MASTER-PACK GROUP BERHAD

KLSE (MYR): MASTER (7029)

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Last Price

4.05

Today's Change

0.00 (0.00%)

Day's Change

4.01 - 4.06

Trading Volume

44,200


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2,247 comment(s). Last comment by cynlucky23 3 weeks ago

Posted by Dato Seri John Lu > 2019-12-02 17:28 | Report Abuse

Pang72 sifu power

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-02 19:32 | Report Abuse

Thank you dato Seri!

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2019-12-02 19:40 | Report Abuse

Goreng saje. C who bought d highest

mrstrong

285 posts

Posted by mrstrong > 2019-12-02 19:51 | Report Abuse

The trends like last year dufu, from 1.00 to 4.00

pang72

48,959 posts

Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-03 09:50 | Report Abuse

Relax!!

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-03 10:44 | Report Abuse

Slowly la...

yorkyork

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Posted by yorkyork > 2019-12-03 16:10 | Report Abuse

Haha pphb up up 0.72 go go

laofuzi123

124 posts

Posted by laofuzi123 > 2019-12-03 16:55 | Report Abuse

Last minute 2k lot throw.. Lol seems can buy again later.

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-03 19:47 | Report Abuse

Just sit till rm4. 00...
Watch movie everyday

godcutwin

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Posted by godcutwin > 2019-12-03 21:04 | Report Abuse

still love this Master than other peers...lets see Q4 can hit new high revenue or not

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-03 22:05 | Report Abuse

Just hold tight tight.

WhiteWolf

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Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-03 22:06 | Report Abuse

Q4 encompasses major e-commerce events like Singles Day, Black Friday, Cyber Monday, 12.12, Christmas etc. If past quarters had better results QoQ , no reason why Q4 won't shine

It's exciting to think of PPHB growth will be the same like Master. But I prefer Master management. Can see on balance sheet that they take care of shareholders more. So even though more ex than PPHB, will stick with Master.

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-03 22:08 | Report Abuse

But then again..throw in a few lots for PPHB to see if it will rise as fast as Master also quite fun

bc8660

253 posts

Posted by bc8660 > 2019-12-03 23:25 | Report Abuse

Follow the historical track records that Q4 constantly shows more strong earning and thus I believe it will be same stellar performance in Q4.

We already seen the Vietnam facility start contributing profit in 2018 annual report and should also more visible contribution in 2019 financial year.

If they are doing good there than the future Master growth can be very significantly.

Jane86

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Posted by Jane86 > 2019-12-04 11:31 | Report Abuse

hi White wolf, do you mind to share where to check on balance sheet that mgmt take care of shareholders more?

PH777

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Posted by PH777 > 2019-12-04 14:01 | Report Abuse

Master is serving F&B sectors!
Market trends now are;
FoodPanda,
GRABFood,
DAHmakan ,
Honestbee,
QuickSent,
RunningMan,
Delivery Monster,
FoodLab Express,
DeliverEat,
Domino Pizza.......etc.

laofuzi123

124 posts

Posted by laofuzi123 > 2019-12-04 14:12 | Report Abuse

Please talk and provide proof.. Don't just simply say. If newbie saw this the order pizza with master and come with wood pulp. Hows funny will that be :P

laofuzi123

124 posts

Posted by laofuzi123 > 2019-12-04 14:47 | Report Abuse

Big fund want money don't want ticket...
Thanks ph777

Posted by richard kh wong > 2019-12-04 15:00 | Report Abuse

Can collect at 2.48? ............

laofuzi123

124 posts

Posted by laofuzi123 > 2019-12-04 15:41 | Report Abuse

2.49 is last resistance now become support.

bc8660

253 posts

Posted by bc8660 > 2019-12-04 18:40 | Report Abuse

We can't control the market sentiment especially those influenced from US market but strong believe that long term investor will get rewarded better in Master then people who trading in and out.

We can seen similar several consolidation happened in the past after price spike up then it's resume again after flushing out contra players. So this would only impact to short term speculators and create buying opportunity for real investors.

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-04 22:15 | Report Abuse

Tomorrow another super glory day.... after 2 days correction!

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-04 22:16 | Report Abuse

Those who miss to collect..

You are missed again!

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-04 23:56 | Report Abuse

Hi Jane86,

My sifu always goreng me to look at numbers and imagine what stories they tell. Yes, its all my own interpretations; however if many of the pieces seem to fit together, then higher chances that the pieces fit together.

If I am wrong, I am open to others pointing it out and making me a better investor. So here goes...

1. Master has consistently been issuing dividends the past 9 years. The last time PPHB issued dividend was in 2010. Yes although Master dividend is nothing to shout about, perception matters

2. TTM Total Cash & Cash Equivalents. Master is almost half that of PPHB, yet Master still find ways to reward shareholders with a dividend

3. TTM Account Receivables for PPHB is 10m more than Master, even though both recorded almost identical amounts of revenue. Master better at ensuring revenue gets banked in accordingly? Or is this just the industry standard? Anyways the better a business is run, is in best interest of shareholders

4. TTM Retained Earnings. PPHB almost 4x more than Master. Cross-reference this to point 2 above. So this means not only does PPHB has much higher retained earnings AND they are sitting on pile of cash more than Master. Yet...Master pays dividends

5. From 2018 Annual Reports, PPHB paid its directors/key management 7m vs Master of around 3m (I hope I read this right). Just looking at it on face value, PPHB more keen to reward its management vs its shareholders

6. Which management is better serving its shareholders? If refer to ROE, the answer is also...Master.

Not saying PPHB is a bad choice though. You go to PPHB forum, better sifus there can give shorter, numbers-driven reasons why is a good investment. Also I agree that PPHB was investing heavily in expansion. I just like to look at the data and tell myself a good story why Master is a better choice.

