Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 11:20 | Report Abuse

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Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 11:31 | Report Abuse

Solid competency! That's how to decribe Khairy! A true 'A' in how to manage things!
Many doubts Khairy as MOH! But barely 100 days, Khairy already turn even the most avid critics! He is again, showing off his administration skill! Another job well done after handling few ministry!
Which is how a politician should be!
The procurement of vaccines in very early stage was actually very very tough job! Remember, Malaysia is not the only country that was sourcing for Covid vaccines! Every single nation tried to secure their supply!
Anwar was the first to make full frontal attack against Khairy over vaccine procurement! And Khairy made a very clinical statement in reply! Khairy didn't even bother over game of thrones played by Anwar Zahid tag teaming!
Khairy was focus and remain steadfast!
In the end, we saw Khairy hardwork pays off big time! Malaysia has achieve a very remarkable 95% mass vaccination among adults! That's much higher than Isreal of 80%!
And Khairy decision to not place all eggs in one basket also pays off! Instead of solely depend on Ptizer or Sinovac, we also get the much controversial Astrazeneca! But malaysians were much more patriotic! When Khairy decide to offer quarter million Astrazeneca jabs which were not recognised, malaysians quickly grab the initially bunch! Yeah, didn't even last an hour on the offer! All taken up super fast!
Myself also took Astrazeneca! And i am very glad i did! It seems Astrazeneca is the best option on the table as it's effectiveness last much longer than Ptizer and Moderna!
And now a new antiviral that may get emergency authorisation in US may be also available in Malaysia as Khairy quickly moves in to negotiate with Merck!
With that, Malaysia may be among few that will emerge from this pandemic!

周 海

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Posted by 周 海 > 2021-10-03 11:34 | Report Abuse

Then he will be framed by other UNO members.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 11:35 | Report Abuse

Now people are comparing Anwar and Khairy! And i tell you, if Khairy decide to form new party, i believe majority will back him up! As for Anwar, sadly he resort to lies to stay relevance!
I mean, do you serious think government actually paid 2 billions to outside consultants to prepare MP12! It's a ridiculous accusation that only kindergarden level politician would make! But at last, Anwar is Anwar! Provocation is his main weapon! When it comes to performing, Anwar is total 'F'! You should know better if you really examine his past records! He is shiok over himself for been whacker during his tenure!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 11:35 | Report Abuse

Posted by 周 海 > Oct 3, 2021 11:34 AM | Report Abuse

Then he will be framed by other UNO members.

Answer : No doubt! They will bring him down!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 11:37 | Report Abuse

Looking at other countries, Brunei can't even mass vaccinate it's tiny 300k population! Australia can't even procure supply for it's citizens! Badly manage but thankfully their citizens are just as ignorant!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:39 | Report Abuse

Indonesia's Covid-19 cases are getting lower as 1,414 new Covid-19 cases

reported on Saturday (Oct 2)

KJ needs to talk with Abang Joko about how to bring down the new c 19

cases quickly like Indonesia ?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:44 | Report Abuse

The pharma business is a cornman business, corn our hard earn moni ?

Is the vaccination effective in Singapore now ?

izoklse

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Posted by izoklse > 2021-10-03 11:44 | Report Abuse

Tak payah talk to joko pun. Indo antara negara yg paling rendah buat test covid. Kalimantan, papua, sumatera tu berapa banyak tempat dia tak masuk check. That what happen to Thailand and Vietnam. Mula2 dulu kes sgt rendah. But suddenly number climbing high every day after they start realize sooner or later they have to do mass testing.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:47 | Report Abuse

Indonesia got a super large population, yet onli a small number kena c 19 now ?

Abang Joko, please tell us how U do it. Thanks.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:50 | Report Abuse

Singapore got do mass testing, yet their c 19 cases shoot UP TO THE SKY !!!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:53 | Report Abuse

Sarawak, Selangor also got do mass testing n vaccination, yet they got

the largest number of people kena c 19 in our country ?

izoklse

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Posted by izoklse > 2021-10-03 11:53 | Report Abuse

My friend in Jakarta told me that they don't even have enough resource to cover mass testing in indonesia let alone covering almost 800 island in that country. The testing in Sumatra, Kalimatan, sulawasi, papua are very low. Many un-reported cases and fatality especially from those in remote places in the country not reported because indonesia simply dont have enough resource to do that. They only hoping for their people to turn up in hospital and data will be taken from there. Indonesia is the worst example.

