lching

well done!

2013-08-13 12:41

lching

what is the level of KLCI on 18th March?

2013-08-13 12:51

mcd123

18th March -KLCI Hi: 1627 Lo:1613, Closed :1621

2013-08-13 13:02

lching

as of 12th August, KLCI was 1784, up 163 point or 10%, his "portfolio" outperform arround 20% lah?

2013-08-13 15:24

haikeyila

again, i think timing plays a huge part in this portfolio.

2013-08-13 15:32

lching

haikeyila.......agree

2013-08-13 15:35

lmenwe

even though i don't agree with some stocks picked by cold eye but the results show that he is the best retail investor in malaysia! those so called malaysia warren buffett should learn from him!

2013-08-14 00:48

super911

Again saw mr cold eye at giza mall. He stay in tropicana? Uncle ini dress like poor retired man but in actual fact, is a multi millionaire.

2013-08-14 13:31

lching

in actual situation where we always keep a certain percentage of cash, total return for a portfolio will be lower.

2013-08-14 13:51

lching

for someone like Warren Buffett or cold eye, investment is only a rich man game. like a poor student play online game, just to kill time or get satisfaction. what's the point of a multi millionaire wearing like a poor old man, to avoid kidnaping may be, hehehehe......

2013-08-14 13:56

mmtalents

1. you make billions but not willing to spend it, end of the day donate all to charities, you become a legacy

2. you make billions, live to the fullness of your life, sport car, big mansions, sexy models, etc..

mana satu u mau?

2013-08-14 14:23

lching

i would say we can always travel the middle path.

2013-08-14 14:25

mmtalents

the problem is sometimes when u make your 1st billion, you are already a 60 yo "look like retired" man, how to enjoy sport car and sexy models? unless you are facebook founder or playboy founder. :P

2013-08-14 14:27

lching

then we should lower our target to 0.2 billion instead of 1 billion.

2013-08-14 14:29

super911

Frankly, it's not easy to strike a balance. They are rich probably because of their frugal lifestyle since young. If they have 'drive sport cars, play model' mentality, they might not what they are today.

2013-08-14 14:33

mmtalents

that's why, unless you founded a "facebook" like Mark when you are 20 yo. ha ha

2013-08-14 14:35

lching

cannot own a Porsche, than buy a beemer. cannot own a $1500sqf condo, buy a $800sqf, the difference of enjoyment is very slim indeed.

2013-08-14 14:39

mmtalents

may be that's the different with some of us and the frugal super rich, when we make 1 mil, we want to buy a beemer where the super rich reinvest the 1 mil and keep on driving their 10 years old car. :P

2013-08-14 14:42

super911

I got one close friend also the same. He is a multi millionaire now, owns few bungalows, stocks and other assets in millions. All this while, he only buy 2nd hand car until he is almost 60 years old now :D

Sometimes, when you think of it, even though you are making 20k a month, is it worth to practically burn RM3K a month, just for the sake of a beemer car?

2013-08-14 14:49

lching

样样都从投资着眼，这个人一定很乏味，不知道何谓人生。

2013-08-14 14:54

mmtalents

人生 = 60 years? 70 years? 100 years?

2013-08-14 14:57

lching

生命的意义吧，每个人都可以有自己的诠释。

2013-08-14 14:59

super911

If we use Robert Kiyosaki theory as a guideline, we shouldn't buy luxury car until our passive income is enough to pay for that car. An entry bmw 3 series cost around 250K, installment would be RM3K for 9 years loan. Passive income of RM3K= RM36K/yr. Assuming a yearly 6% return on the asset, you would need an asset worth RM36K/0.06 = RM600K.

So without an asset worth 600k generating 6% yield, you shouldn't buy a beemer. LOL.

2013-08-14 15:03

mmtalents

assumed it is spare cash to me.. I will keep invest till the day I really need the money

2013-08-14 15:05

lching

not even a millionaire yet so i prefer a 2nd hand beemer,hehehe.

2013-08-14 15:07

mmtalents

super911, what is within that 9 years ur property yield dropped? sell ur beemer? ha ha

2013-08-14 15:08

super911

Then you shouldn't use ngam ngam 600k & 6% yield. Buffer it higher to 800K yielding 8%. Then you are officially 'qualified' to own beemer cost RM250K ! LOL

2013-08-14 15:18

mmtalents

i wait and take MRT. ha ha

2013-08-14 15:21

lching

ok, from super911 culculation, now i know i will never ever own a new 3 series.

2013-08-14 15:22

mmtalents

be frugal :P

2013-08-14 15:25

lching

Tan KW....i think can afford a 10 years beemer, hahaha

2013-08-14 15:25

mmtalents

from the dividend? or u simple divide by 12?

2013-08-14 15:28

lching

i wonder what car cold eye drive....

2013-08-14 15:29

super911

2nd hand 3 series, is quite 'cheap'. beemer depreciate around 10%/yr for the first 3 years. Now a 3 years old beemer is around 150K. So installment would be around 1700, means yearly is around RM20K. So a portfolio of RM340K yielding 6% is enough for this LOL

2013-08-14 15:30

mmtalents

that if u keep trading on monthly basis, if you holding on it, it will not give u passive income on monthly basis

2013-08-14 15:30

super911

Bear in mind, if you buy a 3 years old beemer, get ready to budget another 20K/yr to repair it once it reach 5-6 years old.

2013-08-14 15:31

pharker

Today's money is just fiat money made of paper with low intrinsic value...and the govt keeps printing them like no tomorrow

The full potential value of money can only be unlocked once it is SPENT either thru consumption or investment, otherwise the value got trapped in a piece of paper

2013-08-14 15:32

lching

Tan KW, very true, we cannot compare with cold eye.

2013-08-14 15:48

super911

Tan, what you want me to ask him? He got son or daughter not married?

2013-08-14 17:07

lching

what car he drives, maybe?

2013-08-14 17:30

Peter Lee

kancil

2013-08-14 23:54

Peter Lee

kancil

2013-08-14 23:54

lching

hahaha

2013-08-19 14:39

mmtalents

drive kancil out, but many beemers at home leh

2013-08-19 14:41

lching

i like this. any accident happened, multi million will gone with the kancil. in fact Perodua should use him to advertise, Viva sure sell,hahaha .

2013-08-19 14:45

mmtalents

drive kancil less risk on kidnap and robbery ma, as long as u drive slow and steady and not go far far, he drives from Tropicana to giza only, accident risk lower

2013-08-19 14:58

super911

Jimmy,
Enough of not very much depends on 2 things:

1. What's your average return that you can get from the 200k. 3% is 6k, 5% is 10k. Can you consistently make that profit margin?

2. What's your lifestyle now. It would be different if you have a fixed commitment of RM3k vs RM10k.

2013-10-12 11:34

kentg03

Last time i drive kancil also kena hijack :'(

2014-11-19 09:32