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Xi, Putin, declare intent to rule the world of AI, infosec
Russian president Vladimir Putin and his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping have set themselves the goal of dominating the world of information technology.
The two despots met earlier this week and have since issued a document titled the "Joint Statement between the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation on Deepening the Comprehensive Strategic Partnership of Coordination in the New Era."
Putin's statement about the meeting includes the following:
Technological sovereignty is the key to sustainability. We propose further improving strategic partnerships in specific industries. By combining our wealth of research capacity and industrial capabilities, Russia and China can become world leaders in information technology, cyber security, and artificial intelligence.
And maybe they can. But the rest of the world may never recognize it, as appetite to acquire Russian and Chinese tech outside the two nations and their small circle of allies is not vast.
The two are nonetheless going to have a go.
The full text [in Chinese] of the Joint Statement promises that the two nations will "explore new cooperation models in technology and industry fields such as artificial intelligence, Internet of Things, 5G, digital economy, and low-carbon economy."
The two leaders also expressed their belief that "new and responsible national codes of conduct in information cyberspace should be formulated, especially universal international legal instruments."
They suggested China's "Global Data Security Initiative" and Russia's concept paper on the International Information Security Convention as likely to be useful starting points. The two nations also signalled they approve of the United Nations Open Working Group on Security in the Use of Information and Communications Technology 2021-2025 - an open-ended committee that works on norms of cyberspace behavior.
"Both sides support the United Nations Ad Hoc Committee to develop a comprehensive international convention against the use of information and communication technologies for criminal purposes," the document adds.
Which is nice, given both are credibly accused of hosting - and maybe encouraging - cyber criminals.
The document also reveals an intention to "support the establishment of a multilateral, fair and transparent global internet governance system on the premise of ensuring the sovereignty and security of internet governance of all countries."
That's almost certainly a reference to China's attempt to create a standard called NewIP that would allow the creation of "sovereign internets" that governments could censor and surveil - just like Russia and China do already. Russia tried to instal an official sympathetic to the idea as boss of the International Telecommunications Union, with China's support. That attempt failed.
The document also spells out the two nations' desire for a "multipolar" order, rejects the notion that "democracy" is a superior governance model, and makes clear the dictators "oppose the hypocritical narrative of the so-called 'democracy against authoritarianism', and oppose the use of democracy and freedom as an excuse to put pressure on other countries and politics.”
So there you have it: two autocracies planning to work together to build tech the rest of the world is increasingly reluctant to sell them, while also trying to change the rules that govern the internet and acceptable online behavior, and insisting that the repressive philosophies that underpin their vision of those rules must be considered equal to other schools of political thought.
All of which will be helped by increased collaboration on energy resources, sport, the arts, and youth exchanges - to make sure the two nations get along. ®
https://www.theregister.com//2023/03/22/russia_china_joint_statement/
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Without US there will be no conflict, nuclear bomb and war around the world.
2023-03-24 10:43
The west imperialism and as a servant of Great British. All our king has to be second class in the past and they took all of our resources at low prices. A century of humiliation. and yet still got people support them to fight China. Ridiculous.
You will follow their rules to fight China.
IDQWE001. Do you know how they treat servants last time? they will throw a bone at you.
2023-03-24 10:47
Posted by nicholas99 > 3 minutes ago | Report Abuse
The west imperialism and as a servant of Great British. All our king has to be second class in the past and they took all of our resources at low prices. A century of humiliation. and yet still got people support them to fight China. Ridiculous.
You will follow their rules to fight China.
IDQWE001. Do you know how they treat servants last time? they will throw a bone at you.
Ans: nicholas99 , do u know the history old dynasty of Han destroy a country and killed thousands because of horse ?
2023-03-24 10:54
Posted by gladiator > 10 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Without US there will be no conflict, nuclear bomb and war around the world.
Ans: without US the entire Europe fell into Naxis including Russia. Without US, entire China fell into the control of Japan. Without Atomic bomb how many millions got killed before Japan army surrender ?
2023-03-24 11:01
just ignore IDQWE001 aka supersaiyan3 ,foongsh and more . he obviously read too much fake Chinese history ,fake news related to China and propaganda from the Taiwan political party who controlled media. I watched those media from youtube before . they are full of shxt.
2023-03-24 11:42
Chinese Malaysians who do not agree with the above concepts are advocating that "born in Local and grew up in Local", believing that Chinese Malaysians are no longer overseas Chinese, Malaysia is their own motherland, China is their ancestral home, and identification with Malaysia should be given priority, but the Malaysian Chinese who advocate this often face the pressure of being accused of "forgetting their ancestors", and even more extreme cases will even be labeled as "traitors".
