The house said it is avoiding all names under its coverage, namely Hartalega Holdings Bhd (KL:HARTA) (underperform; target price or TP: RM2.33), Kossan Rubber Industries Bhd (KL:KOSSAN) (underperform; TP: RM1.48), Top Glove Corp Bhd (KL:TOPGLOV) (underperform; TP: 75 sen) and Supermax Corp Bhd (KL:SUPERMX) (underperform; TP: 83 sen).
KENANGA is your best friend I know. They always down play glove. By the way, the chart for 'DEMAND' does not account for Malaysia cut production capacity in 2023/24. Also other player like Thailand and China cutting production. Their valuation is the most ridiculous bcoz they don't take account on cash holding in Kossan and Hartalega.
@TaiMeiLi, 2025 is finally almost here, the supposed year where glove supply and demand equilibrium is expected to balance out.
@Chipee I'm not overly optimistic about the Aug QR though. Better be prepared for the worst, and hodl, better things will come. US election later this year could bring in some irrational buyers.
Yeah, This is for the long run. But I don't have Harta. I have Kossan.
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@Chipee I'm not overly optimistic about the Aug QR though. Better be prepared for the worst, and hodl, better things will come. US election later this year could bring in some irrational buyers.
Interesting that they actually went there and sighted the factories. But like what was mentioned in the article, no one knows what the China glovemaker's market strategy moving forward. Given that there's so much geopolitical uncertainty nowadays, i would think that playing it safe and building reserves is the way, but who knows, maybe they'll keep being aggresive and hope that they can expand + keep their current market share.
Intco ventures into Indonesia and so far the progress is good and Intco is optimistic. But some industry players foresee Intco will face challenges as many others encountered in Indo.
The only fear of China gloves is them undercutting in ASP. Lets think this logically.
TopGlove ASP is $17. Operational Loss Hartalega ASP is $21. Operational Loss Kossan ASP is $16. Operational Profit China ASP is $16. Operational Profit
Logic 1: Is China operation so cost effective and "special" that they are still in operational profit although selling at lower ASP? Answer is NO. If that is true, then Kossan should be in operation loss like other Msian gloves company. Since Kossan is making operational profit, this can only mean LOWER ASP are STEALING ORDERS from HIGHER ASP glove makers. Demand being limited, hitting the right volume will make operational profit. China "high tech" operation is NOTHING SPECIAL. Hartalega and Kossan have automation in their production. They are also very "high tech".
Logic 2: Can China expanded production capacity kills Msia glove makers by stealing orders with lower ASP? Answer is NO. Four biggest Msian glove companies had already cut production capacity in 2023/24 to reduce losses. So if China expand bigger, the higher FIXED COST will bring their operation to losses. Glove is a thin profit margin product. It's balance between ASP and VOLUME to be profitable. China cannot afford to lower their ASP further (Back to Logic 1: China "high tech" is not special).
Logic 3: Then why China expanded their production capacity? Bcoz of covid, ALL glove makers expanded their production capacity. China had zero-covid policy which extended the life of their expanded capacity. China will make losses if TopGlove and Hartalega lower their ASP to $16. This will easily kill of China glove makers. It is all about GETTING THE VOLUME ORDER or demand increases. If China is smart, they too should reduce production capacity (But apparently, they are not).
China only has ONE tactic ... throw price. But US tariff of 25% in 2026 will kill them. If Donald Trumps win, 60% tariff will definitely kill them and we don't need to wait until 2026. Lets hope Trump wins.
US market covers 30% of global glove demand. But higher tariff will improve Msia glove ASP significantly and GETTING 30% of the GLOBAL VOLUME ORDER. $16 x 1.25 = $20. Msia just need to sell at $19 to kick China's order out of US. China glove will definitely go into LOSSES with LOWER VOLUME.
As for 70% of the global market, Malaysia can just follow China's price to be competitive.
The biggest joke is Maybank analyst visited China production and got glittered eyes. They see touchscreen and "high tech" stuff and they lost their minds. Ridiculous ..... 😂
Negative reaction to dividend, surprising. I took it positively though, sending me positive signals that management is confident with their cash reserves.
China can beat apple , tesla elon musk , what difficult to beat malaysia peanut glove company ! Still dreaming in 2020 , that s y people call u glove tard !
Not big shot investor, just a lonnnnnnnnnng term investor and comfortable with the return so far...don't know why the naysayers still continue mentioning losses when the company is still kicking and alive as of to date
Boring same old same ...the big China....definitely they are the best of the best....but totally shooting down all the global competitors...is it possible? Simple as it is, you want to sell doesn't mean everybody will buy...like the US imposing tariff on China products....most important is how well the company withstand the challenge against them and surviving in the long term.
Gem in my tabung melabur only :) but maybe poison for others...it is up to all the intelligent investors to decide on their own investment, it is afterall their hard earned cash in their own pocket
A company established since 1988 surviving the up and down in the market till to date led by a family clan, doing a great job in ESG and CSR while at the same time rewarding the shareholders from time to time via dividend is a good deal for me the small potato long term investor :). Majority here are talking bout numbers, analysis and predictions on a company that is still very much kicking and alive ain't my cup of tea. I'm no tukang tilik or bomoh. Just follow up every now and then if there are any birdies news of the company touch wood goin down under or negative report on the accounts then it is a big news :>
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