If fundamentals be the basis for the price dynamics, how do we contend with the issue of NTA which is only 8 sen. The 30 sen IPO done by "NAUGHTY BOY," M&A securities (another is Cloudpoint Bhd) is already a handicap of about 3,5 X NTA., which is considerably higher than the industry average of about 2X. And now at 53.5sen, NTA is about 6.5X. Consider the fact that pegged shares with nominees of IB's have conservative valuations, 2-2.5X based on fundamentals at best, unless you have diamonds or gold as the end game in sight. So what is the basis for the market maker to hold lofty NTA values for a new kid on the block? IMO given 2 weeks time 50 sen and above values are a long goodbye, which might reappear when the company improves its financial in due time.

youarewelcome88
I too am surprised why IT services Co with an appreciation of over 100% struck Joyvest to give it all her own in promoting it like crazy.....

kk7198
I bought at 0.61...either cutloss or average down.

Bro consider it as an impairment, your willingness to take a one time hit, Walk away, from this mess, this Co will always be here until its dying day. Meet it again at some other tine and at some other turf. Lose today, fight again at another time. There are over 3000 Co to scan for other opportunities. The fact that the market maker creates this significant drop is no reason for him to compensate for the shortfall experienced by those buyers.

cicakman
Most ppl buy above 60 cts.
Some managed to run n most ppl stuck n sure a lost if no holding.
Good Luck.

Bro, singgah sebentar sebagai pegawai UNHCR untuk meninjau kes keselematan mangsa disini.. Kena berhati2 bila meninjau sebab ni seperti the killing fields, penuh dengan periuk api. Ok bro, dalam 5 minit lagi, akan meninggalkan lokasi ini, amat cemas keadaan disini. Ok roger, over and out.

cicakman
D3 operator will not take part anymore.
Will leave free to mkt force.
It's up run down run n not down buy up buy.

I think so.

UPA is a different species with a different profile and positioning. It has product and market presence. Only problem, its like a potential cup winner stayer, but lost in the stables of a trainer whose ambition is shadowed in his twilight years.

kk7198
@moonslayer n tommy, can take a look at Leform. The boss was previously from our kg. He wants to goxxxx. cicakman....joyvest is in difficulties now, Day3 breaches 0.60. If breaks 0.55, I will cutloss.

Bro, statistically the number of IT services Co with respect to its life cycle in Bursa against its price dynamics, does not give much justification to support the Co, an already 100% appreciation last week, The opening day was no resistant to the market maker. In his hands, inventory were 30 sen or less (IB). It opened at 70 sen I think. Wouldn't be incorrect to an extent If I may suggest that the market makers average is around 45 sen. Don't bother about the Director;s moratorium. They have a different mindset. They owned the given shares FOC.

KK7198, Bro, stay cautious and exercise prudence and patience in your pursuit of new listings. Prospectors and future potential are work of the promoters, the IB;s, The outcome or performance of a new listed Co is still unpredictable and in unknown territory against what has been touted by the written stories.. The analogy are new horses in their maiden foray of racing under restricted terms class or foreign invaders intending to race in our local shores. Only source of info are turf guides, track-watchers and the racing circle tipsters. The fact is Star prince and He's Dawan are rare and happenstance in their occurrence, meaning over in the long run, there are many failures which never made their grade in their maiden journey, only much later did success favored them. However the fact remains; they will be racing in competitions until the end of their racing days. And with more established substantial information supported by recent proven and witnessed track records, that might help reduce the risk exposure for betting purposes. Likewise, the new listings will always be there until the day they get de-listed.
In pursuit or chase is normal, but if done with meticulous risk mitigation, that might save you time and the emotional displeasure. Albeit Bro, We know this axiom, but at times forgetfully overlook: There are no Heroes in the stock market, only Survivors.

