kris134.....haha...too hopefull...if its 10...dsonic will have a market cap of 13.5b. so be realistic. castle in the air collapse easily

@ simctgal....may be its your style or your character, why need to spite at things that you already discarded and do not want ?

No doubt this is a forum free for all to express their ideas, but you surely know being spitefull and hoping that dsonic fall into the dump will stir the ire of even the most peace loving person here.

by quoting pdtan and his posts that is always filled with anger and hatred for dissenting voice, whose ulterior motive is to scare weakholders to sell cheap ( 3.65 ? ) so he can profit later on...i can only says feathers of the same flock....

Excercise price is 1.32

Exercise/ Conversion Ratio 2.64 ICULS : One (1) ordinary share of RM0.50 each in YTL Land ("YTL Land Share")

sign of decadence every where. unilateral action forbids others to response, but on the other hand in the name of race and religion, keep doing the nonsensical.

damage to Cadbury business is enormous, its worldwide, just because some nitwit thinks he can do whatever he likes, contaminated samples that is now cannot be ignored or proven...I am just wondering.....

Pavillion, Bursa staff did not do their homework and follow the market emotions blindly, that is why made a fool out of themselves, though they had their concern and duty bound to reign in the runaway freigth train, but using drastic market measures can only create finanacial disasters to the minority shareholders and allows the big boys to maximise their returns.

5w33...its a captured market that cannot expand unless it has a wider base with varieable services. If its only passport and IC renewal/making, it will only be a stagnant recession proof counter. No more future growth value

@ ufis, i concur with you, but when reason are not listen to and forumer that expressed with angers and hatred for dissent, barking is normal

you know why it sustain the run for such a long time....its a well thought out plan to create value, values that was created out of a contract that only dsonic was awarded.

This run will sustain if what was said is true ( need confirmation on petrol card ...etc ). The invent of smart card usage in many sectors will sustain this run. Infact, if all these contracts are awarded, dsonic may become a counter that is recession proof IMHO.

ufis...beware, for making statement like this, you will be barked at

JohnyKhong....not easy to pick a winner like dsonic...rarely happens
but once in a blue moon....it happenes. The great thing about it is, the creation of values is still on going,

The number of shares is 1.35b, the paid up capital is 135m, but last year profit is 81m and projected to be growing....

nich0las...to put in perspective....if one were to buy at 2.20, after the ipo...lets say 10 lots...costing him 22k, after the 1:2 bonus, he would have 15 lots, then the 1 to 5 split he would have, 75 lots and now the 1:1 bonus....he is looking at 150 lots at 1.85 a share...which is 277.5k...and people like him, if he holds till now, would have the foresight to buy more too..an easy investment of 50 lots costing 110k will make him a millionaire....he deserves it.

The wonder of multiplying factor of bonus and split for a growth stock.

salman...you sound like a bogus saleperson...1.90 where got discount ? :-)

get them to update manually...as it is your right

mkjanvij....you can trade double the quantity before today...except that you may need to check if your broking house open that extra quantity for u to trade...as specified by bursa.

auditexpress....get your broking house to open for u

mkjanvij , hochimama....yes you can sell if you want, the share will be credited in time for delivery...the only issue is if u use online, your system may not be updated for u to trade.

the fear they give short term players.....

all the short term / contra players running helter skelter

@ nich0las....PE is Price / Earning ratio...after bonus, the price adjusted by reducing by half and since the number of share increased by 1 fold, the earning per share also reduced by half...so when both are reduced by half...the ratio will not change, maintained at 30, until there is price or earning changes later....

@ Angietan....the mechanism quoted by the article published in sundaily whom actually requote statement made in nanyang and sin chew..if you have the chance, go read the nanyang tuesday edition...a two full page on this and the source is provided by a competitor to dsonic...the icash global...and i believe the ministry shoot it down as rubbish because it was rejected.

@ Billytoh.....sigh...do read up when in doubt, or else you will pay a lot of "tuition" fees to the market.

A split entails a subdivision of the original share...for e.g. when dsonic went for a 1 to 5 split, its par value per share from 50 sens were split to 5 of 10 sen each...when this happen, the reference price will also be split to 1/5 from the last close price.

A bonus arise from a new share is created to be given to the shareholder...e.g. a 1:1 bonus for dsonic means the current 10 sen par value maintains, just another new share is created for the entitlement.

