this more or less inline wth which i posted earlier i.e it is nobody intrest to revisit 2008 crisis of IMF version... http://www.cnbc.com/id/102080180

Wmney,
TQ for sharing..

tq guys for sharing all the nice stories....yes one fine day kps will move n the chart will show that..... after last 2 small up cycle now it stays under the barish tone....let see n wait when kps will cross to the bull side for weeks to come...relax not to worry much on bskl current down turn.....our most kind of numbers i.e gdp etc are fair to good...n bskl just small mkt n just following the major global trend...since SnP closed at 1906 n has almost reach the 200days moving average likely the overall mkt will rebound in the coming weeks.....but not neccessary kps....so if u are long term 2 to 3 years player may be this is golden opertunity to buy and keep for 2 to 3 years...n guy like me looking for short term excitement within few months let wait till the chart show clear bullish way forward before jump to the moving train while enjoying the current bullet train ride...
my opinion based on chart, my pick the hopeful moving train in near future within 2 to 3 weeks would be farmbes, farmbes-wb n panpage...good luck.....

kps may take 1 to 2 months to cross to bullish side....let wait n see...

CHONGWAY,
TQ for sharing...

jolie2,
just sharing my 2 cent opinion make portfolio ranking n may be pick top 3 stocks for yr investment...not to just focus on single stock...n in my radar screen ranking KPS is number 9 (just observing form outside till it goes up to at least no 3 only considering buying)

char1234,
my simple 2cent opinion may be break through 1800 n settle at around 1790...down about 5.5% from all time high (1896)...in line wth S&P which down 5.5% last night from all time high (2017)....

mmm but not to worry to much cause the idea globally now the world economy is integrated all the major stake holder such as USA, China, Japan and EU will not allow the 2008 crisis to happen again...

n likely all will adjust their policy accordingly to at least sustain the current global economic condition cause if it happen again the risk just too high such break up of EU, global currency war, global deflation, real 3rd world war??? which nobody will gain n destabilizing the whole capitalist financial system (if u still remember one of the major topic discussed in 2008 crisis was the broken of world/capitalist financial system)
... so all the doctor doom theories will work for a short while before money printing extend globally (usa QE stop by Oct, now continued by ECB in Nov n next Japan n probably China) in order to put money into people pocket to drive inflation at least 2% globally...

n the easy way of doing it is of course stock mkt because the number can be inflated within mater of hours n days such as in Msia now...e.g the Y2015 budget will spend about rm 80 billion on various projects n i believe even before the projects started some people including us has already made some money to be spent to make world turning around so to speak....kikiki n good luck

CHONHWAY,
where do u get that extra projects from.....were they budgeted previously...??...i came across to one of them previously said by politician reported in news paper...

sunztzhe,
TQ for sharing....

n following is my 2 cent view on the potential KLCI way forward by looking at its component stocks after mkt close today ....

probably klci likely to rebound next week cause currently too over sold... I checked the klci components (all total 30 counters), 12 counters are already in bullish condition and 2 counters in the entry to bullish cycle n the rest just either over sold or on the way down....so a total 14 counters (about half of klci components) are on the way up ranging form a mater of days, weeks to months...so my conclusion klci....

1. worst case, side ways till year end...
2. likely case, up swing but with minimal gain probably between 70 to 120 points....
3. best case, klci add another 120 to 200 points by year end...

note :
following are in bullish condition;
1. AXIATA
2. DIGI
3. TM
4. YTL
5.YTLPOWER
6. MAYBANK
7. IOICORP
8. RHBCAP
9. HLBANK
10.PPB
11.HLFG
12.TENAGA

at entry the bullish cycle;
1. SIME
2.CIMB

that just my 2 cent opinion n good luck

sunztzhe,
look like side way to bearish bias...n i just observing form outside,let it compete with the rest in my radar screen for best ranking buying in

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m50%2Cm200%2Cb&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&c=&s=5843.KL%2C+&ql=1

n u may want to consider the rest of the construction companies in line with y2015 budget....total cost approx rm75.25bil...as follows :

part of the 2015 budget summary :
the real goodies for gadang ???
(http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/10/Budget-2014-Highlights/?style=biz)

Infrastructure projects

In 2015, several infrastructure projects will be implemented:

First: Construction of the 59-km Sungai Besi – Ulu Klang Expressway (SUKE) at a total construction cost of RM5.3bil;

Second: Construction of the 276-km West Coast Expressway from Taiping to Banting at a total construction cost of RM5bil;

Third: Construction of the 47-km Damansara – Shah Alam Highway (DASH) at a total construction cost of RM4.2bil;

Fourth: Construction of the 36-km Eastern Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE) at a total construction cost of RM1.6bil;

Fifth: Upgrading the East Coast railway line along Gemas - Mentakab, Jerantut - Sungai Yu and Gua Musang - Tumpat with an allocation of RM150mil;

Sixth: Construction of the 56-km Second MRT Line from Selayang to Putrajaya at an estimated cost of RM23bil; and

Seventh: LRT 3 Project, which will link Bandar Utama to Shah Alam and Klang, at an estimated cost of RM9 billion, will be implemented.