KK7198 not easy being a local jockey and earning rides within a sport that is now internationalized, whereby with mediocre record and a stereotype perception of local quality riders, to survive they need to be prudent in managing their profession and prioritizing thrift conservatively.. Jockeys are engaged for a multitude of reasons, be it non ethical at times, but that's the reality of the vicious gaming domain, and instructions have to be adhered to in the name of making a living out of the profession and to mitigate risk and threats.
As for Muhd Az, since winners are hard to come by, this victory must be an exhilarating experience for him. I recall the days of Asuwadi, Wadi and V nathan, Their records were so poor that an adage became fixated on them: "They have forgotten how to win." These jockeys, at best are considered as me- too jockeys competing as "also ran", but best left neglected in any gaming probability estimation of winning a race.
Current day jockeys are no different being challenged by prevailing conditions of the sport. but are however much better off due to the stringent entry requirements of a formal education before permitted tutelage in the riding academy. Current day local jockeys are more sensitive and cautious on matters of life. But admittedly, the dark side of life compelling jockeys to destroy their lives have gotten even stronger.

As a footnote reminder, to those who are still thinking and doubting about gold presence, Bahvest will not make it big only if it focuses on gold. Kretam Iceman was not born yesterday. The primary keyword here is mining licence. Gold is secondary. Metal is the family.

Ok, my dear comrades: KK7198, Cicakman, youarewelcome88, Income and those others that I have corresponded with previously, just to inform all, I will be on hiatus from this thread for the next 5 months perhaps until year end to avail to some other more important commitments. I have just embarked on preparing a couple of project proposals and thus I need the focus to capitalize on the element of time which is usually elusive and frequently fleeting by the moment.
I am not a trader, as I do not have nerves of steel and patience to watch the dynamics of buying and selling and the associated numbers flipping up and down, so it makes no sense for me to stick around on a daily basis, and furthermore I do not make a living from it. That thread by Ilmukhodam was spot on, about those who claim about making it fast, but I have to hand it to you KK7198, you have the balls of steel and humility to admit about those stocks in your inventory. But we both know in the long haul there are no heroes, only survivors. And patience is the virtue.
In my view, Bahvest has overcome the difficult trajectory in its path, the tussle with the Fanged corporate life-blood sucking species, with eventual resolution through litigation. The legalities will not defer or deter the attention of Kretam assassins in their journey to develop and groom Bahvest in its quest of a greater future. Hell, he has his lawyers to attend to all the pertinent legal matters. It’s no hidden secret that most of us here might cash out later with very handsome gains, yet the court cases are still running, due to the normal procedures of litigation. Dracula can sit by the roadside and cry blood, sweat and tears, but as for the due process in the absence of duress on how he willingly stripped himself of the ownership, at most, now he is clutching on to straws only.
Have I abandoned Bahvest? Definitely No! I place Bahvest as an investment, long term. That is the only Metal player that does its own mining. Tell me if there is another in Bursa. None. I am expecting a 10 fold return in 5 years time, which is about 58% compounded interest/per annum. Would you believe that this Mining Co Bahvest has the potential to be a Composite Index counter in about 5 years time.....hahaha, better believe it.
As usual, to me the coming Q result is just noise and the chaos in its daily price movement is also noise. I see only in its future value. Anyway, the defense and goal keeping under the helm of Cicakman is stoically solid, so no worries from Homo erectus invaders.
I will not participate in the threads in the interim, but from time to time I will be a passive reader of comments, just perhaps get in touch with some comrades if time is on my side.
Take care all, and invest safely and wisely.

Income: Visiting your plantation and sleeping like a king.
Yeah, yeah, I will invite the python, cobra, wild boar, and if i see a tiger passing by, I will call "Hey stripes, come in, lets have tea and biscuits together"

Income
Moon,
Visiting your plantation and sleeping like a king.
https://youtube.com/shorts/QnlahaMDz60?feature=share
I really want this after scoring big here.

Bro, I scratch my head until i die also, I cannot own this one. My reservation with all these AI facilitation is problems can only be resolved by the manufacturer. Very exclusive, good for the eyes, but I will settle for a permanent home.

