Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 16:48 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 20, 2018 01:43 PM | Report Abuse

do u start with the price/ valuation or do u start with what you want / like?

I think misers and losers start with price/ valuations.....and winners start with what they want / like.........

ME: FOR VALUE INVESTORS, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU START, BECAUSE THE PRICE YOU PAY DETERMINES YOUR RETURN. IT IS GOOD TO ALSO START WITH WHAT YOU LIKE, AND THEN DO A VALUATION.

THE PROBLEM WITH MANY RETAIL INVESTORS IS THEY DO NOT BOTHER WHERE TO START, BUT JUST FOLLOW WHAT OTHERS DO, A LEMMING BEHAVIOR. SOME JUST SIMPLY BUY AND HOPE THAT THERE WILL BE A GREATER FOOL TO TAKE OVER FROM THEM IN THE END OF THE DAY, THE NEXT DAY, THE NEXT WEEK. THAT IS WHAT THE COMMENTATOR HAS BEEN DOING, AND KEEP ON TELLING OTHERS TO FOLLOW HIM TO DIE SOMEWHERE.

SOME MAY START WITH WHAT THEY LIKE, BUT THEY HAVE NO IDEA IF THE COMPANY THEY LIKE ARE SELLING EXPENSIVE. tHAT IS WHY MOST RETAIL INVESTORS LOSE MONEY.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 17:30 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 17:52 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 21, 2018 05:30 PM | Report Abuse

kc

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/guru/166204.jsp.......loves this.


ME: FIRST OF ALL, THE ARTICLE ABOVE IS A GREAT ARTICLE. BUT LET ME TELL YOU, YOU CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT.

YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT Vishal Khandelwal IS A GREAT VALUE INVESTOR. YOU DON'T KNOW HE DOES VALUATIONS FOR ALL STOCKS BEFORE HE BOUGHT ANY.


This is what I mean...u fake value investors, fake teachers because you read a few soft cover investing books from popular book shops, maybe a few textbooks and speeches by that Wallen the Buffalo.....no use.....lose money, still don't know why lose money.

ME: WAY BEFORE I RETIRE, I ALREADY HAVE MANY TIMES RM100K IN MY INVESTMENT ACCOUNT. OVER MANY YEARS, MY CAGR IS MORE THAN 10%. SO, PLEASE, NOT EVERYONE LIKE YOU LOST MONEY.

qualities that I look for in fund managers....compromises, flexibility, no ego, adaptable, Golden Means, zen like qualities.......the same qualities that can last forever whatever challenges the stock market throw at me....the link above is well written.

qualities that will lead the followers to holland......the same qualities shown by OTB and KC Chong.....robot like, no flexibility, no learning, no adaptability, maths teacher but no business sense, ego big enough to explode any time, ....very dangerous qualities especially in view of the fact this is already a 10 years old bull market, Trump tariffs taking the world to uncharted territories, the next crisis may not be far away.....but the cari makan sifus still got to cari makan, still need new fresh victims to replace those who got buried already.

ME: THE VALUE OF MY PORTFOLIO DID GO DOWN RECENTLY. BUT OVER SAY 10 YEARS PERIOD, MY CAGR IS STILL MORE THAN 10%. OTB HAS MADE MANY PEOPLE MADE A LOT OF MONEY. YOU HAVE O COMPARISON.

Mahathir is right in saying.....the country cannot just carry on by borrowing money and finance and gambling in the stock market.

What we need are real economy stuffs, jobs, factories and new ideas. . new services.

ME; TRUE. SO, PLEASE STOP ASKING PEOPLE TO SAILANG, MARGIN TO THE MAX IN THE STOCK MARKET.

I would also say the most important quality is Think Different. Got to Think out of the box and cannot keep repeating the KC Chong and OTB stuffs.

ME: THE PROBLEM IS YOU DON'T EVEN THINK AND HAVE NO CAPACITY TO DO SO.
This is wrong Era for them.