This two mechanism will result in more shares being created and a "dilution" is factor in, you cant possibly expect the share price to be the same as before....on friday , instead of 1 share of 3.70...u will get 2 share of 1.85...same same...its the after effect you should be expecting....e.g when it moves to 2.00...your net worth will be 4.00 and if it goes to 3.00...your net worth will be 6.00...and like wise if it drop to 1.60...u will cry as you will be left with 3.20 only

have to be patient, market are not bullish all the time, with stock like dsonic, the prospect is good, but you cannot expect it to move up all the time, I personally expect this consolidation phase to continue for at least a month to two before it will be played, as I suspect the government will only announce the subsidies rationalisation programmes prior or during the budget.

In the longer term, i concur it should go higher base on fundamental that I can see, but in the short term, the market forces are harder to predict and also the new contract that is in the works are the determinant, we can only wait for comfimation.

higher liquidity is a double edge sword, on one hand it allows affordabilities and easy trades, on the other hand if there is bad news it can overwhelmed the stock price.

lets assume on thursday 5pm closing is 3.70...then by driday 6th, the starting reference price will be 1.85....on opening it can either go up or down...

@ PN17player....haha....contra play will result in you entitled to the bonus share, but at the same time you will also accumulated an equal amount in contra loss....

@ Kenny Foo....no one is fighting, like I said...opinions expressed here are free...no cost and free of encumbrances, each are entitled to his /her views, and opinions expressed here are always open to criticism, part and parcel of the game. Like you said, as long as make money...that is the ultimate objective.

haha...sound familiar ?....no we did not pay a single sen of ransom...( but we pay for negotiation fees )

anyway...time will tell, and we do know, the PM had mentioned so many times on subsidy rationalisation programmes...what the mkt does not know is in what form it will be implemented.

@klsefan...director chew ben ben did not buy any shares from the open market...its a direct crossing done at a low price of 3.33.

I like the announcements that was made by the directors and what they have done, its a clear sign of what may be happening in the future.

Its not sheer coincidence on the low pricing yesterday and the transactions done.

t3 t4 for those high price high volume day...down a little is called blessing, objectively its well absorbed, all sellers taken up

@ Ufis...well said...look at how rhb flip flop on its advise that is base on the same rationale indicates that they are spewing plenty of BS...

people used to say...lead a cow to the mkt, you got beef, follow a cow to the mkt...u got plenty of bullshits in your hand

@Chartmaster...its your decision n choice to make, opinions are free, free of encumbrances too.

@Chartmaster....so is it effective ? The implementation is half hearted and many singaporeans are laughing at it. just double sided tape a malaysian plate on their singaporean plate before entering the petrol station will do the job...the petrol pump attendant is not going to bother so much. That is why we still lose so much through the borders..

Not the whole nation is required....why should it be ? They also dont want those who dont have a driving license or a motor vehicle to sell their quota ... Lets say, you drive a car, and it is required of you to register so as to get subsidies petrol....will you do it ? Naturally, they also dun want a motocycle to have a quota of 200 litres a month.

Like I said many times....follow those analysts report 100% will take you to holland many rounds.

RHB lately churning out reports like toilet papers, they told you in the last report there is a blip in q results ended 31/3/2014 but maintain buy on target price of 4.08...and now true enough a small blip ...but they have changed the advice to sell / downgrade ?? Treating the mnority investing communities with contempt ! Bunch of idiotic wankers !

@ ChartMaster....Most people, especially the older generation is using old mycard format, whereby no new information is available other than the one available in their old IC...the quantum is easily a few millions. So, if mycard is being used, the business for dsonic is going to be substantial.

If the government is going to use the car specie to determine subsidies allocation, It will be an excercise in futility. I am just wondering if they are that dumb if that is the case. You think the petrol pump attendant going to bother ?

The news play on the media is all an excercise to brainwash the citizens, preparing your psyche to accept the coming subsidies removal. It is already prepared for implementation, starting with commercial vehicle's diesel usage, then follow my private diesel vehicles, my guess is, once this is running smooth, petrol vehicles will be implemented...No one has any details on how this is going to be carried out, but honestly, to be effective, mycard has to be involved. If not, I can imagine the many ways to circumvent the control.