KK7198: .later racing here will be more popular with the closure of Kranji. About 700 race horses will flood over the courses here.
In foresight, this horse migration prospect is sad and furthermore being gelded the future of these local horses, once deleted, is perhaps being a workhorse till they die, Horses are intelligent mammals, and if you look straight into their eyes, they express a certain undecipherable emotion, but you can suspect that they are thinking for the moment. Never look into the eyes of a horse if it is to be euthanized, it can be so emotionally moving that you could be driven to tears. Had witnessed this in those Jalan Ampang stable days.
I think now the disparity between horse racing industry and the gaming activities are in even more contrasting differences. The former is receding due to associated expenses and high maintenance while the betting industry is growing stronger due to inter connectivity facilitating live streamimg and on line gaming.
I wonder what would it be, Singapore without horse racing....? Come on, Singapore, surely you don't want to lose out to Hong Kong on this symbolic recognition.

kk7198
Yeah, tommy...RM8.00 nia
Congratulations, the monkey it is. Perhaps, payout is low, becos bookies last minute were pouring it into the tote boards, just to spread risk from over handling of punters bets. Anyway, Bro, what is important, you registered gains from the winnings. Dividends not in our control.
So next, maybe Raffles cup 1600m, pet distance, or the big one the SG gold cup over 2200m?😎😄

KK7198: Went to a RM2 shop, saw a crystal ball. I asked the owner whether it can predict racing outcomes. He fed the device with the appropriate SD Derby info and the response was this:
a) Joint favorite horse 1 and 2, place dividends, no point paying for such odds.
b) There will be glimpses of horse 7 and 9 at the finish, for minor placings.

😁😁😁 just to wish the punting supporters of the Monkey Lord (GM) all the best: you can queue up and collect your money...

kk7198
@ Income, moonslayer274...slaying people is very song but this time kena slayed 99 by Dracula n his hencemen.By Tuesday,still no news of moon, kena report missing person.

Bro, Every once a month, like in menstruation 😁😁😁, I will drive up and go visit Ulu Kinta Hutan Lipor at Tambun, to see the farm hands harvest the FFB, fresh fruit bunches, palm oil. Despite 2023, still no telecommunication accessibility. At that place, if certain mishaps occurred,like being mauled by a tiger or wild-boar, news will only be released on the recovered carcass, if you know what i mean. 😁
Anyway, you are off to Singapore to watch GM and Bowman in action. You can queue up and collect your money bro, only problem is the short odds dividend on the tote board, being installed favorite.
OK bro, catch up with you later. just got back home last night. Going out for an appointment at 10 am at Subang.
BTW, I read glimpses on Thursday's threads. Nearly the whole gang of BV supporters were slashing and Seattle slewing, you know who. Personally, I think certain statements were taken too far, seems like they want to pummel her to liquid powder, but on the other hand, these also serve as lessons for her not to undermine or touch on matters pertaining individual personal traits. 😁😎
So good luck bro.... Over on the outside its invincible tycoon coming in with giant strides with Super Salute fighting hard on the inside, but hello, here comes Bowman with the Lord of the Monkeys (GM), and they hit the front with 50 m to run.....

Income
Where’s Moon?
Laughing all the way to the bank…

Bro, Malaysia has 2 mental asylum, one of them located in Tanjung Rambutan, the town of which is my birth place. That axiom. laughing to the bank in reality is equated to the actions of a lunatic, and lunatic is associated to the moon from the word Lunar. My activities is centered around Ipoh,, so if I were laughing to the bank, the action of a mad-man, its very fitting for the police to apprehend me, like how they apprehended Dracula, but for me, they put me into a straitjacket, and throw me into Tanjung Rambutan.

So in view of the price being "on heat"recently like an animal yearning to be copulated, am i laughing to the bank? Cannot laugh, but smiled a little. I only sold the warrants, but not the mainstream shares, as the warrants are not meant to be exercised and further more there is an intrinsic price aberration only decided by the market maker, but only for short, weekly (not T2, cos i dont have nerves of steel) trading because usually the % increments are very attractive.
For 2 days I have been away at a place in Perak, no internet coverage ( yeah, yeah 4G, la 5G la, year 2023, still no coverage). And I only come into the forum threads only if I have my PC, Via h/p, too taxing for my eyesight to handle replies on the little key boards.

KK7198: I frequent Ipoh, especially Tambun and Bercham becos most of my current activities is centered there. No problem, anytime b4 leaving for Ipoh, I drop you my number, see if conditions are permissible and convenient for us to meet there. Ipoh is flushed with Starbucks outlets.

kk7198
moon, this is my friend, Ipoh horse trainer, Stephen Cook from New Zealand. He is very nice and friendly. We all call him The Fat Man, really tuapui.