Every Era new heroes,
Too bad people do not know new Era has come until it is over and too late.....so Think Different is best advise.

lastly, I like to repeat....

do u start with the price/ valuation or do u start with what you want / like?

ME: MANY PEOPLE, YOU ARE NOT EXCLUDED, WHEREVER THEY START, THEY HAVE NO IDEA OF VALUE VERSUS PRICE.

I think misers and losers start with price/ valuations.....and winners start with what they want / like.........

ME: NEVER HEARD OF BUYING WHAT YOU LIKE MAKE YOU RICH. i KNOW YOU LIKE JAKS AND EVERSENDAI. HAVE THEY MADE YOU RICH, LIKE WHAT YOU WISH IN A WEEK, A MONTH, OR EVEN A YEAR?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 18:21 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Apabagus > 2018-07-21 18:37 | Report Abuse

KC contribute good articles.We in i3 made up our own minds.All are adults.
qqq3,what do you contribute in i3?Everyday talk business sense but unable to come out with a single useful article.You are just a TIN KOSONG.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 18:55 | Report Abuse

apabagus.....I never say Think Different is easy.....

if think different is easy....It would be useless just like KC article,

Posted by cheoky > 2018-07-21 19:04 | Report Abuse

Usually when I can't explain something yet I want to prove I know better than author. I usually use some bombasatic or fuzzy words/terms to mask my ignorance. That is qqq3. Full stop. I guess, guess only using my intuition ya. Qqq3 investment result should be poorer than kc la.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 19:05 | Report Abuse

apabagus

at least if you sailang, u know what you are doing, very transparent.....the good, bad, the ugly. and quickly learn to deal with it...and got chance to make a difference in a short time.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 19:07 | Report Abuse

cheoky > Jul 21, 2018 07:04 PM | Report Abuse

Usually when I can't explain something yet I want to prove I know better than author. I usually use some bombasatic or fuzzy words/terms to mask my ignorance. That is qqq3. Full stop. I guess, guess only using my intuition ya. Qqq3 investment result should be poorer than kc la.
=============

I do not know KC results but I can guess.....really.

And I am very satisfied with mine.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 19:50 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by abang_misai > 2018-07-21 19:51 | Report Abuse

OTB is the best Sifu. He follows trends

Kcchong is the worst Sifu. He follows text book.

Posted by abang_misai > 2018-07-21 19:53 | Report Abuse

Qqq is still at “lanjialang”’s level. He needs to improve

Posted by abang_misai > 2018-07-21 19:54 | Report Abuse

Qqq is still at “lanjialang”’s level. He’s just good at criticise Sifus

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 19:58 | Report Abuse

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/qqq3/166189.jsp

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 20:04 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 21:24 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 21:34 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by Tom > 2018-07-21 21:48 | Report Abuse

Nobody cares about how you "know" your bank account very well, your subscribers only care about how you often give wrong buy calls at wrong timing which cause them loss a lot of money

Want to show off, please go somewhere else

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > Jul 21, 2018 09:24 PM | Report Abuse

I have very good records to show in I3.
I know my bank account very well,
it is growing year after year.
To me, I do not bother any other comment,
I will feel disappointed when my bank account is reducing.
Touch wood, so far it is growing in last 5 years.
To be honest, hopefully I do not need to lose money in 2018.

I come from a very poor family.
My parents teach me a good lesson in my life.
Do not bully people, do not tell lies in public.
I believe my credibility in I3 is still very good based on my records.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 22:03 | Report Abuse

Ooi Teik Bee > Jul 21, 2018 09:24 PM | Report Abuse

I have very good records to show in I3.
I know my bank account very well,
it is growing year after year.
To me, I do not bother any other comment,
I will feel disappointed when my bank account is reducing.
Touch wood, so far it is growing in last 5 years.
To be honest, hopefully I do not need to lose money in 2018.

I come from a very poor family.
My parents teach me a good lesson in my life.
Do not bully people, do not tell lies in public.
I believe my credibility in I3 is still very good based on my records.

