Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 11:36 | Report Abuse

even if Toyota honda decides to pivot, they can't...............their problems starts with C.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 11:48 | Report Abuse

Honda depends on GM lol............ both also dying can save them meh?

VW depends on X Peng and SAIC to manufacture their cars and put their VW badges on their cars....VW smarter.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 11:48 |

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 11:49 | Report Abuse

even if Toyota honda decides to pivot, they can't...............their problems starts with C.

C stands for conservativism, fear of China, corruption and Carbon.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 11:52 | Report Abuse

EV God and his God Tony Seba can see the future.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 11:52 | Report Abuse

DETROIT — General Motors is raising its 2023 guidance for a second time this year after the automaker reported second-quarter results Tuesday that were up sharply year over year.

The Detroit automaker also said it is increasing cost-cutting measures through next year and now plans to reduce $3 billion in expenditures compared with previous guidance of $2 billion.


On an unadjusted basis, the company reported net income attributable to stockholders of $2.57 billion, or $1.83 per share, up nearly 52% from a year earlier when it earned $1.69 billion, or $1.14 per share.

Revenue during the quarter jumped 25% compared with $35.76 billion a year earlier.

For the full year, GM is raising its adjusted earnings expectations to a range of $12 billion to $14 billion, up from a previous range of $11 billion to $13 billion. GM also increased expectations for adjusted automotive free cash flow to a range of $7 billion to $9 billion, up from $5.5 billion to $7.5 billion, and for net income attributable to stockholders of $9.3 billion to $10.7 billion, compared with the previous outlook of $8.4 billion to $9.9 billion.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 11:54 |

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 12:05 | Report Abuse

so GM will keep selling ICE cars and pay Tesla/ Uncle Sam billions in compensation come 2027?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 12:06 | Report Abuse

makes more sense to close shop then pay those compensation.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 12:16 |

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 12:57 | Report Abuse

UlarSawa

GM will lobby the new President to postpone Biden policy after Biden lost the coming presidential election lah. Probably will spend billions to topple Biden lah. Haiyoh. Correct?
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that is the only thing that makes sense.


don't forget, the chip companies will also want Biden out as they lost so much sales in China

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 12:58 | Report Abuse

one thing people who are not EV God cannot understand is..........ice car is a car, EV is also a car............how come legacy companies cannot make money selling EV?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 13:00 | Report Abuse

.......ice car is a car, EV is also a car......

but what make Toyota Honda so successful previously also make them fail in new era.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 15:16 |

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 15:25 | Report Abuse

and that is the problem for them....................GM is still losing money on every EV sold. but told Biden they are ready. so, their own strategy all over the place. .................... EV God says they sure die.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 15:37 | Report Abuse

EV God says., in war, if your soldiers fight don't fight you sure lose............in this battle, if have to be like Cao cao, and sink the ships so your soldiers cannot retreat if u want to succeed.

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 15:38 | Report Abuse

EV God says., in war, if your soldiers fight don't fight you sure lose............in this battle, u have to be like Cao cao, and sink the ships so your soldiers cannot retreat if u want to succeed.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 15:49 | Report Abuse

GM Ford and all legacy companies are led by MBAs, Tesla, BYD and Chinese EV are led led by Cao Cao............. in the age of disruptions and S curves all the MBAs and many little Cao Caos will die and the survivors are Tesla , BYD and a few other Chinese EV..............China has 100 EV companies, by 2030 only a few will be left.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 15:57 | Report Abuse

in the age of disruptions and S curves all the MBAs and many little Cao Caos will die ..........

EV God says disruptions and S curve is real. Toyota says disruptions and S curve is not real.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:02 | Report Abuse

in the age of disruptions and S curves, technology innovations are happening very very fast.

customers tastes also changing very very fast..................only those who can burn their boats will survive.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:07 | Report Abuse

BYD has call on all Chinese EV makers to defeat the foreign brands. .... Toyota says that is being racists. ........... on weibo, Chinese users says that is nationalism not racists.

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:24 | Report Abuse

In this age of disruption the true winners are the consumers in developing countries. Soon they will get ev with 1000 km range and cheaper than Toyota Corolla

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:25 | Report Abuse

In China they are already ss batteries in cars, Toyota talking about 2028...EV god says Toyota is lying

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:26 | Report Abuse

And Toyota has been lying for years and years

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:29 | Report Abuse

On March 27, 2022, Li confirmed WeLion as Nio's semisolid-state battery supplier at a forum, saying the two plan to launch a hybrid solid-liquid electrolyte battery with a 1,000-kilometer range on a single charge, based on the ET7 model

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:30 | Report Abuse

Welion plans to be listed on nasdeq by q1 2024

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:39 | Report Abuse

In the age of disruption only the brave survive....the MBAs become useless

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:42 | Report Abuse

Then there are lobbyists who talk about flooding while China already having EV boats

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:44 | Report Abuse

And Tesla showing Tesla S as a submarine....

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 16:49 | Report Abuse

In China they are not just buying cars...they are buying iPhones on wheels.....not just in China but this consumer taste will spreading around the world that is where legacy companies strength become irrelevant.

Posted by UlarSawa > 2023-08-16 18:17 |

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 19:27 | Report Abuse

tesla also bankrupt years ago until new investors.....Nio same la.................middle east investor is the key

Posted by Income > 2023-08-16 20:09 | Report Abuse

many years pun still assumption stage lagi.
Nanti dah tua macam Dr. M… baru dapat Rm3.00

Posted by i3lurker > 2023-08-16 20:48 | Report Abuse

If you want proof, please move to YTLPower and dun come back until YTLPower already totally bankrupt.
Sure OTB will welcome you at YTLPower. 😁

Posted by Income > 2023-08-16 20:58 | Report Abuse

i3 lurker, is everything O touches is Syoi???


Posted by i3lurker > Aug 16, 2023 8:48 PM | Report Abuse

If you want proof, please move to YTLPower and dun come back until YTLPower already totally bankrupt.
Sure OTB will welcome you at YTLPower. 😁

Posted by i3lurker > 2023-08-16 21:06 | Report Abuse

He wants an apology so might as well carry out a scientific experiment 😴

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Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 22:43 | Report Abuse

Nio 9 - 15, 15-11 very normal. Good make money lousy lose money.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 22:52 | Report Abuse

Holding also can.....wait until chicken lay egg la

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 22:53 | Report Abuse

Middle east money 6 months cannot sell. Part of agreement

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-16 23:30 | Report Abuse

What is this otb marketing here?

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-17 00:14 | Report Abuse

This tik yok reminds me of the band in titanic playing music while the ship sinks.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-17 00:16 | Report Abuse

Building bigger and bigger cars ice cars while the earth sinks.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-17 00:17 | Report Abuse

The disruption and s curve will change all that.

Posted by qqq47660 > 2023-08-17 00:21 | Report Abuse

Vell fire RV and bigger and bigger SUV by GM and ford...this is last stage before the government steps in