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82 comment(s). Last comment by Ooi Teik Bee 2016-06-16 11:56

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:08 | Report Abuse

TQ for taking yr time to reply.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:20 | Report Abuse

But I make not lie mah, just to explain how the system works, am I right?

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:24 | Report Abuse

In many cases, once VVIP n VIP started to buy in, especially for those small or mid cap counters, prices will move up a lot. When the broadcast was made to the normal clients, chances is that price might oredi went up more than 50%.

For example, the price movement of Johotin-Wa, Canone, Chin Well etc during Q4 2015.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:28 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/blidx.jsp

And then yr VVIP came out to do his promotion during Nov/Dec 2015.

The rest is history.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:34 | Report Abuse

Looks like u advised yr VVIP n VIPs to bet very heavy on Gamuda-WR (WE) thus one single counter can lift up the whole portfolio by 50%......

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 09:41 |

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 09:44 | Report Abuse

Please stop immediately action as per your description in answer to Q1.
Please.. please ....and please.............

Ans : Noted. Thank you.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:50 | Report Abuse

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Jun 15, 2016 09:41 AM | Report Abuse

In many cases, once VVIP n VIP started to buy in, especially for those small or mid cap counters, prices will move up a lot. When the broadcast was made to the normal clients, chances is that price might oredi went up more than 50%.

Ans : It is not true, all share the same information. No preference is given to any party.
Thank you.
Ooi


But u just admitted so in yr article. U bought first, then followed by VVIP n then VIPs n then RM960 Clients. There will be difference in timing of buying. As VVIP owns few hundred millions fund, when he started to buy in big prices will fly to the sky...

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 09:50 | Report Abuse

i see a lot conflict of interest here especially when OTB have different profile client base (VVIP, VVP, normal client), i still think that VVIP and VIP will get the advantage as compared to normal client.

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 09:52 | Report Abuse

murali, good job in stir up this discussion, as least now the public know more about how OTB operates, so that they can make their decision whether to subscribe to his service, for me, is a big NO NO after knowing the above.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 09:56 | Report Abuse

Actually very easy to see. For RM960 Clients please check the timing of OTB's buy calls on Johotin-Wa n Canone last year and compared to the price charts. U will see when the buy calls was made prices oredi up 50% at least.

Yes, shared the info but on different timing and prices. That's why u dont make money but they made. Simple.

Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2016-06-15 09:58 | Report Abuse

as any licensed planner will tell you they are not allowed to take any position whatsoever manner to avoid any conflict of interest. what they do AND still do ( i.e. some ) might buy in another person account to avoid any issue. If they have any interest in any particular stocks or holdings they need to declared their vested interest. this is to share what the industry generally practised. i am not in a position to say who is morally right or wrong

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:01 | Report Abuse

Just a gentle reminder.

Jun 14, 2016 02:38 PM | Report Abuse

Once u made a lie u need to create 99 lies to cover it...trust me it's not easy...if u dont believe u can check with Koon Koon...

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 10:04 | Report Abuse

OTB should only focus on either VIP or normal client only, can't do both

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:05 | Report Abuse

Dear ks55,

Please note that I am not a fund manager, I manage fund for Mr Koon is on friendly term only. He just wants me to help him to make money from stock market. He has no say in my selection.

If it is a conflict of interest, I wish to stop and invest for myself only. I do not need this VVIP to earn my commission. He knew this term clearly.

Thank you.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:07 | Report Abuse

So U think there is no conflict of interest at all in the whole system?

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 10:08 | Report Abuse

actually, my remisier freind told me he can't use it own account to place orders, conflict of interest issue, he will get into trouble if the SCC caught him do so, i am not sure how OTB get away from his current practise

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:09 |

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murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:12 | Report Abuse

But VVIP VIPs receives yr buy calls first, it could be day or weeks in advance...Anybody here believes Koon YY sees yr buy calls at the same with us thru yr broadcast or weekly updates?

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:15 |

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Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:16 | Report Abuse

Posted by tkp2 > Jun 15, 2016 10:08 AM | Report Abuse

actually, my remisier freind told me he can't use it own account to place orders, conflict of interest issue, he will get into trouble if the SCC caught him do so, i am not sure how OTB get away from his current practise

Ans : Please check with all remisiers whether they trade or not.
Thank you.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:17 | Report Abuse

I never follow yr buy calls one as i knew how the system works. Anyway i will start to sell when my counters appeared in yr uptrending stock list and prices move up more than 50% within 1-2 months time.

Yr tips still have some value for me.

