Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-04 20:58 | Report Abuse

I am starting this portfolio with RM100,000. Will close the book by end 2016

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23 comment(s). Last comment by korek2 2019-04-29 22:15

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-04 20:59 | Report Abuse

Wah, after lose 11% still wanna trade ah

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-04 21:00 | Report Abuse

Bought 350,000 Airasia-C30 at 28.5 sen

350,000 x RM0.285 = RM99,750.

Cash in hand = RM250

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-04 21:38 | Report Abuse

Ini main main lousy portfolio.

soros228

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Posted by soros228 > 2016-05-04 21:45 | Report Abuse

Icon8888, what is c-30? Can u enlighten me ah?

Posted by shortinvestor77 > 2016-05-04 21:45 | Report Abuse

Sell your car, sell your house, sell yourself, all in to buy airasia.

soros228

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Posted by soros228 > 2016-05-04 21:49 | Report Abuse

Thanks Icon8888. Sorry for asking very naive question.

Ricky Kiat

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Posted by Ricky Kiat > 2016-05-04 21:51 | Report Abuse

some risk , but really big potential gain...seven month ...worth try...

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-04 22:55 | Report Abuse

Great! Mr Icon, we all know this is main main portfolio, but it is still good to give us something to think of. Lose also never mind, try something that we will never try in real life.

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-04 22:57 | Report Abuse

Sorry to ask, is that mean 2 unit Airasia-C30 + RM1.58 = 1 unit Airasia?

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-04 22:59 | Report Abuse

Ya

moneySIFU

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Posted by moneySIFU > 2016-05-04 23:00 | Report Abuse

Thanks a lot.

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-04 23:00 | Report Abuse

7months all flush toilet! As call warrant easy manipulated

Koon Bee

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Posted by Koon Bee > 2016-05-04 23:11 | Report Abuse

Good bet...better than SPG - pa

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-05-29 07:56 | Report Abuse

My Air Asia C30 has increased from 28.5 sen to 46 sen

Portfolio increased from RM100,000 to RM161,000 within 4 weeks, a return of 61%

Icon8888
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Posted by Icon8888 > May 4, 2016 09:00 PM | Report Abuse X

Bought 350,000 Airasia-C30 at 28.5 sen

350,000 x RM0.285 = RM99,750.

Cash in hand = RM250

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-29 10:30 | Report Abuse

Play play portfolio only.

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-05-29 10:30 | Report Abuse

After losing 8% still wanna brag, trying to take some credit.

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-06-07 01:37 | Report Abuse

My Air Asia C30 has increased from 28.5 sen to 53 sen

Portfolio increased from RM100,000 to RM185,000, a return of 85%


Posted by Icon8888 > May 4, 2016 09:00 PM | Report Abuse X

Bought 350,000 Airasia-C30 at 28.5 sen

350,000 x RM0.285 = RM99,750.

Cash in hand = RM250

Icon8888

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Posted by Icon8888 > 2016-06-07 01:40 | Report Abuse

The reason I set up this portfolio is to demonstrate how small portfolio can churn out super high return by agressive stock picking

The return generated by this portfolio cannot be achieved by huge portfolio

Huge portfolio needs to diversify

VenFx

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Posted by VenFx > 2016-06-07 02:22 | Report Abuse

Icon8888 is a real Dr. Stockfolio .
Glad to see your enthusiastic in stock and lively sharing.
Your unselfish sharing has benefited me.

paperplane2016

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Posted by paperplane2016 > 2016-06-07 07:12 | Report Abuse

Ini main main one, real life where got ppl invest like this. 100k can flush toilet easily, this stupid really teach ppl go holland.

Posted by (2.6m shares buyback April ) Philip > 2019-04-26 06:25 | Report Abuse

When you go and buy a bottle of beer the price is RM10. When you go and buy 10 crates of beer the price do you think will be RM10 each as well? Obviously not. There are many intricacies to buying stocks, most importantly patience, discipline and consistency.

In this case, one must stay invested in the stock market to gain the 100k in the first place ( or make a lot of money elsewhere). Speculating in this manner (call it what it is) is insane and a crazy way to introduce new investors to a high risk form of speculation.

Putting 99% of net worth in a warrant gives you added complexity. On top of needing to understand how the company will work out in the long term, you also need to understand the momentum of the warrant. People who buy needs to understand the time value of the warrant, what is the market Volume, the market volatility and most of all the RISK involved.

That will determine everything.

If you take it theoretically ( for me it became a painful reality),

If you had 10 years of 85% portfolio growth, then followed by just 2 year of 85% losses, you would basically have burnt all your profits in one sweep. Very stressful way of "investing".

You need to understand risk. Especially if you don't get to enjoy dividends.

Having said that options ( warrants) trading is a very good tool for making short term money, if you accept it is a trading and speculating method.

I have friends who do this on a daily basis and they have a great career.

They would however put capital risk protection as their first and foremost mechanism. No trade should be more than 5% of their capital invested, as the example I gave was what really happened. They would hold 35-40 stock options and warrants so losses are tempered by gains, not the other way around.

Safety first.

Derivatives have always been a weapon of mass financial destruction.

The best method is always to build up a position in a growing good company slowly, building up your confidence in knowledge and understand the competitive advantage as you go along. When you are able to recognize the difference between permanent loss of business advantage and capability and a temporary problem in the market, a slowly profitable 15% consistently over a long time with added dividends is far more preferable, especially when sleeping at night becomes a priority.

korek2

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Posted by korek2 > 2019-04-29 22:15 | Report Abuse

Philip, can I get your view on upcoming IPO Leong Hup which will be listed at PER 20X historical earnings FY2017? Will it have chance to get valuation like QL? Worth applying its IPO?

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