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Sinovac vaccine trial in Indonesia.

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Publish date: Sun, 09 Aug 2020, 01:15 AM
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Indonesia to start phase III clinical trials of Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine on Tuesday

 

Vaccine is here! We are saved!

Unfortunately, not quite yet… This is another example of misrepresentation either by the news media or SinoVac themselves.

But lets us first define what Phase I, II and III trial do.

Phase I trial is to determine if the vaccine is safe for humans use. While all drugs, antibodies and vaccines are tested on animals, animal biology while similar is not identical. There are small difference that resulted in incidences where a compound found safe in test animals turned out quite unsafe in humans… we often find this in anticancer drugs. The duration of these trials is about 1 month to a year.


Phase II trial is to determine if the vaccine works to prevent SARS-COv2 infection and how long it is protective. This trial usually last 1 year and have a few hundred people in the trial

Phase III trial is to determine if there are any rare but serious side effects of the vaccine. Usually last at least 1 year, often more and has a few thousand people in the trial.

Sinovac like all other vaccine companies (Moderna/AstraZeneca) have decided, with approval of their host nations to implement a hybrid phase II/III trial. So unlike a regular phase III trial, we do not know if the vaccine works and for how long, even as large number of volunteers test out the new vaccine.

It is mentioned that briefly that Sinovac vaccine did induce antibody production (seroconversion) within a two week period, unfortunately potential short term immunity (since we do know if this immune response is sufficiently robust to fight off a SARS-Cov2 infection) is one thing, but a strong immune reaction 6 months to a year later is also another. I hope Sinovac vaccine performs better, because the other vaccines appear to start to lose potency within 2 weeks after the vaccine second boaster shot. Unfortunately Sinovac has not released any data about its vaccine. Nothing from its phase I safety trial and nothing to backup it antibody production claim. Furthermore Sinovac is still submitting Phase II trial protocol to China’s National Medical Products Administration, even as they start 'phase III' trials abroad.

So chances of immunization maybe not be 60% or 50%, it maybe 0%, because the vaccine fails to give immunity lasting more than 2 months. Or worse, actually caused the development of antibodies that coat the virus and improved its ability to infect cells, a phenomenon called Antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE). ADE has been observed in HIV, dengue virus, and coronavirus. Perhaps the most famous of ADE incident involved the 2017 dengue vaccine Dengvaxia, that has been since withdrawn by the Philippine government. This problem was detected after a 5 year phase III study of 20,000 children. I hope this will not be the case with Sinovac Covid19 vaccine or any other vaccines being developed, but we do not know.

I have also found mention that the Sinovac vaccine requires two doses. Thus reports that Indonesia will manufacture 200 million doses once the trial is complete, is insufficient for Indonesia 267 million citizens. That is only enough for 100 million people, a third of the population.

I want to make it clear to everyone, where exactly we stand. This trial in Indonesia and Brazil is really phase II trials, a trial to determine if the Sinovac vaccine works. There are potential complications with during vaccine development. This trial in Indonesia is expected to finish in half a year at the earliest, Feb 2021. It may take longer.

https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2020/08/07/indonesia-to-start-phase-iii-clinical-trials-of-sinovac-covid-19-vaccine-on-tuesday.html
 

https://www.dhakatribune.com/opinion/op-ed/2020/08/07/op-ed-is-sinovac-s-inactivated-vaccine-candidate-promising

 

http://www.pmlive.com/pharma_news/sinovac_reveals_positive_preliminary_data_for_covid-19_vaccine_1342274

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greedy44444

Vaccine is coming soon.... that's for sure. Don't mislead public with your incorrect writing. Phase III need at least one year to complete ? Today is the year 1990 ? Today already 2020 !! Why so pessimistic ? Not happy to have vaccine to defeat the monstrous covid-19 ASAP ?

2020-08-09 08:04

pBlue

How do we know that a vaccine can give you 1 year of protection? The way to find out is to give people the vaccine and wait 1 year to see what happens. It is not pessimism, it is just reality. We cannot computer model the immune system, because we do not know enough. So that is how long a phase II trial last.

An example of a Phase III is the Dengvaxia phase III trial which lasted 5 years. Eventually this vaccine had to restricted to use only on people who had been infected by Dengue once before due to fact it actually enhanced hemorrhagic dengue fever in uninfected people.

Right now the SinoVac Vaccine isn't in phase III, it is in Phase II. SinoVac and/or the media is being misleading.

Vaccine development isn't normally a fast process. There are set backs and unexpected complication. Take the development history of SARS-Cov1 vaccine, another coronavirus. 10 years of work was put into SARS-Cov1 vaccine from 2003 to 2013, until government and industrial funding ran out. 10 years and no vaccine was developed. Please consider that for a moment and ask yourself, why.

2020-08-09 08:59

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