Thank you.
Ooi
=============================


I am sure Najib says that of his record too.

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 22:23 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 22:30 | Report Abuse

qqq3 apabagus

at least if you sailang, u know what you are doing, very transparent.....the good, bad, the ugly. and quickly learn to deal with it...and got chance to make a difference in a short time.

ME: HOW COME YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE RM100K TO INVEST IN THE STOCK MARKET EVEN AFTER RETIREMENT AT 60+?

NOT EVEN WITH YOUR SAVING IN SO MANY YEARS OF WORKING?

I HAVE MANY FOLDS OF WHAT YOU CAN INVEST. HOW COME?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 22:33 | Report Abuse

qqq3, the fact is that you can't even smell our fart. so why condemn us on whatever we share?

after retirement and have not much saving and still sailang? Good luck.

For us it is a distribution stage now when you are still trying to accumulate. Too late. Beware you have not enough money to last your retirement. Seriously!

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 22:49 | Report Abuse

Posted by Gary Siaw > Jul 20, 2018 12:32 AM | Report Abuse
Yet a thoughtful and useful piece from kcchongnz.

Posted by Apabagus > Jul 21, 2018 06:37 PM | Report Abuse
KC contribute good articles.We in i3 made up our own minds.All are adults.
qqq3,what do you contribute in i3?Everyday talk business sense but unable to come out with a single useful article.You are just a TIN KOSONG.

Posted by cheoky > Jul 21, 2018 07:04 PM | Report Abuse
Usually when I can't explain something yet I want to prove I know better than author. I usually use some bombasatic or fuzzy words/terms to mask my ignorance. That is qqq3. Full stop. I guess, guess only using my intuition ya. Qqq3 investment result should be poorer than kc la.

Thank you very much for the kind words. That keeps me motivated to share.

For the last comment, I am very sure about it. But maybe not "poorer", but way behind. That is because, yes, my portfolio gone down recently. But over long-term of 10 years, I still have double digit CAGR.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-21 22:52 | Report Abuse

Well, I don't just simply make statement. Just goggle my portfolio which have more than 5 year record in i3investor. They are public information.

You have to show your record qqq3. But I doubt you have any public record. You only claim that you buy a stock and sold it and make so much so much. But that is only what you say. Can believe ah?

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 22:57 | Report Abuse

Posted by cheoky > Jul 21, 2018 07:04 PM | Report Abuse
Usually when I can't explain something yet I want to prove I know better than author. I usually use some bombasatic or fuzzy words/terms to mask my ignorance. That is qqq3. Full stop. I guess, guess only using my intuition ya. Qqq3 investment result should be poorer than kc la.

Comment :
Those made money from stock market are always wish to learn from others.
To make the least mistake in stock market means you are better than others.
Those keep on attacking people is because of inferior complex, he cannot make money and become jealous of other's success.
I feel very happy for others when they make money.
I wish to learn new trick from these winners.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-21 23:06 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 23:39 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 23:43 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 23:45 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-21 23:47 | Report Abuse

where is the customer yatch?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 00:02 | Report Abuse

I am sure KYY can buy and keep for 2.5 years......

a remisier can buy a share at the beginning of the year and keep a winning share until the end of the year is as fake as his fake records.


.....and that is also then...one thing about share market....every era has new heroes......

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-22 00:07 | Report Abuse

Mr Koon bought VS through my recommendation in December 2014 at 2.33, keep for 2 years and sold for 8.00 making 243% gain.
Likewise, Liihen, Latitude and Gkent.

I bought good shares like VS, Liihen, Latitude and Gkent, buy and hold for a year or more is nothing as long as the shares are good growing stocks.

If I kept KESM for > 1 year, I bought it at 5.20 in 2016, I could have sold it at 20.00.
Please refer to the below link :
https://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/pfs/54173.jsp

Buy and hold a share > 1 year is a faked record.

Cannot afford to take out RM 100,000 to buy share in KLSE, only can afford to buy on contra basis only, how to be rich ?

