Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-19 22:59 | Report Abuse

Although you have right to comment whatever y
ou want, nobody force you to invest in revenue.

You can go invest in puc or wait for the brent to rebound only then go into the o&g. From the way you commented and deleted your comment, perhaps Fixed deposit is thd best investment for you. You are picking the wrong industry to invest and avoiding the right industry to invest. Brent dropping and u following o&g counter, trade war and declining order yet u still follow industrial counter.

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-19 23:17 | Report Abuse

I rmb some idiot commented even free warrant also wont invest, this show how ignorant this person's understanding how the market/warrant play. Season player or so-called expert would have acted yesterday, and they did. Perhaps you need to change to real expert of stock market and not half passed 6 expert. 0.7 possible.... 3.00 possible... why dont you go temple and ask god give you toto number, statistically, u have higher chance of getting better return from toto than stock market.

Posted by loonginv > 2018-12-19 23:34 | Report Abuse

what happened here??? seems like someone had make stupidity comment ka

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-19 23:58 | Report Abuse

在明年的一月3号前、如果您持有revenue的母股，您将会以每两母股，获得一张免费的warrant。但如果您在一月4号才购买母股，您将不会获得warrant。

至于是否变卖或换母股，这将要看母股的走势，现在很难说，这是2-3年的事了。

Posted by milodrinker > 2018-12-20 07:45 | Report Abuse

Yap jh, 说的好，给你十个like

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2018-12-20 11:05 | Report Abuse

from many of the bonus for mother share or free warrant, the mother and warrant share price will drop a lot after 2-3 weeks of warrant listing. Too risk to hold. May consider to buy back after 2 months.

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-20 13:33 | Report Abuse

I'm really confused whether you are a short term investor or long term investor. You sounded like very contradicting yourself.

Majority of the warrants will cause the mother share to drop, because it is cheaper to trade the warrant. That is where the seasoned investors/players will start to trade the warrants and that is the norm. Just for your info, even when a company declare dividend, the share price will also drop after the entitlement day, will you go complain and stop the company paying dividend? Chances are you won't because you gotten the cash upfront already, in a way, you are compensated by that cash for the drop in the share price, the share price already factored in that dividend. So many people will sell the shares after the entitlement date.

But on the company's perspective, giving a dividend will deplete the company of cash for expansion, operating expenses etc. My personal view is that company shouldnt give dividend if they are expending. It cause the share price to drop and caused the net asset to drop. Having a warrant may or may not work in favour for the company, but at least the company can conserve the existing cash to do expansion and it may give fresh capital to the company if warrant is being exercised.

If you look at the exercise price of 1.25, that itself more or less set the mark for the mother share, so when warrants list, and when mother share hit any price below 1.25 will make the warrant even cheaper. So seasoned trader/player/investor will accumulate more, and that is normally how it works and that is the norm. Once collection done, mother share will be pushed up so that they can sell the warrants at a higher price. After that they will repeat and repeat and repeat and repeat. If you are savy and long term investor, you would have entered on Tuesday to accumulate the mother share because that is where you will be able to accumulate below 1.28 price range. That is where you will get more bargain. For those wanted to continue accumulate the free warrants, now they will have to start buying at higher price because of supply. But overall, high price doesnt mean a bad things because they would have calculated their average entry cost.

Once again, this is not a buy or sell call. I respect one freedom to express their own view in this forum, but just do not wish to see people give comment that is non-constructive and does not explain in details and cause the general public to become panic. Even if you want to warn the public with the good intention, should explain with facts or example, like mother share drop after warrant list is a common fact, but one need to explain how the market works. You can't force your own investment strategies onto other by merely giving some general statements.

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-20 14:26 | Report Abuse

Forgotten to mention, mother share price will drop is also due to price adjustment. Theorectical price. You can google it and read how it works.

Posted by samhappy188 > 2018-12-20 14:31 | Report Abuse

Yap JH谢谢你

Posted by 1099133743600537 > 2018-12-20 15:21 | Report Abuse

queuing at 1.2...............

Posted by Moc Nokin > 2018-12-20 16:11 | Report Abuse

YapJH, you’re the best! I always buy and hold REVENUE share.

Posted by 1099133743600537 > 2018-12-21 00:10 | Report Abuse

is it worth it to buy at its current price right now?

Posted by KiraL > 2018-12-21 08:12 | Report Abuse

Buy buy buy... uptrend coming!

Posted by 817065 > 2018-12-21 10:58 | Report Abuse

If you want to invest in Revenue, it's better to buy now and get its warrants as well.The warrants will be very valuable as Revenue is a high growth company and warrants of high growth companies will be well demanded as they offer a cheap entry price into the company.

Posted by VvinctLGC > 2018-12-21 15:46 | Report Abuse

Yap JH, thanks for the details. Thumbs up for u.

Posted by newbie trader > 2018-12-22 11:29 | Report Abuse

有点不明白ex date和entitlement date，比如他的exdate是4 Jan，entitlement date是8 Jan，如果我拥有然后在3Jan卖掉的话我还可以得到free warrant吗？还是要持到8Jan才可以得到？

Posted by MengYew > 2018-12-22 11:59 | Report Abuse

Any disposal of holding before ex-date is not entitle to any dividend or warrants.

