Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:07 | Report Abuse

I pray our Abang Besar KJ will be innovative enough like Bang Joko n

declare we all can use all old antivirals n drugs to fight c 19 !!!

Give ALL the tools to our Drs to fight with c 19 pandemic even though WHO

no got recommend those tools !!!

DRs are the experts to fight with c 19. Please, no restrict their

discretion n expertise.

WE cannot just depend on vaccination onli. We all MUST do MORE !!!

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:15 | Report Abuse

good vaccine + tight restrictions/sop + good antiviral drug

plus some good immune building supplements also, e.g. mengkudu, vco/kelapa muda, pau d'arco, pomegranate juice, aronia/black chokeberry (difficult to get, this one) etc.

that is our hope for defeating covid, I believe

we need them all

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:17 | Report Abuse

Pharma businessman no recommend existing medicines to treat c 19 bcos

they cannot make massive profit from them ?

They want to make new medicines, patent them n sell them at sky high

prices to corn our hard earn moni like the experimental vaccines !

No one got know what are the long term effects of these vaccines ?

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:21 | Report Abuse

tobby, if you don't trust indonesia data, then at least trust singapore data la

singapore just hit record high 2,909 daily cases on friday 1 october 2921, despite 85% vaccination rate

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:25 | Report Abuse

so, tobby, you reckon msia kabinet gagal #2 can do voodoo magic & bring down daily infection rate sustainably while completely opening up & loosening up geh

just simply with high vaccination rate only geh, without needing to keep restrictions & tight sop geh

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by Tobby > Oct 3, 2021 12:48 PM | Report Abuse

Having said that, Covid pandemic has been super expensive! Brought total damage to global economy too!

The c 19 pandemic is super expensive bcos the pharma businessman no

recommend existing antivirals / medicines to treat c 19. They onli

recommend the new experimental vaccines to fight c 19 n of course they

make tons of moni from the vaccines !!!

Mani poor countries in Africa, South America, Indonesia use old n chip

medicines to fight c 19 n they win !!!

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:33 | Report Abuse

tobby, 'success in achieving high vaccination rate' is not necessarily equal to 'success in achieving low covid infection rate'

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:34 | Report Abuse

Please also trust our very own data. Sarawak n Selangor got very high

vaccination rates but they also got high number of c 19 cases.

Beside vaccination, we all got to do more lah even without the

recommendations of the pharmacy ind. / WHO.

Our Abang Besar oredi yesterday got set the direction right. Please do

more even without the recommendation of WHO !

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:40 | Report Abuse

Abang Besar KJ, how about giving to all Malaysians a MEDICAL KIT to fight

c 19 ? Thanks.

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:41 | Report Abuse

tobby, you're just fanatically obssessed with sheer vaccination rate

you need to look more at the actual covid daily infection rate, which is a more accurate indicator of how a country's covid issue is being managed

australia for example has only a 55% vaccination rate, but their covid daily infection rate is 15 times lower than malaysia

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:58 | Report Abuse

tobby also seems to be a fanatical worshipper of kj

maybe kj is now tobby's god in his personal shrine

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 14:20 | Report Abuse

Two of the world's major health organisations disagree on mask wearing. The World Health Organisation (WHO) currently discourages mask use:

There is currently no evidence that wearing a mask (whether medical or other types) by healthy persons in the wider community setting, including universal community masking, can prevent them from infection with respiratory viruses, including COVID-19.

WHO does recommend special masks (N95 masks or equivalent) plus other protection for health-care workers working with people who have, or are suspected to have, COVID-19.

By contrast, the Centres for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in the United States has recently recommended everyone wear a (cloth) mask. However, this is to prevent infected people passing on the infection, not to prevent the wearer getting infected.

https://www.sciencealert.com/this-is-why-advice-on-whether-you-should-wear-a-mask-is-just-so-confusing#:~:text=The%20World%20Health%20Organisation%20%28WHO%29%20currently%20discourages%20mask,them%20from%20infection%20with%20respiratory%20viruses%2C%20including%20COVID-19.

WHO n CDC ... see how smart are they ???