The Pengerang Integrated Petroleum Complex project with a total investment of RM69 billion is expected to create more than 10,000 job opportunities.
Additionally, to develop the electric vehicle manufacturing industry in Malaysia, a Sustainable Mobility Fund of RM70mil will be established under SME Bank. Initially, 50 electric buses will be introduced.

Pan-Borneo Highway

As the North-South Highway project has transformed the development from Perlis to Johor, the Government intends to start construction of the 1,663-km Pan-Borneo Highway comprising 936 km in Sarawak and 727 km in Sabah at a total construction cost of RM27bil.

DreamConqueror,
Total overall projects rm75.25bil (assuming gadang get 10% of the project)....how about rm3 in 2months ????....kiki

jenabchen123,
just short term correction n following my 2 cent opinion klci way forward....

probably that klci likely to rebound next week cause currently too over sold... I check the klci components (all total 30 counters) 12 counters are already in bullish mode and 2 counters in the entry to bullish mode....so a total 14 counters (about half of the components) are on the way up ranging form a mater of days, weeks to months...so my conclusion klci....
1. at least worst case side ways till year end...
2. likely case up swing but with minimal gain probably between 70 to 120 points....

note :
following are in bullish mode;
1. AXIATA
2. DIGI
3. TM
4. YTL
5.YTLPOWER
6. MAYBANK
7. IOICORP
8. RHBCAP
9. HLBANK
10.PPB
11.HLFG
12.TENAGA

at entry the bullish mode;
1. SIME
2.CIMB

that just my 2 cent opinion n good luck

part of the 2015 budget summary :
the real goodies for azrb ???
(http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/10/Budget-2014-Highlights/?style=biz)

Infrastructure projects

In 2015, several infrastructure projects will be implemented:

First: Construction of the 59-km Sungai Besi – Ulu Klang Expressway (SUKE) at a total construction cost of RM5.3bil;

Second: Construction of the 276-km West Coast Expressway from Taiping to Banting at a total construction cost of RM5bil;

Third: Construction of the 47-km Damansara – Shah Alam Highway (DASH) at a total construction cost of RM4.2bil;

Fourth: Construction of the 36-km Eastern Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE) at a total construction cost of RM1.6bil;

Fifth: Upgrading the East Coast railway line along Gemas - Mentakab, Jerantut - Sungai Yu and Gua Musang - Tumpat with an allocation of RM150mil;

Sixth: Construction of the 56-km Second MRT Line from Selayang to Putrajaya at an estimated cost of RM23bil; and

Seventh: LRT 3 Project, which will link Bandar Utama to Shah Alam and Klang, at an estimated cost of RM9 billion, will be implemented.

The Pengerang Integrated Petroleum Complex project with a total investment of RM69 billion is expected to create more than 10,000 job opportunities.
Additionally, to develop the electric vehicle manufacturing industry in Malaysia, a Sustainable Mobility Fund of RM70mil will be established under SME Bank. Initially, 50 electric buses will be introduced.

Pan-Borneo Highway

As the North-South Highway project has transformed the development from Perlis to Johor, the Government intends to start construction of the 1,663-km Pan-Borneo Highway comprising 936 km in Sarawak and 727 km in Sabah at a total construction cost of RM27bil.

part of the 2015 budget summary :
the real goodies for gadang ???
(http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/10/Budget-2014-Highlights/?style=biz)

Infrastructure projects

In 2015, several infrastructure projects will be implemented:

First: Construction of the 59-km Sungai Besi – Ulu Klang Expressway (SUKE) at a total construction cost of RM5.3bil;

Second: Construction of the 276-km West Coast Expressway from Taiping to Banting at a total construction cost of RM5bil;

Third: Construction of the 47-km Damansara – Shah Alam Highway (DASH) at a total construction cost of RM4.2bil;

Fourth: Construction of the 36-km Eastern Klang Valley Expressway (EKVE) at a total construction cost of RM1.6bil;

Fifth: Upgrading the East Coast railway line along Gemas - Mentakab, Jerantut - Sungai Yu and Gua Musang - Tumpat with an allocation of RM150mil;

Sixth: Construction of the 56-km Second MRT Line from Selayang to Putrajaya at an estimated cost of RM23bil; and

Seventh: LRT 3 Project, which will link Bandar Utama to Shah Alam and Klang, at an estimated cost of RM9 billion, will be implemented.