Buying and holding a share > 1 year is a faked record.

Value investors will laugh at this type of low class and poor investor.
He will be poor permanently.

If I bought a good growth stock, I will continue to hold it until there is no more growth and sell it. Hence I made big profit.
When you buy a good stock, let profit runs is a good strategy.

Thank you.
Ooi

Posted by Ooi Teik Bee > 2018-07-22 00:10 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 00:13 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 00:52 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-22 08:35 | Report Abuse

qqq3 otb, kc

I don't make groundless accusations.....
those are my observations and conclusions after watching KC and OTB for some time...its their process....too many holes and too robotic.....

ME: NOT GROUNDLESS ACCUSATION? SO WHERE ARE YOUR EVIDENCES?
JUST BY WATCHING? HAVE YOU SEEN ME BEFORE?
I HAVE WRITTEN HUNDREDS OF ARTICLES IN I3. WHAT IS WRONG WITH MY PROCESS? ROBOTIC? PLEASE ELABORATE.

if so many holes and so robotic also can be good ...then AI will take over the market...OTB and KC are just inferior versions of AI.....

ME: WHAT HOLES? PLEASE ELABORATE.

Posted by tecpower > 2018-07-22 09:19 | Report Abuse

Risk assets and oil prices would likely tumble as worries about growth arise, hitting currencies of commodity-exporting countries particularly hard -- namely, the Russian ruble, Colombian peso and Malaysian ringgit -- before taking down the rest of Asia.

“Asian central banks will initially try to stem currency weakness through intervention,” Brooks said. “But then Asian central banks will step back, and in my mind, the big underperformer on a six-month horizon could be EM Asia.”
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-20/currency-war-erupts...
22/07/2018 09:10
X
Weak ringgit will give Malaysian export-oriented stocks an edge.

Posted by Tom > 2018-07-22 10:38 | Report Abuse

You do not need to show off? Wake up stupid, you did it again and again, and you did it now

I think you are suffering from delusional disorder, you are the one who really need to take your medicine timely

Ans :
Please show me your records if you are better than me.
Ans : None. Talk what ?
You are not my subscriber, my subscribers made money or lost money, it is none of your business.

I do not need to show off.
I care that I am at least better than you many times in term of everything. Being it a reputation, wealth, records and fame.
You need to jump 10 times also cannot beat me.
Sour grape, please take your medicine timely.
I do not wish to visit you in Tanjong Rambutan.
I will not need to reply to this liar and idiot in I3.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 14:40 | Report Abuse

kc

when I first came here I thought u were doing some thing good....until I realised when u do stock picks and recommendations....u are only interested in Ace counters, the smaller the better, the more risky the better, the less track records the better....easier for u to manipulate , maybe....specialist in small caps....

I tell you many time......hang pig head to sell dog meat is very dishonest, very misleading and very unprofessional.

u try to give yourself a conservative image in i3 in order to promote the small caps....what kind of hanging pig heads to sell dog meat is that?

I think you are a very irresponsible person for doing so....despite trying your very best to give a conservative image.

I don't like people who hang pig head to sell dog meat. Cannot ah?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 14:52 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 15:12 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by EngineeringProfit > 2018-07-22 15:24 | Report Abuse

Alternatively......forget about all these confusing stuff....



........and JUST DO ' DAN ZANGER'

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-22 15:56 | Report Abuse

qqq3 kc
when I first came here I thought u were doing some thing good....until I realised when u do stock picks and recommendations....u are only interested in Ace counters, the smaller the better, the more risky the better, the less track records the better....easier for u to manipulate , maybe....specialist in small caps....
I tell you many time......hang pig head to sell dog meat is very dishonest, very misleading and very unprofessional.
u try to give yourself a conservative image in i3 in order to promote the small caps....what kind of hanging pig heads to sell dog meat is that?
I think you are a very irresponsible person for doing so....despite trying your very best to give a conservative image.
I don't like people who hang pig head to sell dog meat. Cannot ah?