Have fun!

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-05 08:10 | Report Abuse

Sharing about Master. Their Quadwall patent details below. These fellas are really serious about building cardboard boxes lo

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8652613B2/en
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/83/32/9e/e2ba603db91329/US8652613.pdf

Seems like their patent extends until 2031. Hope this plays out financially for Master

bc8660

253 posts

Posted by bc8660 > 2019-12-05 09:38 | Report Abuse

Thanks for sharing this patent information.

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-05 11:29 | Report Abuse

Welcome. Very interesting to invest in a sound company and continue to dig for more useful info.

Wonder if anyone has insider info on how well their factories/production lines are being utilised (local and in Vietnam)? Whether can take on more growth that seems to be incoming for next 2 years.

pang72

48,959 posts

Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-05 19:01 | Report Abuse

pang72 Tomorrow another super glory day.... after 2 days correction!
04/12/2019 10:15 PM
X
pang72 Those who miss to collect..

You are missed again!
04/12/2019 10:16 PM

DON'T REPEAT THE MISTSKE OF NOT BUYING!

probability

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Posted by probability > 2019-12-05 19:06 | Report Abuse

Just look at their phenomenal revenue growth year after year...

Posted by WhiteWolf > Dec 5, 2019 8:10 AM | Report Abuse

Sharing about Master. Their Quadwall patent details below. These fellas are really serious about building cardboard boxes lo

https://patents.google.com/patent/US8652613B2/en
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/83/32/9e/e2ba603db91329/US...

Seems like their patent extends until 2031. Hope this plays out financially for Master

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-05 19:14 | Report Abuse

Probability yes that is very clear. So now just wondering if this type of growth can continue and sustain or not.

The variables are:
1. Market demand will slow down (a bit unlikely, as e-commerce booming)
2. Master Mgmt commit suicide and decide to venture into non-relevant business (Dear god pls no)
3. Production line fully utilised. Want to make more also cannot. Cannot meet demand (good problem but a problem nevertheless)

Interesting times...

probability

14,419 posts

Posted by probability > 2019-12-05 19:19 | Report Abuse

on point no.3, it wouldn't take long for them to make new lines provided demand is there...

on demand ..i think its all about capturing new market share..and they have the competitive advantage to do that

WhiteWolf

51 posts

Posted by WhiteWolf > 2019-12-05 22:42 | Report Abuse

True. If 2020 can sustain another 40%+ growth, then really fatt tatt lo

Must dig more to understand if that is even possible. Do they have the capacity to meet the demands of that kind of demand growth.

Something to ask in their AGM next year.

Jane86

6 posts

Posted by Jane86 > 2019-12-06 14:27 | Report Abuse

hi WhiteWolf, very informative for newbie like me. now I really need time to dig deeper in balance sheet like you did.

Jane86

6 posts

Posted by Jane86 > 2019-12-06 14:29 | Report Abuse

btw, nice comparison btwn master and pphb. Now I know how to compare master with its peers. and I do love master more. hope it will declare dividend soon

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-08 01:04 | Report Abuse

.... It should continue to raise higher n higher....

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-08 01:05 | Report Abuse

I really like this consolidation...
It is good to rest for week or 2..

pang72

48,959 posts

Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-08 01:06 | Report Abuse

Short term traders will out...
Investors will hold for biggest fruit...

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2019-12-10 10:21 | Report Abuse

bought in 2.5475

pang72

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Posted by pang72 > 2019-12-10 10:33 | Report Abuse

Thank you master sifu...
Bye bye!!

laofuzi123

124 posts

Posted by laofuzi123 > 2019-12-10 12:41 | Report Abuse

This operator not power enough. Can't break 2.5 haha pls throw more

PH777

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Posted by PH777 > 2019-12-10 13:50 | Report Abuse

Pang72 already Bye Bye?

lmy059c

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Posted by lmy059c > 2019-12-10 14:53 | Report Abuse

Master is only down but not yet out. Hope it will make a spectacular oomeback very very soon.....

Posted by Jason Lim > 2019-12-10 15:23 | Report Abuse

pang byebye rm3? so fast? push up just to take profit run? haihhh push to rm3 then rm4 mah...wheres the optimism you had

MingGoon

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Posted by MingGoon > 2019-12-10 15:47 | Report Abuse

Dato Seri Khor Teng Thong has been disposing his shareholding in Master since Nov 2019.
That could be one of the reason why Master has been dropping to 2.51, and will keep on dropping, is that the reason, or any other reason ? ...

Wow, a lot of profit done in....
What is all your thought....

MingGoon

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Posted by MingGoon > 2019-12-10 15:48 | Report Abuse

Throw in Master, and exchange with Revenue...
Revenue is buying in a good growth company , a future cashless society that we will all live in.

Revenue now is like Penta last time, where people who collected Penta, now are laughing to the bank...

AlibabaInf

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Posted by AlibabaInf > 2019-12-10 16:20 | Report Abuse

run for life drop back rm0.80

AlibabaInf

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Posted by AlibabaInf > 2019-12-10 16:21 | Report Abuse

pang72 is big shark lure u all in he will sell slow slow

gemfinder

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Posted by gemfinder > 2019-12-10 17:05 | Report Abuse

topline and bottom line stil increase... material cost stil at lowest end... operating in good environment.... not yet gameover…….. watch for next wave

bc8660

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Posted by bc8660 > 2019-12-10 19:00 | Report Abuse

By reviewing stock performance in klsescreener, you would noticed that Master is one of the stock to hits all kpi or earning growth indicators. Very hard to find similar one and no idea why people want let go this supper growth stock.

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