Bugle: My Views on My Stocks
List of Listed Companies with –NTA (as at 08-12-2016)
List of Listed Companies with –NTA (as at 08-12-2016)
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Code
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Stock
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NTA
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Status
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Remark
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0141
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WINTONI
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-0.002
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Active
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0039
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ASIAEP
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-0.013
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Suspended
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0110
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RA
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-0.026
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Suspended
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0135
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SCN
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-0.0422
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Suspended
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7122
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YFG
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-0.08
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Active
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|
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0022
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CYBERT
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-0.09
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Suspended
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8303
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KFM
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-0.16
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Active
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7002
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NAKA
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-0.28
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Active
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2887
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LIONDIV
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-0.29
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Active
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7027
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PETONE
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-2.073
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Suspended
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5146
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PERWAJA
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-3.50
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Active
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-3.50!!! Still there!!! Why ah?
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The purpose of writing this article is to share my thinking of some observations on the companies listed above and the lesson that we can learn from it. First, see what you see before I highlight to you what I see. Just highlight, I don’t want to waste too much time to explain. I usually don’t like to write stocks that I’m not interested to own. I also don’t like to write article to ask to sell certain stocks, even though most of the time I’m able "to predict" the right timing to do so. 马后炮？哈哈哈！
1. High risk high return? Yes, sometime, but perhaps just once and definitely not all the time. When investing in stocks, to me, risks come first. Many retail investors don’t even know what’s the risk in their stock investment. Are you? But I’m very sure a lot of them don’t even bother to know about it. Take a look at the stock that has –RM3.50 of NTA per share. By the way, why such a company that should have gone bankrupt long long time ago and yet still traded actively until now?
2. What is the fair value of a stock? How to value a stock? Does the current price reflect its’ value? Is the stock undervalued or overvalued? What determine the price and who has the ability “to fix” the price?
3. Pump and dump? What does it mean? This kind of stock manipulation always happened. This is how some greedy and irresponsible individuals/parties make money at the expense of some innocent retail investors. If you read and follow the articles from certain people, then you may have some ideas on" who" always do this.
4. On NTA. What does it mean? What does it mean if price > NTA or price < NTA? You can think about it with the following examples:
0138 MYEG: P=2.23 > NTA=0.18 ( so good meh, another bonus issues coming soon)
6399 ASTRO: P=2.73 > NTA=0.113 (note: good dividend? take a look at capital and reserves)
6947 DIGI: P=4.98 > NTA=0.08 (why so many investors like this?)
5155 XINQUAN: P=0.11 < NTA=1.84 (a lot kena trapped here, another excellent article just came in from M.A. Wind, Xingquan: heavy losses (4) http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kianweiaritcles/111330.jsp )
4596 SAPRES: P=0.925 > NTA=3.63 (look very interesting, but…)
6548 MPCORP: P=0.12 < NTA=0.50 (buy calls repeatedly come from someone)
5. On leverage. The amount of debt used to finance a firm's assets. Look at the balance sheet, 8 or 9 out of 10 GLCs and more than half of Bursa listed companies use this. The amount of debts used in most businesses getting bigger and bigger. The justification: growing business with borrowed money can make more profit and so the ROE can be made higher. Yes, some is, and only those genuining. The risk is on those who are not. How to know which one is and which one is not. Until a time that some cannot grow anymore with debt, or they find no way to borrow money or to roll old one with new one, then they come to the shareholders, the so-called de-leveraging/ restructuring: Rights issues , consolidation and rights issues, rights issues with free warrants, rights issues with bonus issues, private placements, backdoor listing, IPOs, etc.
Examples：
7143 Stone: last year rights issues with free warrant, now PN17.
1171 MBSB: 3 times rights issues within 5 years. Look at the liabilities side. Btw, there are few “buy calls” recently.
3876 MAS: 3 times rights issues before privatized by the govt.
0039 ASIAEP: Proposed Capital Reduction and Proposed Consolidation, Proposed Share Exchange (what is this???)
And many more to come.
Ok, too many issues with many examples for us to think about it or to learn something from it. With these understandings, there is also no guarantee that you’ll make money from stock investment. Without these understandings, 钱亏了，还傻傻不知道发生什么事。Enough for this article. My plan for next article: My Stock Selection Based on NTA, EPS, and Expectation. Filter all and understand what cannot buy, then when the right timing come, you know what to buy. Just a plan, don’t know whether got time and mood to write to share or not. Stay tuned, anyway.
Just for sharing.
By Bugle
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good article
also learn about Dynamic Investing.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stockman/110801.jsp
2016-12-09 18:44
Hi stockmanmy, just read some of your articles. Thank you for sharing! I think it's a good investment approach indeed. Hope it works well for you and wish you every success in your stock investments.
2016-12-10 00:47
HI Super_SKL, thank you for your comments. Your understanding on the above-mentioned issues also not bad mah. I asked the questions, then you asked for the answers, hahaha! Anyway, I've got few possible explanations for that, just haven't got time to write it out. Actually I'm looking for comments or viewpoints from interested readers also. Anyone? hahaha!
2016-12-10 01:04
bugle...sharemarket is different thing to different people.
I want to investigate how to be super super rich via stockmarket.(like KYY)
then , we come to the prevention focused vs promotion focused people part of my write up.
an entrepreneur I mean.
2016-12-10 01:14
Hi stockmanmy, I think you're too ambitious. The rule of game, to my understanding, is not fair. The super super rich has the ability to influence a company's share price by acquiring substantial portions of its shares. They are the "market makers". Think also about the GLC stocks and the tradings of institutional investors like EPF and KWAP. I've written one article before on this matter: "KULIM: Selling by KWAP, The Reason Why Its share price Dropped" http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/Bugle/74354.jsp
The other examples are: Latitude, Liihen, VS, CSCstel.
Yes, they all take risk in their investment. But the fact is: "small retail investors" face even greater risk in their stock investment, taking into account factors like capital, access to information, knowledge, experience, etc.
What's the point?
2016-12-13 16:07
Hi R3D3, good explanations with different scenario. It helps to think more to exercise brain. I think the key is: the ability to comprehend risk and to accurately predict different outcomes.
2016-12-13 16:18
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Hi Bugle, good investment perspective/viewpoints form you. Just curious to know the reason why Perwaja with NTA of -RM3.50 per share is still actively traded in the market. High risk, high return? hahaha... still got hope meh? Basically, it's already a PN17 and defaulted, no more revenue, no more electricity and sued by TNB, more than RM 1.3 billion overdrafts and borrowings, still got people want to take risk to bet!!! China punya company come to help, yes, as announced and reported in the newspapers. Boleh percaya ke? I simply don't understand. Can any sifu can help to explain?
2016-12-09 16:02