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 11:57 | Report Abuse

The vaccines are onli effective for about 8 months onli ?

So, we all need a booster shot every 8 months NON STOP ????

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:02 | Report Abuse

Singapore, Sarawak, Selangor are the best example to prove how the

mass testing n vaccination programme works ?

What outcome was proven by them ?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:04 | Report Abuse

Where is the herb immunity (as promoted before) now ?

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:06 | Report Abuse

Posted by ahbah > Oct 3, 2021 11:39 AM | Report Abuse

Indonesia's Covid-19 cases are getting lower as 1,414 new Covid-19 cases

reported on Saturday (Oct 2)

KJ needs to talk with Abang Joko about how to bring down the new c 19

cases quickly like Indonesia ?

Answer : Seriously, nobody trust Indonesia! I mean, they can't even do mass testing! Almost all who came back from Indonesia tested positive!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:13 | Report Abuse

Almost all who came back from Indonesia tested positive!. That WAS about

3 months ago.

How about NOW ? How is the situation now in Jakarta compared to about 3

months ago ?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:15 | Report Abuse

How mani cases now compared to the number of cases 3 months ago in

Indonesia ?

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:18 | Report Abuse

Ahbah! So i assume we should learn from Indonesia! Only report Covid if they finally land up in hospitals! But ignore those who can't make it! As for mass testing, only test those who enters hospitals! Dont' do any mass testing at all! No test No infection! Should be order of the day!
Let those infected die on their own! Let their kins bury them! Let them get infected as well! Let this cycle continues and remain unreported! Of course, in the near future, a new variant called 'Indon' may spread around the world!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:19 | Report Abuse

I am sure by now, there's new variants in Indonesia! But Indonesia can't do anything as they don't have the facilities!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:20 | Report Abuse

The pharma industry got corn our Pak Din who promised us herb immunity

thru vaccination ?

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:24 | Report Abuse

Ahbah! Yeah, you are right! So mass vaccination is pointless! Kadoos to the 5% who refuse vaccination!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:25 | Report Abuse

I am very sure the 5% unvaccinated are vindicated!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:27 | Report Abuse

I fully sokong mass testing, mass vaccination n mass SOP as now done in

Sarawak n Selangor. What is the outcome now ?

We all got to do more lah.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:28 | Report Abuse

Posted by ahbah > Oct 3, 2021 12:27 PM | Report Abuse

I fully sokong mass testing, mass vaccination n mass SOP as now done in

Sarawak n Selangor. What is the outcome now ?

We all got to do more lah.

Answer : Actually it's better to follow Indonesia! No testing no infections! No mass vaccination no new case! Less SOP less confusion!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:30 | Report Abuse

Maybe, Indonesia got do something which we no got do ?

What is that something ? Maybe, we got to ask Abang Joko about it ?

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:32 | Report Abuse

Posted by ahbah > Oct 3, 2021 12:30 PM | Report Abuse

Maybe, Indonesia got do something which we no got do ?

What is that something ? Maybe, we got to ask Abang Joko about it ?

Answer : Whatever Indonesia has, we certainly don't! I mean, Malaysia despite 95% mass vaccination fail badly against Indonesia that only vaccinate 30% of it's population!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:35 | Report Abuse

We should learn from ALL countries who got brought down rapidly the c 19

cases, countries like Saudi Arabia, Poland, Czechia, Peru etc etc.

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:37 | Report Abuse

Ahbah! We may hit 90% fully vaccinated today! So tomorrow PM may announce interstate travels! So for me, i leave it as such! At the moment, i am not so interested about other countries and how they deal with Covid!
We have our own devils to manage and overcome!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:38 | Report Abuse

So PM put a damper on travel bubble as i think he already knew 90% fully vaccinated actually within days to achieve!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:38 | Report Abuse

So investment wise, Genting should sky rocket by monday, tomorrow!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:40 | Report Abuse

The 90% fully vaccinated Malaysians may lose the c 19 protection after

about 8 months ?

Then we all need another booster shot again ?

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:43 | Report Abuse

Ahbah! Yes! That's what the data shows us!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:44 | Report Abuse

Mani countries oredi got the tools to get rid of the devils.

We can also get rid of our own devil by borrowing the tools from them !!!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:45 | Report Abuse

Actually, i already anticipate booster shots to be given next year! Astrazeneca is the best option on the table for that! Ptizer should be given to students! What to do!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:47 | Report Abuse

Posted by ahbah > Oct 3, 2021 12:44 PM | Report Abuse

Mani countries oredi got the tools to get rid of the devils.