Posted by winterwolf > 2021-10-03 14:37 | Report Abuse

Between March 2020 till April 2021...13 months and less than 1000 deaths.

Between May 2021 till 30th September 2021, within 4 months and the total deaths jumped to 26000+ in total.

Sing your praises to those soul that died suffocating ? A job well done ? I reserve my judgement.

Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 14:39 | Report Abuse

Winterwolf! True! Based on facts! I am not going to deny that!

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 15:41 | Report Abuse

In the beginning, who cause the spread of c 19 by discouraging the use of

masks ?

Posted by chinaman > 2021-10-03 15:45 | Report Abuse

we worship KUI LOR. KUI LOR WHO said no need mask, we follow blindly.... whatever China comment, we ostracised, dont want to follow. for e.g. RTK mass testing, our health DG said doubt of its efficacy. only lately we allow self testing kit.

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 15:51 | Report Abuse

Soumya: That's right. Because with a vaccine you can achieve immunity and herd immunity safely.

Through natural infection, we could also achieve it at some point, but it would be at great human cost. And so naturally, the better choice is doing it through a vaccine.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/media-resources/science-in-5/episode-1

With the vaccination on, who got herd immunity safely ? Who said this ?

Posted by chinaman > 2021-10-03 15:52 | Report Abuse

old name: ivermectin, for lembu, kuda only-so, NO for human...what if they just changed name, do some modification- then resell as premium drug by Merc, we said - wonder drug....so, we buy 10x more expensive....who knows? wakaka.....KUI LOR very tricky one

Posted by chinaman > 2021-10-03 15:57 | Report Abuse

Molnupiravic, new wonder drug by merck....

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:02 | Report Abuse

A drug using manipulated percentage of risk of reduction to corn us ?

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-10-03 16:06 | Report Abuse

good la, when big pharma also start working something new like anti-covid antiviral pill

Posted by chinaman > 2021-10-03 16:07 | Report Abuse

old wine in a new bottle

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-10-03 16:08 | Report Abuse

now merck has come up with molnupiravir

hopefully soon pfizer, shionogi etc. also come up with their own respective competing versions

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-10-03 16:12 | Report Abuse

we need this kind of anti-covid superpill to be another arrow in the quiver, another string in the bow, in our battle against covid

Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > 2021-10-03 16:15 | Report Abuse

vaccine alone has been proven to be not enough

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:20 | Report Abuse

Interim clinical trial results suggest that the experimental drug for severe Covid - molnupiravir - cuts the risk of hospitalisation or death by about half.

In a news release, Merck said at the Interim Analysis, 7.3 per cent of patients who received molnupiravir were hospitalised through day 29, compared with 14.1 per cent of placebo-treated patients who were hospitalised or died.

https://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/khairy-negotiation-underway-to-procure-mersks-antiviral-drug-against-covid-19/ar-AAP41KY?ocid=msedgntp

7.3 / 14.1 = half (50 %), or

14.1 - 7.3 = 6.8 % reduction of risk of hospitalisation or death ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:25 | Report Abuse

Mani poor countries in Africa n South America just use simple, old n chip

drug to fight c 19 n they got do it successfully.

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:35 | Report Abuse

Relative risk of reduction of 50% or

Absolute risk of reduction of 6.8% ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:39 | Report Abuse

Mass vaccination in Singapore got remarkable success ?

Mass vaccination in Sarawak n Selangor got remarkable success ?

Posted by VolatileIsMyGold > 2021-10-03 16:43 | Report Abuse

relative risk reduction la

becos comparing risk when using molnupiravir with risk when using nothing (i. e. placebo)

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:53 | Report Abuse

Indonesia distributes medicines for free as daily Covid-19 infections soar to 56,757.

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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/indonesia-distributes-medicines-for-free-as-daily-covid-19-infections-soar-to-56757

Indonesia's Covid-19 cases are getting lower as 1,414 new Covid-19 cases reported on Saturday (Oct 2)

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/10/03/indonesia039s-covid-19-cases-are-getting-lower-as-1414-new-covid-19-cases-reported-on-saturday-oct-2

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 16:56 | Report Abuse

TEMPO.CO, Jakarta - The Indonesian Food and Drug Monitoring Agency or BPOM has finally granted the Emergency Use Authorization for anti-parasitic drug ivermectin as the therapeutic drug to support the Covid-19 treatment.

