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36 comment(s). Last comment by stockfreak 2021-06-23 19:39

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-22 13:12 | Report Abuse

I can only wish there are more open minded and patriotic Malaysians like the above patriotic Egyptian and Middle Easterner.

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2021-06-22 14:05 | Report Abuse

LOL! Where is my comment?

Seems like someone is butthurt.

"This Egyptian(maybe a writer for a dime) only knows the surface level of the Chinese.

Having lived with Chinese, their greed is insatiable and no wonder swine is the main food which is equally greedy.

Yes, undeniably Chinese are industrious and creative in their endeavour.

However, their arrogance and greed is nauseating. They want SLAVES not employees, to work for pittance. They do DISCRIMINATE and disrespect people.

Whatever great qualities they may have is nothing when mannerism and respect is absent."

DickyMe

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Posted by DickyMe > 2021-06-22 14:16 | Report Abuse

A patriot is one who is a hard line supporter of his birth nation, not one who talks proudly of other nation.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-22 15:53 | Report Abuse

@DickyMe,
Not going to argue with you.
You can read below blog:
Nationalism, Racialism, Patriotism, Being Chinese

https://klse.i3investor.com/m/blog/Sslee_blog/2018-11-16-story-h1456087603-Nationalism_Racialism_Patriotism_Being_Chinese.jsp

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-22 16:02 | Report Abuse

Nationalism, ideology based on the premise that the individual’s loyalty and devotion to the nation-state surpass other individual or group interests.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another. The term may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity. Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.

https://www.thoughtco.com/patriotism-and-nationalism-4178864

While the words patriotism and nationalism were once considered synonyms, they have taken on different connotations. While both are the feelings of love people feel for their country, the values upon which those feelings are based are very different.

Feelings of patriotism are based on the positive values the country embraces—like freedom, justice, and equality. The patriot believes that both the system of government and the people of their country are inherently good and work together for a better quality of life

History had told us, Hitler openly proclaimed his racialism as nationalism in order to gain support/blind royalty/power with “you are either with me or against me (the nation)”, the poison indoctrinate of racialism as nationalism which lead Nazi to power and blinded the whole German Nation into world war II.

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-22 16:04 | Report Abuse

Non-white is trying to use China to show colors to the whites.

A must-see drama.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-22 16:15 | Report Abuse

https://youtu.be/Ifyz-GNKorU

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-22 16:32 | Report Abuse

Now playing the prickling bitcoin series. Helping the west by bringing e-miners back to physical workforce.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 12:43 | Report Abuse

wow, SSlee, one of the best piece I have read from a fellow traveler in the developing world.

The same message that CCP teaches its 100 million party members and 1.4 billion population.

for a better world

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-23 12:51 | Report Abuse

China did the right thing, by discouraging its citizens from buying into good for nothing cryto currencies that are use mainly for illegal activities mah!

Posted by stockfreak > Jun 22, 2021 4:32 PM | Report Abuse

Now playing the prickling bitcoin series. Helping the west by bringing e-miners back to physical workforce.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 12:57 | Report Abuse

Its a very good piece to read.

but this covers only half the story. The other half of the story is about humility. Once humility is lost, the peak is over. Like Emperor Chieng Long time.

But not to worry. Unless things go out of hand, out of control, Chinese still buying iphones, Tesla cars and what ever works. Still learning and still adapting to see to what works and can be adapted to China.

Nationalism and national pride yes, and sacrifices. China still aims to be an open society, open minded and learning. At least for next 20 -30 years that I can see.

Xi generation still admires western civilization in many ways., while recognizing its defects. His own daughter is educated in Harvard....China is in a very good situation , for now.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 13:01 | Report Abuse

stockfreak Now playing the prickling bitcoin series. Helping the west by bringing e-miners back to physical workforce.======


Once it is determined that bitcoins doing harm to environment, not really adding value to society, China is willing to let go of the mining profits and send them all to other countries willing to accept them.

This is rule by virtue.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 13:03 | Report Abuse

CCP has determined that bitcoin is a bubble that China wants no part.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 13:09 | Report Abuse

osted by DickyMe > Jun 22, 2021 2:05 PM | Report Abuse

Yes, undeniably Chinese are industrious and creative in their endeavour.

However, their arrogance and greed is nauseating. They want SLAVES not employees, to work for pittance. They do DISCRIMINATE and disrespect people.

Whatever great qualities they may have is nothing when mannerism and respect is absent."
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u need to learn how Huawei, tencent, Baidu treats their employess. U also need to learn how Chinese conglomerates all provides accommodations for the employees.

There is nothing unChinese about treating employees well. It all depends on prosperity or lack of it.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 13:11 | Report Abuse

things flow naturally based on the stage of development.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 13:20 |

Post removed.Why?