The Pengerang Integrated Petroleum Complex project with a total investment of RM69 billion is expected to create more than 10,000 job opportunities.
Additionally, to develop the electric vehicle manufacturing industry in Malaysia, a Sustainable Mobility Fund of RM70mil will be established under SME Bank. Initially, 50 electric buses will be introduced.

Pan-Borneo Highway

As the North-South Highway project has transformed the development from Perlis to Johor, the Government intends to start construction of the 1,663-km Pan-Borneo Highway comprising 936 km in Sarawak and 727 km in Sabah at a total construction cost of RM27bil.

sunztzhe,
tq for sharing..

jolie2,
be careful booming like yesterday...

apini,
gadang long term gem stone investment maaa....but the small2 one for quick pocket money to by meggi mee n play mahjong loooo...kikiki

kglim,
but for gadang my 2 cent opinion likely will take few weeks to recover to rm1.80 n probably crossing rm2.00 n stay at above rm2.00 if EPS is proven leading to 40 cent by the end of the month...

itlim67,
positive at least from the technical chart prospective n bought some today...

i3i2i1,
buy bye buy...kiki

kglim,
probably that klci likely to rebound next week cause currently too over sold... I check the klci components (all total 30 counters) 12 counters are already in bullish mode and 2 counters in the entry to bullish mode....so a total 14 counters (about half of the components) are on the way up ranging form a mater of days, weeks to months...so my conclusion klci....
1. at least worst case side ways till year end...
2. likely case up swing but with minimal gain probably between 70 to 120 points....

note :
following are in bullish mode;
1. AXIATA
2. DIGI
3. TM
4. YTL
5.YTLPOWER
6. MAYBANK
7. IOICORP
8. RHBCAP
9. HLBANK
10.PPB
11.HLFG
12.TENAGA

at entry the bullish mode;
1. SIME
2.CIMB

that just my 2 cent opinion n good luck

i3i2i1,
dono i suppose panpage is some kind of the front liner of local technical supporter for eCommerce but the taukey keep on buying since y2012 till 9 oct probably keep on buying today... i have been sideline observing the chat for the last 3 months n look like it has been on bullish mode for the last 2 months n bought some 300k units this morning ..hope it will continue its journey to the mountain top...

apini,
today my fingure got ichi so bought panpage 300k units....kiki

apini,
for now just intrested on the gadang dividend payment....n since probably most of us consider gadang as sparkling gem stone so i follow the crowd to keep it for a while probably till 2018....kikiki. ....my average around 1.25 hopely by then become dabble....

i3i2i1,
some indirect related news to panpage....http://www.cnbc.com/id/102072554

i3i2i1,
in my radar screen AZRB lost bet with PANPAGE...so bought panpage instead but still putting azrb on the radar screen competing with the rest in the list....huhu

char1234,
at the moment bskl take a break since mid july..

apini,
that take years of investing n also a lot of losses along the way...no joke i have been through of some very expensive hard lessons such as lost rm400k in mater of weeks... and only one thing that i notice and learn, news some time is not exactly right but chart n numbers don't lie....my 2 cent opinion is try to understand the charts and numbers vs the news ...

just an example mudajya(5085), news early this week, it is the first runner to get the rm200mil contract for Razak exchange but Mudajya chart is still in the bearish cycle then the question when is the right time to go in with respect to the big picture n mudajya....the way i do it is just include it into my portfolio while monitoring KLCI n global picture n just daily monitoring mudajya waiting it to turn bullish form sideline (no buying) and only start buying when the 1. the big picture is good 2. when mudajya turns bullish...

at the moment after about 2.5 months of bskl & global down turn my best guess is the global mkt would be good at least for next 2 months (u can always check wth klci chart, S&P chart, etc that the range is between 2 to 4 months bullish cycle following after the bearish cycle if that is not a major correction for the last 4 years)... so to me the best to put money now is into stock that already turn bullish(chart in weekly & daily time frame) for the immediate coming potential bullish cycle such as Farmbes (bought 100k units last 2 weeks) & Farmbes-WB (bought 700k unit last 1 months+) , AZRB, PANPAGE...n hoping for the best n ready for the worst n good luck...

apini,
yes i m along the line wth u just wait for the 4sen dividend which amount to rm40k may be can have small holiday n just forget gadang price for now till 2018.???? may be...