Posted by omgimnoob > 2018-12-22 13:50 | Report Abuse

Malaysia internet infrastructure is very weak. I use Boost to pay is even slower than cash. Digi maxis celcom are the same shit. People will not change to a more complicated payment method. A lot of merchant do not even know how to operate the e wallet payment process. Cashless society is still far away! Please wake up!

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-22 13:56 | Report Abuse

8号entitlement date的意思，您的名字必须出现在8号股东list，那您才会获得免费warrant。

如果您现在没有revenue的股，而您却想要warrant，您必须最迟在3号或之前买入母股。您有3天的时间去settle，（T+3），4号，7号及8号（包括8号在内）。

4号之后您可以卖母股，或也可以收着观察母股在warrant list 了之后的走势。一般过了ex-date（4号），母股会有被抛售的趋势。

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-22 14:03 | Report Abuse

Editing previous comment, remove unnecessary info.

Market forces are beyond our control. As a public investor, unless you have insider info, it is almost impossible for one to really make money just based on superficial information. Our share market is not a perfect market, like it or not.

Remember, all investment come with a risk, you need to know what is your risk level. Do not make any decision beyond our own means.

Personally, if i’m a long term investor, i will go into the market now to take advantage of the free warrant. But you have to take note of the uptrend of the current share price till ex-date. As mentioned in my previous comment, whoever still want the free warrants would have to buy at higher price (more and more expensive), as the cheap supply have been vacuumed on tuesday. Now they have no choice but to buy at higher price, so from now till ex-date, there is a strong possibility that the mother share will be on an uptrend and it is evident from the last few days trading. But those who want the free warrants would have factored that in their entry price.

You have to be very careful of the ex-date, there is a high possibility that on the ex-date and post ex-date, the mother share will be subject to heavy selling pressure up till the listinf of warrants, that is one possible scenario.

So if you are only tracking the mother share, one way is to get the free warrant now, then wait for those seasoned investor/traders to push mother share to get maximum value of the warrants, then you cash out. If you have the holding power, then you could also keep the warrant and sell it later. Based on the circular (although the fair value have changed, it does have a fair value of 0.50 n above). Another way is wait after the ex-date, then you enter and buy the mother share only.

But you also have to remember revenue does not have a dividend policy, so even if you hold long term and do not cash out, you will only have paper gain.

Posted by R Saleh > 2018-12-22 14:21 | Report Abuse

revenue grp giving reveue ha ha

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-22 16:58 | Report Abuse

如果您在3号的时候卖了您的股，您将不会获得free warrant。就算您在4号当天买，您也不会获得free warrant.

Posted by candy88 > 2018-12-22 16:58 |

Post removed.Why?

Posted by newbie trader > 2018-12-23 21:14 | Report Abuse

就是说只要我在exdate之前买进，然后exdate过后卖出不必持到entitlement date也可以得到warrant?

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-23 22:55 | Report Abuse

是的。您不妨上网查询ex-date。investopedia 有很不错的讲解，而且是免费的。

但您必须了解，过了ex-date，母股可能会遭受到卖出的压力，所以股价不一定会很好。也有可能母股会一直维持在现有或更高的价位，直到warrant list 了之后，到时候warrant会比较值钱。但这一切需看母股的走势，warrant list 了之后，warrant 和母股应该都会被追。这几天有买入free warrant 的趋势。

Posted by MengYew > 2018-12-23 22:58 | Report Abuse

Any sales on ex-date would still entitle to the corporation action

Posted by newbie trader > 2018-12-23 23:06 | Report Abuse

大概明白了，谢谢大家大方及详细的解释，感恩

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-23 23:18 | Report Abuse

对不起，应该说“过去的几天有买入free warrant 的迹象和趋势”。未来这几天就得看还会有人要free warrant。

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2018-12-24 11:22 | Report Abuse

Again, the mother and warrant may drop after 1 to 2 weeks of warrant lisitng. There might not be reasons for the drip because this is trend of share movement after bonus issued in 2018 and will be the same for 2019. Partly because mother share already pushed up since announcement made until now. About > 30%. Be realistic, not over optimistic. Today news or analysts may say good but tomorrow may be different story.
I didn't own this share but not plan to own unless the PE drop to 15. Else i rather choose others which may have similar potential or better than Revenue. PE 15, i will buy in.

Posted by 817065 > 2018-12-24 11:46 | Report Abuse

Based on purely on PE ratio, then Revenue should trade at a higher price than GHLSYS..... now it's lower than Ghlsys.

Posted by YapJH > 2018-12-24 12:23 | Report Abuse

What you learn from school may not necessary apply in the real world. Like i mention, our market is not a perfect market. Google it and read what it means.

PE15... then you have to be more realistic in your investment strategy in this counter. The possibility to have it to happen:
(1) the market have to suffer extreme bear run to bring the price down, but then, whatever other counters you invested will suffer the same unless you pick defensive stock.
(2) revenue financial performance have to be super bad, then it will bring down the price and eps.