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-23 13:24 | Report Abuse

When you have the culture of scarified everthing to provide the best education (even oversea education) and to push our next generation to do better than the last. Be smarter. Be stronger. Be faster. Be more righteous. Be more pious. Be more innovative. Be more creative. Be richer. Be everything that you can be in this lifetime. That the formula for success and progress.

winterwolf

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Posted by winterwolf > 2021-06-23 14:45 | Report Abuse

With patriot like you, or as you define it, it is no wonder we have leaders ( I assume you are Malaysian) that are corrupted to the core....and still get away with it.

Truth and hard facts offended certain group, butt hurt until cannot differentiate what is nationalism, patriotism and reality.

Spare the rod and spoil the child, an adage applies to a nation too.

In China, all it cost is a bullet to end the vermin's life.

Posted by DickyMe > Jun 22, 2021 2:16 PM | Report Abuse

A patriot is one who is a hard line supporter of his birth nation, not one who talks proudly of other nation.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 14:58 | Report Abuse

it's too easy to throw mud at China but without any credible evidence... hats off to a Muslim, an Egyptian, fellow member of a developing country, fellow member of humanity to write such a penetrating article

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 14:59 | Report Abuse

it's of penetrating intelligence, knowledge, independence

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:17 | Report Abuse

Sslee, what u say about sacrifice and education is true but insuffient to prevent the century of humiliation nor ensure India success.

So environment and political leadership must be there.

Not united it's just like a hand full of sand... That is the situation of China before 1949

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:23 | Report Abuse

The role of the party is never expanded on outside China... It's limited to Deng saying let's be rich and China became rich.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:26 | Report Abuse

Mostly people idea is... Deng and capitalism, oppress it's own people easier to built roads.... Reality not like that.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:28 | Report Abuse

Why China succeeded while India could not is fascinating stuff.... The deeper one digs.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:29 | Report Abuse

Overseas Indians can match overseas Chinese in every field.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:39 | Report Abuse

Nation building is similar but not same as individuals

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:46 | Report Abuse

China knows how to do nation building but not given a chance until 1949

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 16:51 | Report Abuse

The essential elements of Confucians and Daodejing is about how to be a virtuous and moral emperor and model citizens.

Now the west tell u China success is because CCP oppresses it people. What nonsense

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-23 17:33 | Report Abuse

qqq3333 Why China succeeded while India could not is fascinating stuff.... The deeper one digs.
You just need to look at Kashmir to know why China succeeded while India could not.

https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Sslee_blog/2020-01-17-story-h1482808323-Communism_Communist_Party_of_China_Mandate_of_Heaven.jsp

The government of China officially espouses state atheism, though Chinese civilization has historically long been a cradle and host to a variety of the most enduring religio-philosophical traditions of the world. Confucianism and Taoism , later joined by Buddhism, constitute the "three teachings" that have shaped Chinese culture.

The emperors of China claimed the Mandate of Heaven and participated in Chinese religious practices. In the early 20th century, reform-minded officials and intellectuals attacked all religions as "superstitious", and since 1949, China has been governed by the Communist Party of China, an atheist institution that prohibits party members from practicing religion while in office.

The government formally recognizes five religions: Buddhism, Taoism, Catholicism, Protestanism, and Islam . In the early twenty-first century there has been increasing official recognition of Confucianism and Chinese folk religion as part of China's cultural inheritance.

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-23 17:41 | Report Abuse

In Malaysia, UMNO needs to demonize Chinese to gain the reward of easy 62% vote. Poor people will believe any excuses of why they are poor. Just that the 62% are now sliced into 3 pizzas. Thanks to Jho Low.

Sslee

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Posted by Sslee > 2021-06-23 18:04 | Report Abuse

UMNO is one problem the other is PAS.

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-23 18:18 | Report Abuse

As 62% are sliced into several chunks, Tun M (fox with horse disguise) said Chinese votes will be "造王者"。It's also dangerous to have a leader to see this so clearly and saying this has also another meaning, it like said "Watch out! UMNO! train wreck in front".

stockraider

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Posted by stockraider > 2021-06-23 19:21 | Report Abuse

These poor & unfortunate malays should wake up & stop being conned by the elites malay mah!

Posted by stockfreak > Jun 23, 2021 5:41 PM | Report Abuse

In Malaysia, UMNO needs to demonize Chinese to gain the reward of easy 62% vote. Poor people will believe any excuses of why they are poor. Just that the 62% are now sliced into 3 pizzas. Thanks to Jho Low.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 19:30 | Report Abuse

a lot of books already written about India vs China, how, why, predictions mostly written by Indians and whites.

Of course China also got its own interpretations.

me? I also got my own interpretations.

while
Overseas Indians can match overseas Chinese in every field.

India was never, is not and will never be a great nation..Western hopes of using India as a counter balance for the rise of China will only end in disappointment. Covid third wave makes this very clear. and Western nations beginning to re assess the viability of using India for that purpose.

qqq3333

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Posted by qqq3333 > 2021-06-23 19:36 | Report Abuse

malaysia?

malaysia is like China warring states period.

best is turn to laozi and ignore them.

stockfreak

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Posted by stockfreak > 2021-06-23 19:39 | Report Abuse

I don't have 2nd home to hide to practise Taoism.

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