4u2c,
yes u are right but mkt correction is depend in which area u are looking at... e.g

Major world mkt
ASIA
1. Japan stock mkt has been side way relatively if looked form 1990 prospective but if u look from end 2012 it is bullish n base on the following chart likely Nikkei 255 is going from 16k to 18k probably within 6 months to 1 year from now..
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=%5EN225&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m50%2Cm200%2Cb&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=

2. China stock mkt has been down since 2008 financial crisis which reaching all time high around 6k point in late 2007 but if u look form early 2014 it start turn bullish in mid 2014, now around 2300 point n potentially going to 2800 point by probably 6 months form now.
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=000001.SS&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=b%2Cm50%2Cm200&a=v%2Cr14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=
https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=000001.SS&t=5y&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=b%2Cm50%2Cm200&a=v%2Cr14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=

EU
3. German DAX has been on super bull since 2008 crisis n likely on the way down n potentially on major bearish trend for time to come...
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=%5EGDAXI&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m200%2Cb%2Cm100%2Cm50&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=

AMERICA
3. USA been on super bull since last 2008 crisis n potentially to continue for next 6 months
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=%5EGSPC&t=my&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m200%2Cb%2Cm100%2Cm50&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=%5EGSPC&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m200%2Cb%2Cm100%2Cm50&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&;c=

my opinion looking at all the above n the euro/usd, yen/usd, yuan/usd, RM/usd suggesting that in general currently is the global portfolio adjustment and alignment, locking profit n looking for places of under value stock mkts for future better return such as Japan, China, selected EU states, Msia, New Zeland..etc..
n for BSKL to me at least the bull is just resting before start running at least for next 3 months, so any BSKL pull down like yesterday is a good buy (especially on construction and trade & service sectors)

of course this is just looking from the stock mkt point of view...with out considering other type asset class such as currency, property n gold...

***for all those super rich they are just doing all that to preserve their wealth value and less concern probably from having usd1bil to making another usd1bil in near future...

AhMoi,
let the chart n numbers speak.....up to u to interprete them...kikiki

1.rm/usd.. http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=USDMYR=X&t=5d&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

2.Asia Pacific indices.. https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=asia

3. us pre mkt..http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937?trknav=dw:topnav:markets:premarkets:100746255

good luck...

AhMoi,
for sure nothing is sustainable....everthing is very fluid n dynamic but one thing charts dont lie....

let see what will happen to bskl today. ....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/15839121?utm_expid=66135139-10.kmacaZOuRDi6dQcJUz_RYw.0

may be today it up up away....fly high to the sky.... folloeing us mkt....http://www.cnbc.com/id/15839121?utm_expid=66135139-10.kmacaZOuRDi6dQcJUz_RYw.0

AhMoi,
do u buy this story....? I don't...
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/08/Asian-markets-mostly-down-after-IMF-forecast-cuts/

us pre mkt look good http://www.cnbc.com/id/17689937?trknav=dw:topnav:markets:premarkets:100746233

EU big red start to turn green..https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/intlindices?e=europe

may be sign of BSKL rebound tomorrow....!!!

additional..
1. BNM keep the bank rate on hold @3.25% from last revision in july??
2. FED USA target interest rate increase by mid 2015....

these and earlier are supporting n good news....

so what the bad news SORRY NO GHOST STORY HERE.....
1. russia/ukraine dispute include winter gas supply to EU
2. ISIS (which i dont think having big impact to global economy while the oil price keep going down n no show of u-turn for now)
3. AFTER ALL NO MUCH REALLY BAD NEWS...

so why the global mkt down....to me the answer is simple re adjust of portfolio & profit locking before moving to next course....

AhMoi,
miss out these two points which make me believe that the bull still very much alive for bskl...
1. the TENAGA tariff up revision
2. 1MDB listing in qtr 1 ???

n wish all the luck...kikiki

AhMoi,
This is just my 2ct opinion...ok (all at yr own risk)
1.solely based on technical
klci started down by mid july n continue till now today klci close @ 1824 i.e -3.72% from all time high (klci 1896)...the way the final minute of klci sudden movement to -9 point today suggest a potentially klci going down to about-5% to 1800 (1896 X 0.95 = 1801.2)...that the big picture...of course that would depend on USA & EU mkt tonight, if they rebound strongly likely asia region will follow tomorrow..but u may want to observe the overall bskl volume tomorrow especially the morning session cause normally if the volume is strong potentially the mkt will rebound in short term if not probably will go down to -8% (1744) n then -10%(1700) of cause it will not happen by tomorrow but probably within next 2 months time.