2023-03-24 11:51
Security in daily lives is key to well-being. UN, AUKUS, Indo-Pacific, NATO’s purpose is to guarantee the freedom and security of its members through political and military means.
POLITICAL - promotes democratic values and enables members to consult and cooperate on defence and security-related issues to solve problems, build trust and, in the long run, prevent conflict.
MILITARY - committed to the peaceful resolution of disputes. If diplomatic efforts fail, it has the military power to undertake crisis-management operations. These are carried out under the collective defence clause of founding treaty - under a United Nations mandate, alone or in cooperation with other countries and international organisations.
2023-03-24 12:31
Don’t be a slave of the West. The West were willing to killed each other in WW1 and WW2 and pulled Asian nations into these wars together with them.
The West plundered Asian and African nations resources to enrich themselves.
Asian and African nations were considered as The White Man's Burden.
"The White Man's Burden" (1899), by Rudyard Kipling, is a poem about the Philippine–American War (1899–1902) that exhorts the United States to assume colonial control of the Filipino people and their country.[1] Originally written to celebrate the Diamond Jubilee of Queen Victoria (22 June 1897), the jingoistic poem was replaced with the sombre "Recessional" (1897), also a Kipling poem about empire.
In "The White Man's Burden", Kipling encouraged the American annexation and colonisation of the Philippine Islands, a Pacific Ocean archipelago conquered in the three-month Spanish–American War (1898).[1] As an imperialist poet, Kipling exhorts the American reader and listener to take up the enterprise of empire yet warns about the personal costs faced, endured, and paid in building an empire;[1] nonetheless, American imperialists understood the phrase "the white man's burden" to justify imperial conquest as a civilising mission that is ideologically related to the continental expansion philosophy of manifest destiny of the early 19th century.
Posted by IDQWE001 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Ans: without US the entire Europe fell into Naxis including Russia. Without US, entire China fell into the control of Japan. Without Atomic bomb how many millions got killed before Japan army surrender ?
2023-03-24 13:13
Posted by nicholas99 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
wait until china take taiwan. this type of ppl will be gone. lol.
Answer： What a CCP hegemony statement no wonder most people in the world dont like to stay in communist country.
2023-03-24 13:19
Posted by Income > 6 minutes ago | Report Abuse
Don’t be a slave of the West. The West were willing to killed each other in WW1 and WW2 and pulled Asian nations into these wars together with them.
The West plundered Asian and African nations resources to enrich themselves.
Ans: Russia is white or yellow ?
2023-03-24 13:20
Don’t be brainwashed by the West who justified usage of Atomic Bombs on 2 Jap counties… only then the Jap would surrender.
Why the US didn’t use Atomic Bombs against Hitler who was even worse than the Jap. Hitler killed 7 millions Jews and could be stopped earlier by using Atomic bombs in Berlin. The West instead used Atomic Bombs against Asian instead of White man Germany. The West has double standards when it comes to Asian nations.
Posted by IDQWE001 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Ans: without US the entire Europe fell into Naxis including Russia. Without US, entire China fell into the control of Japan. Without Atomic bomb how many millions got killed before Japan army surrender?
2023-03-24 13:21
Russia is a White neutral nation…
Germany, Britain, Spain, Portugal, Dutch, French, US all has colonies in either Africa or South East Asia nations.
Of course Lenin and Stalin communists were also Babarians. But I support Putin… my hero.
Posted by IDQWE001 > 1 minute ago | Report Abuse
Ans: Russia is white or yellow ?
2023-03-24 13:28
Fake news below. It was the Russians who liberated most of European nations. US only helped to liberate a few of European countries. Without Russian fighting Hitler and won, US would never be able to defeat Hitler Nazis. You are brainwashed by the western historians.
Posted by IDQWE001 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
Ans: without US the entire Europe fell into Naxis including Russia. Without US, entire China fell into the control of Japan. Without Atomic bomb how many millions got killed before Japan army surrender?
2023-03-24 13:32
ya la.. the white killed indiana people.. and import the african to be slave.. enslave every country they went. and they admire the white.. i know white girls are pretty. but.. cannot la ini macam.
now also US force his allies to aid ukraine. some of them don't want aid 1... where is democracy?
US ask canada help haiti.. then canada ask US: please do more yourself first.
2023-03-24 13:48
US could just drop two atomic bombs in Berlin and Germany will surrender, saving lots of lives in the process. Why US need to land in Normandy France? US can’t do it Because White man are still the brothers of US. But US can drop 2 Atomic Bombs in Japan. Japanese is not White man country, so US not guilty conscience to drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan.