POOR YOU. AFTER SO MANY TIMES OF EXPLAINING, EVEN AN ANIMAL WOULD HAVE UNDERSTOOD WHAT VALUE INVESTING IS. BUT SADLY IT IS NOT YOU. IT IS OK YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, BUT IT IS NOT NEED FOR YOU TO EXPOSE YOUR IGNORANCE, YOURSELF.

WHAT IS VALUE INVESTING? WHO TOLD YOU YOU HAVE TO INVEST IN GENTING, MAYBANK, CARLSBERG, CIMB, ETC? WHERE YOU LEARN THIS?

WHAT IS RISK? A COMPANY, WHETHER BIG OR SMALL, HAVING STEADY EARNINGS AND CASH FLOWS AND GOOD MANAGEMENT, AND SELLING CHEAP, A RISKY COMPANY?

HANG WHAT PIG HEAD, SELL WHAT DOG MEAT?

HEY, YOU ARE A 60+ ACCOUNTANT. DON'T YOU KNOW THAT ALL THIS TIME YOU ARE EXPOSING YOURSELF AS HOW IGNORANT YOU ARE? GOOD FOR YOU MEH?

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-22 18:27 | Report Abuse

qqq3 http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/guru/166204.jsp.......loves this.
compare and contrast your approach with this guy....
This guy I like...he promotes essential qualities I like in fund managers.....

You said "love this" for at least 3 times. However, very sadly you are continuing to expose your backside. You don't know what the writer was talking about.

Doing thorough analysis before buying a stock is what almost every true value investor does, including the writer of the above link. Whereas trying to know everything by spending to much time on every details is what a true value investor needs not do. That is the message.

No investor, I am not talking about a speculator and gambler like you, buy a stock based on BS(Bullshit), panic moment, sailang, dynamite investing like what you do. Firstly, nobody knows what you actually trying to say.

You need to improve your English comprehension brader!

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 20:19 | Report Abuse

kc

u want to speculate Ace counters or any thing u fancy, go ahead, your choice....

I hate people who hang pig head sell dog meat, my choice. And i will continue to expose your scam.....


kc, you are just a scammer.

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 20:45 | Report Abuse

yes Dan Zanger.....calls a spade a spade ......not one who hangs pig head to sell dog meat.....

Like the guy.

Posted by hollandking > 2018-07-22 20:51 | Report Abuse

kc speculate ace counters?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-22 21:07 | Report Abuse

kc is a scammer or a maths teacher with no business sense.
take your pick

Posted by kcchongnz > 2018-07-22 22:20 | Report Abuse

Posted by qqq3 > Jul 22, 2018 09:07 PM | Report Abuse
kc is a scammer or a maths teacher with no business sense.
take your pick

Me: I would be proud to be a maths teacher, whether if I have business sense or not, but definitely not that Bullshit (BS) of yours.

Scammer: a confidence game or other fraudulent scheme, especially for making a quick profit; swindle.

I propagate investing in good stocks selling at cheap prices by going through thorough analysis of stocks before buying.

You have been shouting on sailang, margin finance, panic investing, dynamite investing, or whatever it means.

Who sounds like a scammer?

I have written 324 articles in i3investors with thousands of motivating comments. I have also made 5824 comments, all of them stay in i3investor and none of them have been deleted.

You also have made thousands of comments with many nicks, Desa, Stockmanny, Brightsmart, qqq3 etc. Each of the nick was banned by i3investor admin due to the hundreds of nonsensical comments.

Lets make an educated guess.

Who likely is a scammer, kcchongnz or all the other nicks of the latest qqq3?

Posted by qqq3 > 2018-07-23 12:50 | Report Abuse

kc

anyone can say any thing they like or don't like about me....including you...I have no problems with that...really....


Its never about me...and I am not here looking for member fees or any thing like that.

I m here to express my opinion....Period.

any opinion about me...right or wrong...fair or unfair, true or false....doesn't bother me.