Besides ivermectin, the circular noted seven other therapeutic drugs for Covid-19 treatment, viz. Remdesivir, Favipiravir, Oseltamivir, Immunoglobulin, Ivermectin, Tocilizumab, Azithromycin, and Dexamethasone.

https://en.tempo.co/read/1483423/bpom-approves-ivermectin-as-covid-19-therapeutic-drug

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 17:06 | Report Abuse

We can also use simple things like vit d, zinc n fish liver oil as

therapeutics ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-04 08:21 | Report Abuse

Malaysia population = 32 m, new c 19 cases = 9066 (3/10/2021)

Indonesia population = 270 m, new c 19 cases = 1142 (3/10/2021)

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-04 08:50 | Report Abuse

Indonesia oredi got used old n chip drugs to bring down the new c 19

cases from over 50,000 cases to now just 1,142 cases onli.

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-04 20:30 | Report Abuse

Malaysia population = 32 m, new c 19 cases = 8075 (4/10/2021)

Indonesia population = 270 m, new c 19 cases = 922 (4/10/2021)

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-04 21:16 | Report Abuse

Merck has said it expects to produce 10 million courses of the treatment by the end of 2021.

It has a US government contract to supply 1.7 million courses of molnupiravir at a price of US$700 per course.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/thailand-talks-merck-200000-courses-pill-covid19-treatment

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-06 14:06 | Report Abuse

Singapore reported a record 3,486 new coronavirus cases on Tuesday (5/10/2021), as it deals with its biggest outbreak so far.

It has vaccinated more than 80 per cent of its people against Covid-19.

Singapore population = 5.9 m

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-06 14:07 | Report Abuse

Singapore got remarkable success of mass vaccination ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-07 17:42 | Report Abuse

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 7): Malaysia has struck a deal with US drug maker Merck & Co to buy 150,000 courses of its experimental antiviral pill, the Ministry of Health (MoH) said on Thursday, joining other Asian countries in a rush to secure supplies.

Posted by winterwolf > 2021-10-08 13:26 | Report Abuse

Malaysia also secured supplies from Pfizer earlier on,
but although fully paid, supplies just trickling in as it was cornered by the western countries, mainly USA and Canada.
If this oral pill works, the same will happen.

Posted by ahbah > Oct 7, 2021 5:42 PM | Report Abuse

KUALA LUMPUR (Oct 7): Malaysia has struck a deal with US drug maker Merck & Co to buy 150,000 courses of its experimental antiviral pill, the Ministry of Health (MoH) said on Thursday, joining other Asian countries in a rush to secure supplies.

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 10:45 | Report Abuse

Singapore’s health ministry reported 3,703 new cases of Covid-19 on Saturday, the highest since the beginning of the pandemic, while it recorded 11 new deaths from the disease.

A recent spike in infections after the relaxation of some restrictions has prompted Singapore to pause further reopening. It also tightened curbs from last week that limited social gatherings to two people and made work from home a default.

More than 80% of Singapore’s population has been vaccinated against the virus.

Singapore got remarkable success from their mass vaccination ???

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 11:22 | Report Abuse

" Posted by BountyOfTheBourse > Oct 3, 2021 4:15 PM | Report Abuse

vaccine alone has been proven to be not enough "

Korrect.

vaccines + SOP + prophylactics + therapeutics

We need ALL the weapons + tools to fight n kill covid 19 !!!

Singapore respect c 19 !!!

I no respect c 19. I onli want to kill c 19 !!!

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 12:24 | Report Abuse

PETALING JAYA: Khairy Jamaluddin owes Malaysians a full and frank ministerial statement on Covid-19 before the Dewan Rakyat adjourns this week, says DAP strongman Lim Kit Siang.

He said the health minister should not miss the opportunity to do this, especially on the high number of Covid-19 deaths, before the Dewan Rakyat adjourns until the 2022 budget meeting at the end of the month.