Yes, you have recently introduced this Ipoh based trainer to me in your recent postings.

cicakman
If you want to sail safel to destinations ,need to throw some ppl out of the ships cz market force are big.

Bro, I prefer the bus driver model, with passenger who suka2 push the bell nak berhenti at every bus stop. Finally bus driver fed up and reverse bus (short), passenger got scared, all want to jump down from the bus, which is easier for bus driver to chase them faster in one go.
The ship cruise model is murderous! Pirates of Caribbean only throw out dead bodies or traitors at sea. However dalam banyak kes ia ada justifikasi.

KK7198 The run up to this HK Gold Cup race was the much touted clash of the 3 HK greats, but one withdrew. However, I think it would eventually come down to these 2 at the wire. Between Golden Sixty and Romantic Warrior, the victory for that race distance is more attributed to the nerves due to Jockey-ship. It was quite evident that Romantic warrior tried every bit to shake-off Golden Sixty even before the bend. But customary in races,, the back marker is focused to the wire, while the front runner is distracted by rear-side view sight and and the building anxiety sound of horses in pursuit.

Income
Can I get a napkin? Haha 😂
https://youtube.com/shorts/zWTTOPZies0?feature=share

Bro, passenger lucky, stewardess did not withdraw the tampon she was using.!

Kk7198, Bro no hurry, get the Sat published list will be final with the scratchings. They are running sunday, so no hurry.

Bro rather than you type, just wait for the list to come up within any website and just retrieve the link and upload. Cumbersome , what more i am not putting a wager, just curious to see the challenges.
Super salute, that was history, and the challenge over 1800m between them is unprecedented. Never before.

cicakman
Tomolo morning definetly needs to use Compass and Altimeter before sailing.
Wind speed 85.30 km.
Directions North West.

Woi, You are meeting Dracula Buncit for a deep sea fishing trip and later spending the day up the hill with him? Be careful Buncit now very nervous, he will ask you lots of question about Kalimantan, as he is seeking amnesty, shelter from the sheriffs and bounty hunters of the state. 😁

KK7198: Golden monkey is still retaining the winning form from the Stewards cup over 1600m ran only recently,3 weeks ago. Turning 4, and with those runs previously under his belt, he seems to improve with age. The pattern of his victory in the Stewards cup could prove the extra 200m might be the useful distance required just in case he meets up with lots of traffic and bunching up in the midst of the race, before he gets a clear run and pushes the extra gear into position.. Winning is high probability but podium position, you can queue up and collect your money, confirmed. Unless, by a twist of fate, Bowman is out of commission due to mishaps in the race.
Actually KK7198, since he is in Kranji, If i were owner of GM, I will engage a young proven jockey, local: Clyde Leck. BTW upload the final race card when you are in possession, anxious to know the level of competition. Any from the LIM stable line-up? Lim;s treasure. Lim's Kocuiszko whatever lah, the stable that helped Saimee to enhance his reputation.

cicakman
Corrida de Toros coming soon.

So who are the gladiators or matadors in the bullfight.?

I just checked and found out that the current distance for SG Derby is 1800m. Reckon for Golden Monkey, still within means to run the distance, being a sprinter and mid distance runner. IF 2200m, quite an ordeal.

Youarewelcome88,
😂😂🤣

Wow, congrats to warrant holders. Now can pull a sigh of relieve!

KK7198, SG Derby is 2000 metres. Correct? Defending champion it will be, and with Bowman lending a hand. This event and the defending champion to be reminds me of Valley Fame with Leslie Khoo, swept the Tunku Gold Cup KL 3 years in a row.

cicakman
Selamat Menyambut Awal Muharam to all Muslim.

Same to you.

cicakman
moon ,keep quiet lah bah.🤣

Oh..Oh OK OK 😁😁😁

Cicakman, so besok kena ada lagi satu pilot for baby Bahvest?😁😎

cicakman
Moon ,new interest and bargained 0.29 0.295 cts.
Identified Flying Objects@ IFO

Ok Wow, and Thanks.

cicakman
Bye bye Joyeast 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Bro, I tak ada screen, info sikit what's happening, Like got big excitement saja with bojet coming in.