2023-03-24 14:22
Posted by nicholas99 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
wait until china take taiwan. this type of ppl will be gone. lol.
nicholas99 代表中共恐吓海外不听话的华人吗？难道中共拿下台湾就可以对付海外不听话的华人吗？
2023-03-24 14:27
Posted by Income > 4 minutes ago | Report Abuse
US could just drop two atomic bombs in Berlin and Germany will surrender, saving lots of lives in the process. Why US need to land in Normandy France? US can’t do it Because White man are still the brothers of US. But US can drop 2 Atomic Bombs in Japan. Japanese is not White man country, so US not guilty conscience to drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan. 你以为用英文就高人一等吗 ？
2023-03-24 14:28
US: Jump EU: Yes sir Australia: How high? New Zealand: Do you want us to do a backflip sir?
2023-03-24 15:06
We are here to make good arguments by using whichever language that everyone can understand. We aren’t supporting English just because we’re using 26 Roman Alphabets.
foongsh, why are you using India Arabic numbers from 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9?
Are you saying Chinese numbers 0 to 9 in Chinese Characters are not good in Mathematics???
我们在这里通过使用每个人都能理解的哪种语言来进行良好的论证。我们并不是因为使用26个罗马字母就支持英语。
foongsh，你为什么使用印度的阿拉伯数字0、1、2、3、4、5、6、7、8、9？
你是说汉字中的0到9的数字在数学上不好吗？
Posted by foongsh > 3 seconds ago | Report Abuse
为什麽这些中华胶一直讲白人不好，但是一直用英文26个子母？英文就高人一等吗 ？为什麽不好好学学和运用拥有5千年文化博大精深的中文呢？
2023-03-24 15:25
Posted by Income > 21 minutes ago | Report Abuse
We are here to make good arguments by using whichever language that everyone can understand. We aren’t supporting English just because we’re using 26 Roman Alphabets.
foongsh, why are you using India Arabic numbers from 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9?
Are you saying Chinese numbers 0 to 9 in Chinese Characters are not good in Mathematics???
我们在这里通过使用每个人都能理解的哪种语言来进行良好的论证。我们并不是因为使用26个罗马字母就支持英语。
foongsh，你为什么使用印度的阿拉伯数字0、1、2、3、4、5、6、7、8、9？
你是说汉字中的0到9的数字在数学上不好吗？
Answer： 没有问题，你也可以用甲乙丙丁。
2023-03-24 15:52
Posted by Income > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
US could just drop two atomic bombs in Berlin and Germany will surrender, saving lots of lives in the process. Why US need to land in Normandy France? US can’t do it Because White man are still the brothers of US. But US can drop 2 Atomic Bombs in Japan. Japanese is not White man country, so US not guilty conscience to drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan. 那时候原子弹发明出来了吗？如果不是日本偷袭珍珠港，美国会参战吗 ？
2023-03-24 16:02
会。因为美国是支持英国和破烂Poland的。还有以色列人。忘了吗？
原子弹只是plan B。不用那么多人命换才丢的。美国一直都是想自己罢了。台湾还笨笨。
2023-03-24 16:37
The atomic bomb already invented by US at 1945. So US could bomb Germany and Japan.
美国在1945年已经发明了原子弹。所以美国可以轰炸德国和日本。
Posted by foongsh > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse
Posted by Income > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
US could just drop two atomic bombs in Berlin and Germany will surrender, saving lots of lives in the process. Why US need to land in Normandy France? US can’t do it Because White man are still the brothers of US. But US can drop 2 Atomic Bombs in Japan. Japanese is not White man country, so US not guilty conscience to drop 2 atomic bombs in Japan. 那时候原子弹发明出来了吗？如果不是日本偷袭珍珠港，美国会参战吗 ？
2023-03-24 18:10
US will no defend Taiwan. US will defend Taiwan only if US is confident of winning a war against China. Taiwan is still daydreaming.
美国不会保卫台湾。只有在美国有信心赢得对中国的战争时，美国才会保卫台湾。台湾还在做白日梦。
2023-03-24 18:19
Posted by foongsh > 3 hours ago | Report Abuse
Posted by nicholas99 > 1 hour ago | Report Abuse
wait until china take taiwan. this type of ppl will be gone. lol.
nicholas99 代表中共恐吓海外不听话的华人吗？难道中共拿下台湾就可以对付海外不听话的华人吗？
请不要用恐吓的语气，海外华人可以有自个的意识型态。
2023-03-24 18:23
US is using Taiwan as a mean of controlling China. Taiwan thinks US will definitely defending Taiwan if China attacked Taiwan.
美国正在利用台湾作为控制中国的手段。台湾认为，如果中国攻打台湾，美国一定会保卫台湾。
2023-03-24 18:33
Posted by Income > 12 minutes ago | Report Abuse
The atomic bomb already invented by US at 1945. So US could bomb Germany and Japan.