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 10:19 | Report Abuse

the one i mentioned using his wife account, which mean in principle, they are not allowed to do so, and they do it quietly

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:20 | Report Abuse

Maybe mistress leh...if any...OTB 20 years+ experience dunno meh

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:20 | Report Abuse

U think he is as stupid as VVIP meh...holding 5% shares for what? Song only but now stuck in shits

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:21 |

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Jester

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Posted by Jester > 2016-06-15 10:21 | Report Abuse

Wow. This is a good revelation indeed. At last we can know how the system works.
OTB, you know that I'm very critical in my statements. But I must say,

Your Investing and Stock Picking is top notch - I dare say one of the best, but
Your overall own business acumen & handling is shit tier.

If you don't know how to manage your VVIP, VIP, Common clients then don't. Just focus on your VVIP and VIP group only. If you want to focus on commoners, cut out the VVIP and VIP but we both know that the commissions you made from them is too much to let go therefore the best is to cut out the commoners.

Like I said, you have all these going as a business and I respect that. But it is still shit tier. Sorry. Maybe it is time to 'right-sizing' your business?

Up_down

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Posted by Up_down > 2016-06-15 10:21 | Report Abuse

The best option is to set-up a funds management company and be a funds managers drawing salary. No more people question your noble intention anymore.

tkp2

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Posted by tkp2 > 2016-06-15 10:22 | Report Abuse

the point here is i know this is an open secret, but OTB publicly collect money and do it, i strongly suggest that he check with his lawyer because he get into trouble, if anyone send a complain to SCC, then.....

Posted by iamsoonoob > 2016-06-15 10:22 | Report Abuse

why need to depend others for info?go study on your own and do homework yourself lo.....after its oneself own's money

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:24 |

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Jester

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Posted by Jester > 2016-06-15 10:24 | Report Abuse

I forgot something.. Then again, OTB cannot cut out the 'herd' right? It is important for the system to work. Or else how would the VVIP and VIP clients able to sell high.

My bad.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:29 |

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murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:30 | Report Abuse

Yr RM960 cliets are not yr clients ah? Mostly not so happy this year woh

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by Up_down > Jun 15, 2016 10:21 AM | Report Abuse

The best option is to set-up a funds management company and be a funds managers drawing salary. No more people question your noble intention anymore.

Ans : I do not wish to set up fund management, I want to retire but I just cannot do that. I need to retire fast so that I can enjoy my holidays in China. I earn my money at the expense of my health. I still prefer health than wealth.
Thank you.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:34 |

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murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:36 | Report Abuse

I see. So U dont really bother much on yr Subscribers (who are not yr clients)...No wonder.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:39 | Report Abuse

My personal opinion. If u want to make good money from OTB's skills and expertise,there are 2 options to u.

1) Pass Rm5 Million for him to manage then u get VVIP treatment.
2) Pass Rm100K (got increase or not?) then u get VIP treatment

if only got RM960 u may join CPTeh's Cohort 21, chances is that u may lose less money.

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:43 |

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murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:45 | Report Abuse

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/cpteh/98254.jsp

If CPTeh is really as good as what he claimed then u may be able to make some money..he may help u to buy IOICORP at 4.25 and sold at 4.30

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 10:47 | Report Abuse

TQ Mr.OTB for yr clarification.

I will start to do saving now so that one day I can pass Rm5 Million to you.

Please live long long and wait for me......

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 10:50 |

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Jester

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Posted by Jester > 2016-06-15 11:01 | Report Abuse

Thanks for the reply OTB. Very commendable to have a dialogue for this. I understand if you are motivated and afraid to lose your common clients as they are reliable passive cash flow.

But being active in discussion like this is commendable whether you are right or not. I don't think you are right personally. But I must give you credit for this. Like I said, I'm critical. So credit is given when it is due.

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 11:02 | Report Abuse

Mr.OTB is good people, but will be better if u can be his clients.

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-06-15 11:02 | Report Abuse

Lol...this otb try to talk rubbish again

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 11:05 | Report Abuse

Mr.OTB can always have discussion with all of us under a friendly and open manner...without calling people Liars n Stupid Idiots.

Dont worry, all are welcomed here.

performer

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Posted by performer > 2016-06-15 11:16 | Report Abuse

Please note that I am not a fund manager, I manage fund for Mr Koon is on friendly term only.
Above statement nailed it man...manage money on friendly term..murali let's be frens..then u give me money I manage very friendly for u...hahahaha

murali

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Posted by murali > 2016-06-15 11:17 | Report Abuse

If u are a young sweet lady I may withdraw my RM500 FD for you to manage it friendly

Ooi Teik Bee

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Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2016-06-15 11:26 |

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Posted by Jonathan Keung > 2016-06-15 11:29 | Report Abuse

market is not moving. might well divert from the topic. beware of Honey trap. first 500 then later snowball to 5000. just be careful guys

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