Betul, I would prefer the market maker to maintain just about 30-35 mil trading volume, rising about 4-5 bids and then consolidate, get rid of the passengers first for few days, up down about 1-2 bids and ready for the next cycle. Any splash volumes with hefty gains will be only be a short time affair, and if that happens than we also have to say sayonara to this counter.

Someone are willing to absorbed the 21.5,22.5,23.5 ,0.24 and 0.26 and cover all the contra days.....
INNO has money and as market makers whichever direction he drives, whether short or long positions, he will make the money most of the time. There are basket ball players in INNO. So the buy and sell positions are well taken care of.

I think by Friday, this 31 sen is achievable. Maybe even Thursday. I get this strong feeling that there is not much disturbance from retail players, who likes to press the bell and ask the bus driver to stop at every bus stop. The movement seems smooth, with less mid- stop passengers.

Cicakman, apahal guess closing price tak boleh lebih dari 30 sen ke?.... I wish it on a star; 31 sen, outsider punya price. 😁😁😁

anisbin
29 sen... Brek rosak wo...😂😂😂
people tell you change your break pads often, you stubborn, now got major problem, cannot stop!😁

BTW, Bahvest must get the job done today, above 30 , becos tomorrow Bursa is closed for a holiday. Awal Muharam.

Do you what group of ppl n buncit doing 🤣🤣🤣at Lahad Datu traffic light?
So tell me the story Cicakman.

Soon Cicakman, you gotta look for another pilot to fly the warrant aircraft. Tower has already approved all the engine design specifications and flight patterns. Looks like the Bahvest stable is slowly growing to invade the top 20 horses on the bursa trading volume charts.

cicakman
I see buncit with orang sungei with his sampan🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Bro, I see him on the sampan holding the pole close to his mouth aka a microphone and under the moonlight, singing, "Somewhere over the Rainbow....Skies are blue.....And the dreams that you dare to dream.........Really do come true. 😅😅😅

Bullballs
I think it is time for me to double down instead of selling.

Bro, i am not here to promote buying and selling, because that i don't do. But with mining licence and first mover advantage in a sub- continent (Sabah, Sarawak, and Kalimantan) virtually unexplored and unexploited, with potential unmined reserves of various required metals for industry, then perhaps you should re-look into the size of Bahvest as compared to the 10th biggest mining players in the world. The Market cap of Bahvest is less than 1% of CMOC Group Ltd. (CMCLF): Bahvest is only at infant stage.

cicakman
Great support at 26.5 cts n never stop.

So the temperature in the WOK good enough to do stir fried chicken. eh....

kk7198
wanna bet on Golden Monkey? Bteak your jinx and you can queue up to collect your money.

OK, so Bowman rides golden monkey. I didn't know they are running the derby this weekend. Sing derby is over 2000 meters. right? Becos if I recall Sing dont run over 2400m. Would be interesting to see the 16 horse field line-up. Bowman will instill favorite in Golden Monkey I guess!...

Bullballs,
I tell you, currently the authorities cannot contain the number of court clusters waiting to be tried. Believe me, there are so many walking as free man roaming about, but anxiety, tension and sleepless nights will catch up to them, b4 their turn to appear in court. Having money for 7 generations is one thing, but knowing that you have to spend a lot of time behind bars, that could be the death knell.

Bullballs
No charges from the police, MACC or SC. Does Korek King belongs to the untouchable?

Bro, remember he was under remand and then brought before the court for hearing after MACC apprehended him and his marauding vampires...? He is a Latuk vampire and surely he pleads not guilty. So this is recorded, and therefore he must prove his innocence in court when his number is up.. So his case is not absolved yet.
Currently he is like a loan default victim chased by Ah longs. On the front is the pending court case due to gold under declaration with the state, at his back is Kretam's legal action to prove Dracula's breach of fiduciary duty, on his left is the police investigation on the alleged fraud to collect 20 million from Bahvest, and on his right might be his master who needs to shut him up to prevent their public exposure. In horse terminology, he is trapped and stuck with nowhere to go, its like he can't even see the light of day.