“Although the daily reported death numbers have come down to a quarter from 295 on Aug 30 when he took office to 74 yesterday, the bought-in-dead cases are still unacceptably high.

“The health minister still owes Malaysians a full and frank statement on the high Covid-19 death numbers, including the clearing of the backlog,” he said in a statement today.

Lim said the people want to know what the health ministry is doing to drastically reduce the fatality rate in keeping with an “all-of-nation” policy and strategy to fight Covid-19.

He said as it had been over a month since Khairy became minister, he should also explain in Parliament the expected trajectory of the Covid-19 pandemic till the end of the year.

“Although Malaysia has come down from the daily peak of 24,599 new cases on Aug 26, we are encountering difficulties in flattening the Covid-19 curve to bring the daily numbers to triple-digit numbers before lowering it to double digits.

“After one-and-a-half months, Khairy is still struggling with the daily new Covid-19 cases and unable to bring it down to below 8,000,” he said.

Comparing this with Indonesia, Lim said the country, which reached a daily peak of 56,757 new cases on July 15, managed to bring it down to four-figure numbers after 39 days on Aug 23 when it reported 9,604 cases.

“And it has even fallen to three-digit numbers with 922 new cases on Oct 4.”

The Iskandar Puteri MP said at the present rate of infection, Malaysia was likely to pass the 2.5 million mark for cumulative total cases by the end of this month and exceed three million by Khairy’s first 100 days in office.

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 12:28 | Report Abuse

Abang Besar KJ is veri hardworking n oredi got done a very good job.

I think the best of him is yet to come ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 19:00 | Report Abuse

Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong today said the republic must press on with its strategy of “Living with COVID-19”.

“We should respect COVID-19, but we must not be paralysed by fear. Let us go about our daily activities as normally as possible, taking necessary precautions and complying with SMMs (Safe Management Measures),” he said while addressing the nation on the current COVID-19 situation.

Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-10 20:10 | Report Abuse

osted by ahbah > Oct 10, 2021 12:24 PM | Report Abuse

PETALING JAYA: Khairy Jamaluddin owes Malaysians a full and frank ministerial statement on Covid-19 before the Dewan Rakyat adjourns this week, says DAP strongman Lim Kit Siang.

He said the health minister should not miss the opportunity to do this, especially on the high number of Covid-19 deaths, before the Dewan Rakyat adjourns until the 2022 budget meeting at the end of the month.

Answer : Senior Lim has misled local chinese for half a century now! And for the last 10 years, local chinese have been missing in national building, instead harped on chinese past glory! Just look around! So many things are been built without local chinese presence! If local chinese missout for another 10 years, you think malays will still rely on local chinese! That's why i said, Senior Lim is trash! Dap should move on without the Lims! We need a true competent leaders in Dap that can work in multiracial settings!
As for Khairy, he has done his job well! How come Senior Lim say nothing about those 70 useless ministers! How come Senior Lim so quiet when Mahathir made a mockery out of 22 months of Harapan administration!

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 21:50 | Report Abuse

During Ah Eng's times, our klci also pun taklat naik ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-10 21:54 | Report Abuse

During Ah Jeep's times, our klci went up the highest.

Can our Pak Mail beat Ah Jeep's record of highest klci ?

Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-11 11:33 | Report Abuse

Khairy said this did not mean he was taking the matter of new infections lightly, only that the daily cases should be seen in the context of other indicators to provide a more accurate picture of the Covid situation.

He also said there has been a 25% drop in new cases over the past two weeks with 98% of new infections comprising Category 1 and 2 cases.

Even in the case of deaths, Khairy said 2,344 fatalities were recorded in the first week of August while this week there were 360 deaths, an 85% drop in the death rate.

“Brought in dead (BID) cases have also dropped by 89%. ICU bed utilisation has dropped to 60%. If you look at these indicators, even though we haven’t won (the war against Covid) and are still a long way from the endemic phase, we (can see) that we are transitioning to the endemic phase,” he said.

U are simply great !

Please keep on fighting c 19 as we are still a long, long way from

victory over c 19 ! Thank you.