We can also get rid of our own devil by borrowing the tools from them !!!

Answer : So yeah! Finally antiviral should be available next year if Khairy got good deal with Merck! That should cut hospitalization and also cut healthcare cost! Hospitalization is a very expensive thingy! Even for public hospitals, one day lying down on the bed, is not cheap! For private, you are talking about 10k a day!

Tobby

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Posted by Tobby > 2021-10-03 12:48 | Report Abuse

Having said that, Covid pandemic has been super expensive! Brought total damage to global economy too!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:52 | Report Abuse

Khairy: Negotiation underway to procure Mersk's antiviral drug against Covid-19

I 100% sokong our Abang Besar KJ.

I pray KJ can do more than that, please.

Please, no depend on Mersk n WHO onli !

Also depend on the countries who got successfully brought down the c 19

cases !!!!!!!!

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 12:56 | Report Abuse

Antiviral oredi available mani yrs ago. Pharma businessman no recommend

them bcos they cannot make massive profit from old antiviral which got no

patents ?

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:07 | Report Abuse

few friends shared with me info about one chinese medicine called lianhua qingwen jiaonang

they say it's quite good for treating covid

quite cheap also, can get from sinseh

anyone know or heard anything about this thing?

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:07 | Report Abuse

I pray our Abang Besar KJ will be innovative enough like Bang Joko n

declare we all can use all old antivirals n drugs to fight c 19 !!!

Give ALL the tools to our Drs to fight with c 19 pandemic even though WHO

no got recommend those tools !!!

DRs are the experts to fight with c 19. Please, no restrict their

discretion n expertise.

WE cannot just depend on vaccination onli. We all MUST do MORE !!!

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:15 | Report Abuse

good vaccine + tight restrictions/sop + good antiviral drug

plus some good immune building supplements also, e.g. mengkudu, vco/kelapa muda, pau d'arco, pomegranate juice, aronia/black chokeberry (difficult to get, this one) etc.

that is our hope for defeating covid, I believe

we need them all

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:17 | Report Abuse

Pharma businessman no recommend existing medicines to treat c 19 bcos

they cannot make massive profit from them ?

They want to make new medicines, patent them n sell them at sky high

prices to corn our hard earn moni like the experimental vaccines !

No one got know what are the long term effects of these vaccines ?

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:21 | Report Abuse

tobby, if you don't trust indonesia data, then at least trust singapore data la

singapore just hit record high 2,909 daily cases on friday 1 october 2921, despite 85% vaccination rate

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:25 | Report Abuse

so, tobby, you reckon msia kabinet gagal #2 can do voodoo magic & bring down daily infection rate sustainably while completely opening up & loosening up geh

just simply with high vaccination rate only geh, without needing to keep restrictions & tight sop geh

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:26 | Report Abuse

Posted by Tobby > Oct 3, 2021 12:48 PM | Report Abuse

Having said that, Covid pandemic has been super expensive! Brought total damage to global economy too!

The c 19 pandemic is super expensive bcos the pharma businessman no

recommend existing antivirals / medicines to treat c 19. They onli

recommend the new experimental vaccines to fight c 19 n of course they

make tons of moni from the vaccines !!!

Mani poor countries in Africa, South America, Indonesia use old n chip

medicines to fight c 19 n they win !!!

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:33 | Report Abuse

tobby, 'success in achieving high vaccination rate' is not necessarily equal to 'success in achieving low covid infection rate'

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:34 | Report Abuse

Please also trust our very own data. Sarawak n Selangor got very high

vaccination rates but they also got high number of c 19 cases.

Beside vaccination, we all got to do more lah even without the

recommendations of the pharmacy ind. / WHO.

Our Abang Besar oredi yesterday got set the direction right. Please do

more even without the recommendation of WHO !

ahbah

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Posted by ahbah > 2021-10-03 13:40 | Report Abuse

Abang Besar KJ, how about giving to all Malaysians a MEDICAL KIT to fight

c 19 ? Thanks.

Posted by FortuneBlooming > 2021-10-03 13:41 | Report Abuse

tobby, you're just fanatically obssessed with sheer vaccination rate

you need to look more at the actual covid daily infection rate, which is a more accurate indicator of how a country's covid issue is being managed

australia for example has only a 55% vaccination rate, but their covid daily infection rate is 15 times lower than malaysia

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