2. external factor such as 2015 budget etc...
2.1 less subsidies on oil n gas prices n GST is probably positive new to the mkt cause it will provide room for the government to spend more on projects development such as recently announced rm20 bil 7 highways will be awarded by 1st qtr 2015 (good news in general for the construction companies) and i tend to believe a lot more will come by next year (let we listen to 2015 budget announcement carefully this Friday by PM)

2.2 US surprisingly good job data
2.3 EU quantitative easing by Nov 2014
2.4 Technical chart for two major mkt Nikkei 255 & China up trend..

2.4.1 Nikkei 255 has been on up trend cycle since late May 2014..now in resting mode for short while....https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=%5EN225&t=2y&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m50%2Cm200%2Cb&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&c=

2.4.2 China (SSE Composite Index close +18.92) start moving to north direction form Jan 2014 n now already in bullish mode....http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=000001.SS&t=5y&l=off&z=l&q=c&p=m50%2Cm100%2Cm200%2Cb&a=r14%2Cw14%2Cm26-12-9&c=

Looking at the closing of these major mkts i.e china +ve n Japan nice potential dabble bottom and all of the above suggest the potential down side mkts for Asia region is minimal...

which include also the movement of USD vs the rest of the world...i.e USD look like side way to down bias at least for this week..
US T-Bill 10 year also down for short while....

so all in all good luck....

4u2c,
azrb daily chart short term bearish but has break through bongiluerband likely tobrebound..n weekly bullish since mid july...

4u2c,
actually i have several more in consideration compiting wth azrb such as panpage gadang htpadu trc etc....what i do is buying time n monitoring see what the best option to put my money into....i believe most of us have some sort of short list with some risk b ranking put to individual stock....just example panpage....no real official news but alot of folower cheep pe reasobable chart good in mid of bull cycle most importent the toukey is continue collecting vs azrb the toukey is selling...just example the rest is up to u to make reasonable decision how n which one the best bet to invest...

bursafreeman,
tq..

HanSolo,
chart says over sold...good for buying...
to me the sentiment that causing bskl/klci drop is petgas which start the chain reaction..... this is petronas gas project
"http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/07/Petronas-threatens-15-year-delay-of-Canada-LNG-plant-if-no-tax-deal/"

i think this is more to tactical negotiation to get reasonable good bargain n don't think the effect to whole mkt will last long....

infect now i am ready to buy if azrb fall below 70ct....because this kind of price movement has happened several times before since 2013 and end up with reasonable price rebound.....

just wounder what happen to the last proposed dividend, it was proposed almost 3 months a go ....

more construction projects are coming...rm20bil for 7 highways 1qtr next year....
my best guess based on the chart tp rm1 by 1 month from now....
be patient n let see what the 2015 budget will tell us...

tp around rm1...probably 1 month from today

chloe_ts,
in bull trend..

bad politic when the action mainly driven by revange....anyway PR look like diging their own grave....let them have it before thing change hand again....no worry either side just schacy make shift shallow politic.....the effect will be the same disregard who ever they are as selangor development mainly driven by economic actitities and bizz n politic just parasit to the whole picture....

will this kill bskl bull...?? http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Business-News/2014/10/06/Pressure-on-ringgit

mkt crash normaly unexpected when complesence set in...my current expection probably bskl starting to go down/semi major correction??? likely by 2nd qtr 2015 to 2016??? after big up cycle in coming 4rt qtr 2014 n 1st qtr 2015.... this is based on plan put on several mega projects....rm20 bil 7 high ways, tenaga tarif inrease, 1MDB listing....if we relate to ETP last 2 years was oil n gas co put under the sun....n this time around construction will be the major driver of bskl n probably after semi major correction construction will fether drive bskl to 2020 together with plantation co as by then plm oli industry will rebound after long bear cycle at least has been more than 3 years now...anyway this is just my simple man on the street opinion. ...thing will change drustictly at the turn of any major global events such usa intrest rate policy change, EU china japan economic reform......currency war etc...

after all every story will always have an end. ....so always looking out for the any nusty bear coming....