Please read their propsectus and understand at what PE revenue listed. You are showing us you do not research before you invest and purely following hearsay and gut feel if you want it to go back to PE15. That is very dangerous when come to investing. Also try to research and understand what PE really means...

I cant deny the warrant and mother share will subject to up/down movement after the listing of warrant, but you have to understand why and how the market operate... not just make general statement. There is a strategy (or rather formula) that deployed by seasoned investors/traders/players to make money from the warrants and also mother share.

You have missed the boat from the time they announce the price and entitlement date, as i mentioned in various comments before, you will get cheap price from the earlier time, as time goes by until the ex-date, the price will get expensive because cheap supply all gone. Can you explain why the price is still on the uptrend? Did you know this trend based on your understanding? So if you have understand how the market works (not just based on the trend after listing of warrant), you would have pocketed some handsome returns just riding on this simple wave. From 1.28 to 1.38 range.

Anyway, everyone has their own investment strategy, ultimately, when you make money you wont thank me. When you loss money, you will blame the sky, the earth, the water, your friends’ face, except yourself... but please do research before you invest and do not invest beyond our own means.

Posted by milodrinker > 2018-12-24 12:42 | Report Abuse

I never ever trade share based on news or analyst , if u wan to listen to them then I think u should put ur money into FD better !! Recommendations from news or analyst always work on opposite way!!!

Posted by milodrinker > 2018-12-24 12:47 | Report Abuse

U will never outperform the market if u listen to them !!! Buy a company with only pe 15 but the share price keep on dropping ,buy for what ? Go deposit ur money into rhb ,存定定，easier !!!

Posted by 817065 > 2018-12-24 13:01 | Report Abuse

Low PE usually means there's something wrong with the company. That's why the PE is so low....because nobody wants to buy it.

Posted by yonexitem > 2018-12-24 13:15 | Report Abuse

99% of Yu_and_Mee's comments are negative, haha. Most of the tech stocks have high PE.

Posted by cytew > 2018-12-25 21:38 | Report Abuse

#凭单如渔网

#公司要在最策略性时刻发送方能为股东们带来最好的回酬。

70年代初，常在学校假期间和父亲出海捕鱼。在这段学习捕鱼的生涯里，发现到渔夫能否有丰富的鱼获，关键在放网的时刻,最佳放网的时刻是在即将转潮 (从退转涨，或涨转退) 之时，一天退涨潮各有两次。挂牌公司老板就如渔夫，凭单 (warrant) 有如渔网，要在公司即将成长 (growth, meaning is change of tide) 之际发送给股东，方能为股东们带来最好的回酬。

Posted by cytew > 2018-12-25 21:45 | Report Abuse

一间挂牌公司，要在什么时候发送凭单(Warrant) ，才能为股东带来最大的好处呢 ？这是老板们都想知道的事。

最佳发送凭单给股东的 “天时” ，就是当公司正处于即将高速成长之际，当今最好的例子，就是 Revenue (0200) 和 Wegmans (0197)。 这两家刚挂牌不久的公司，目前正处于即将高速成长期，庆幸的是有智慧的老板，都在高人的指点下，在此时发送凭单给股东们。

对于另一家公司， OWG (5260) 也刚刚发送凭单给股东，其效果应该不大，因为其业务每况愈下，也就是说，现在 “天时” 不与它也，因此其凭单将不会为股东们带来多大的好处呢。

Posted by Livermore > 2018-12-25 21:48 | Report Abuse

be careful...it going to collapse soon

Posted by milodrinker > 2018-12-25 21:52 | Report Abuse

Livermore, please explain why it going to collapse soon

Posted by mando > 2018-12-25 22:45 | Report Abuse

Get ready for a stock market crash in 2019
https://www.intertrader.com/eu/blog/get-ready-for-a-stock-market-crash-in-2019/

Posted by trap666 > 2018-12-27 09:20 | Report Abuse

can reach 1.5 mou ???

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2018-12-27 17:33 | Report Abuse

Cytew, that's what i tried to tell them. After bpnus, watch out.

Posted by Yu_and_Mee > 2018-12-27 17:34 | Report Abuse

PE15 is good entry, 1.50 too much higher already

Posted by milodrinker > 2018-12-27 17:36 | Report Abuse

Pe15 ?? Lolx my goodness

Posted by VvinctLGC > 2018-12-28 13:25 | Report Abuse

Milo, wat dose it means of PE?

Posted by 817065 > 2018-12-28 14:40 | Report Abuse

For long term investors, its much better to buy before ex- warrants date.

Posted by trap666 > 2018-12-31 12:39 | Report Abuse

run lo ~~~~

Posted by Moc Nokin > 2018-12-31 12:53 | Report Abuse

Go for fireworks 2019 ~
Enjoy!

Posted by Moc Nokin > 2018-12-31 16:32 | Report Abuse

Happy New Year 2019!!
Tomorrow happy holiday~
Great mood and happy!

Posted by fauzi > 2019-01-01 13:19 | Report Abuse

revenue monster app