美国在1945年已经发明了原子弹。所以美国可以轰炸德国和日本。
Answer： 1944年 1月-11月，苏军开展十次斯大林突击，至年底基本收复德占区 6月6日 英美军队在诺曼底登陆，欧洲第二战场开辟。当时德军已经节节败退，不需要用原子弹。当时以美国尽全国之力只能造两颗，1945年2月19日—3月17日 美军和日军在硫磺岛交战，美军死伤严重，不得已只能用上了。
2023-03-24 18:34
US will no defend Taiwan. US will defend Taiwan only if US is confident of winning a war against China. Taiwan is still daydreaming.
美国不会保卫台湾。只有在美国有信心赢得对中国的战争时，美国才会保卫台湾。台湾还在做白日梦。
Ans: NATO, AUKUS, INDO-Pacific军事结盟，如果中共认为代价太大，动摇国本可能不会冒险。
2023-03-24 18:47
Answer： 1944年 1月-11月，苏军开展十次斯大林突击，至年底基本收复德占区 6月6日 英美军队在诺曼底登陆，欧洲第二战场开辟。当时德军已经节节败退，不需要用原子弹。当时以美国尽全国之力只能造两颗，1945年2月19日—3月17日 美军和日军在硫磺岛交战，美军死伤严重，不得已只能用上了。如果结论是老美不会用原子弹炸白人国家而炸日本，是可笑的结论。
2023-03-24 18:52
The war in Europe had ended by the time the first bombs were ready.
However, it was revealed a few years ago that the Pentagon had in fact no plans to use the atomic bomb against Germany, because it was feared that if one was a dud, the Germans would analyze it and figure out how to make bombs themselves.
A reasonable concern (by that time, it was clear that the Germans own attempt to make an atomic bomb had failed, and Germany was close to its inevitable defeat), but some of the Manhattan Project scientists were upset when they heard that and said that they would not have developed the bomb if they’d known.
第一批炸弹准备好时，欧洲的战争已经结束。
然而，几年前有人透露，五角大楼事实上没有对德国使用原子弹的计划，因为它担心如果一颗原子弹是哑弹，德国人就会分析它并找出自己制造炸弹的方法。
这种担心是合理的（当时，德国人自己制造原子弹的尝试显然已经失败，德国已经接近不可避免的失败），但一些曼哈顿项目的科学家听到这个消息后很不高兴，说如果他们知道的话，就不会开发原子弹。
2023-03-24 19:17
https://youtube.com/shorts/fZVYPMOOOrE?feature=share
Laser war. Next time no more aircraft… shoot down by US laser.
2023-03-25 17:13
Russ hypersonic rockets…
Useless against laser weapons???
https://youtube.com/shorts/n4v00nkC-tE?feature=share
2023-03-25 17:18
Putin ambition is low mah!
He just seek NATO not to expand east wards to Ukraine loh!
But NATO ignore him mah!
That result in war loh!
2023-03-26 10:58
俄罗斯想收复其伟大的古代帝国边界已经多次侵入他国边境，这违背了当前的国际秩序。如果以前个大帝国皆如此，大家回复上千年前的森林法则吧。Russia intend to regain its borders of its great ancient empire, has repeatedly invaded the borders of other countriesand contrary to the current international order. If this was the case with all the great empires same intention, let's revert to the laws of the jungle thousands of years ago.
2023-03-26 11:59
No.
Russ only does not want Nato placing Nuclear Missiles at Russ doorstep (in Ukraine).
During President Kennedy time, Russ sent missiles to Cuba and US blocked Cuba waterways until Russia took back all its missiles from Cuba.
US also doesn’t want Russia placing missiles at its doorstep. Same case lah. But this time Ukraine applied for Nato membership… this alarm Russia. Russia gave many warnings to Ukraine but Ukraine didn’t care.
2023-03-26 15:10
NATO has no intention to place nuclear weapon in Ukraine, Ukraine is not allowed to join NATO at that time.
Cuba not allowed to have nuclear weapon because it was cold war between NATO & USSR. With dissolution of USSR cold war is ended.
2023-03-26 17:27
自苏联解体后，东欧国家大量吸受了西方国家的资金和技术，国家如波兰，捷克，罗马尼亚等等人民生活大大改善。
乌克兰是主权国家，也想步随这有不对吗 ？为了愚蠢的俄罗斯帝国吗？
Since the collapse of the Soviet Union, Eastern European countries have absorbed a lot of funds and technology from Western countries, and the lives of people in countries such as Poland, the Czech Republic, Romania and so on have greatly improved.
Ukraine is a sovereign state, is it wrong to want to follow for the sake of people ? Can't, just because of the silly Great Russia Empire ?
2023-03-26 17:45
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