.20..........why should i sell when i have take up the stocks..................keep for next QR.

Sorry for those on contra.

yes Fahmi do trade, but just trade talks not stocks

Mohd Fahmi the great master of selling.................always call Sell........how to sell when you don't even Buy at the first place..............crazy.

Hevea, Evergreen, PohHuat, SYF Resources.....

which counters to sell.....Mohd Fahmi?.........

ciritbirit = lausaichooi.....................thanks for labelling me syndicate.........what a big bestow award.................me just a ordinary wage earner and with my write-up that can influence so much people here show that i am really somebody.........hahaha.

You look upon me with high regards....................i think i wanna apply to be an investment analyst or syndicate runner.

good day to all and hope tomorrow will be great fro VIVO........

those contrarian and speculators really get burned this time...........hope to deters them from coming back when the stocks starts to ascend to the previous TP0.40 sen.

belle3366, you can accumulate to average down but try tomorrow since is T4.

Myview, my pleasure.

okay too tired talking here..........gonna take my brain off the screen.........i am now wish to inform i am still holding the last position of mother and warrant B and just settle the payment around 3pm just now.

But today and tomorrow T4 is for those bought at the highest and they will cut losses if no fund to take up.

AAX also on profit taking after so many days on uptrend..........it is norm.

But monitor the progress of the company and CRCC closely and filing to Bursa for substantial shareholders disposing.

That's why i told you guys that long on the stocks to keep yourself out from the monitor so that no ones here clouded your decision and stands.

even no filing for selling by PP investors or Creador funds.

Darth, i do not have the data and from filing to Bursa, nothing seems to pointed to foreigners holding the stocks.......but could be on their radar.

they're net seller for this past weeks..........only retailer and institutional investors supporting the market.

tokok888 could have the one selling on T4 hoping to contra but get caught by Gtronic at 3.80 level.........that's why he so frustrated and come here to vents it out.

No ones will curse us since ppl are buying for long.............how many times need to tell you. Support the shares for what?..................i am nobody in the markets..........if i can support the stock price i won't be here talking and cursing you.............do you think that you can curse me then?..

I think you have mental disorders...........with all the cursing, asshole, filthy words etc.

Crazy people that can't swallowed disappointment or failure when at the losing end.

if contracts thru CRCC, i have faith CRCC will provide advance payment to VIVO...........no need bank financing except those projects VIVO directly getting from State Govt or private companies.

lausaichooi, name me the firms that VIVO have connection to 1MDB and can't get the financing?...................are you talking about the project in Johor Waterfront.......that one is China CREC and not CRCC.

spots on SY Woon..............want fast contra go Genting......:)

iraways, you're correct more force selling later.......after today tomorrow will be lesser selling........force selling today for those bought mother at the highest points 0.37sen.

tomwah, shernius said projects announcement soon.

shernius seems to be from VIVO insider camp...........seems to know what's on there.....:)))

when you see rebound on the shares price you know the announcement is coming......the company have materials announcement when the stocks is in green or top volumes.........they create hypes and flows..............that is the beauty of VIVO.

Vivo and CRCC doesn't have any dealing with 1MDB.......if not mistaken so doesn't affected them directly........................indirectly maybe.....maybe only if VIVO awarded to subcontractors that have dealing with 1MDB.........but VIVO Management will be vigilant on contracts awarded to subcon and will sure to check on their finance/expertise before doing so.......becos reputation and executions are priority for VIVO.

the operators need to shake out weak holders along the way....that is how they plays the growth stocks......and any particulars stocks.

it can't goes all the way up, then it will falls back the same speed it goes up......XOX, Comcorp

warrant B coming back