@ pdtan....if one were to look at any counters in the exchange all has a resemblance of t3 t4 play...so dont nit picking
infact today is the t3 cycle for the trade done on 27th...and it did not crash down as you expected ? Why you choose coming thursday ? The last day for cum bonus and some selling is expected....so u expect to collect cheap ar ? Like i say, it may not happen and play to your wish !

cheers and have a good weekend,

by the way, i invest and hardly trade on short term

johson...it rarely happen that a proposed bonus is not carried out by a company in bursa history...especially a healthy profitable company like sbc.

both, bonus and dividend, will be in the bag, just be patient.

binki...haha, i thought your fortuneteller very chun one ?

After the 1 to 5 split, the liquidity of dsonic is expected to be better, but judging from recent days volume, there are not many sellers
and passive buying to accumulation is quite obvious even at this price. The pending 1:1 bonus may help to increase the liquidity, but as long as the company can perform beyond expectation, which i think it will, those thinking of buying cheap may not get their wish.

salman...its free market

@ Bateman....you trust this whole set up ? 3 yrs ago, sime bought his stakes at 2.30 and refuse to do a GO, which they should, and let the price drop back to as low as 1.40 and languished there to clean up all the minority shareholders who had bought in to the story....and now, while trading at 2.20...the very same person who sold his stakes to sime is now buying back at 2.90....

personally, i will ignore counter like this, one that takes its minority shareholder as idiots.

DRwarrant pakai tembak only...luster is not going to react to your shouting and swearing.

easy ma...copy and paste...work done 6 times over

@ abundance...if one were to follow all these target price set by the analysts in town, i bet you in the very near future, you will not have much left to invest. All these are for reference base on theory and set parameters and a backdoor is always put in place just in case it goes the other way....

@ufis,... very hard to contest a decision made by the "kings without crown"...they are too obstinate in their ways because they got guidelines to follow and you will be fighting a losing battle as they had covered their arse with regulatory framework.

Bursa has no moral ground to designate a counter that makes 80m net profit and has a 30ish PE....so many other ace mkt counter with no PE and run up 400 % in price...why dont Bursa goes desinate them ?

Dsonic ...in my opinion, the sentiment did not crash...it was manipulated...so that a certain party can collect cheap. They had collected what they want, and it will be up north again when the time is right.

1. Call warrant issued by a third party coincided with a huge run up in the stock prices, making it looks precarious.

2. TA analysts did not say the wrong thing, instead its a misleading news article headlines that spooked the mkt on designation. Those analysts was made used to give their opinions, and those opinions was twisted to insinuates what the headlines wants most people to believe

3. Bursa used a 2 months old uma to prewarned the mkt by giving a trading advisory that insinuates a pending designation

4. Designation of a counter, no matter how good is a counter, when it is designated, buyer have to put cash in ( cheque that makes good in 3 days time also tak laku ) to buy and seller can only sell after the share is credited into his cds, then only can sell...with situation like this, share prices can only go south...as sellers wanted to sell when there is no buyers to take

5. Stock broking houses was told to do their house cleaning and stop speculators over bought into this counter, resulting in two limit down...they asked client to reduce their margin position by either topping up and also reduce the capping on the stock. This resulted in a sell down...the two big bank backed investment hse is the one.

Dsonic with PE of 30ish for a growth stock ( 30% ) is absolutely normal...why ecoworld now PE 88 run up from 1.00+ to 5.00...there is no one crying designation ? The answer is simple...the future earnings are expected to reduced the PE in the coming years.

@ pavillion, askforwhy took a gamble and sold his position, now hoping it will drop to buy back, but with pending bonus in a few days time, i doubt it will affect much with a slight drop in profit , especially the 1st quarter, morever it had already pre warned the market of the drop...its going to be a non event. People are actually focussing on the second quarter results as it need to deliver 4m cards and also the other pending contracts....

I do not expect it to be very strong this few days, as the mkt need to digest the 9m turnover done on 27th and due on tomorrow and monday

eastern tea...its cum bonus now and its only 3.75, even if its before bonus, its also a buy lor if it ever can go to 10.00 !

haha, Ravi, u make money from CA and not CA in the money...

@ Ravi...pls enlighten me why you say CA still in money ? when the excercise price is 3.72 and the conversion ratio is 6 for 1...and the CA current price is 33 sen

not running...holding, bonus coming

not many lots are done below 3.70