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How do companies avoid earnings volatilities? - felicity

Tan KW
Publish date: Fri, 04 Nov 2016, 06:49 PM
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Friday, November 4, 2016 

 
 
I probably have a magic trick which I can say I can help companies to avoid volatilities in their earnings. I DON'T.

Basically many companies - or all of them - CANNOT avoid volatilities! Some businesses or companies are just more volatile than others. For example, a company which provides tax filing business for tax returnees makes only one quarter profit, H&R Block most of the time register 1 quarter of profit while the rest of the quarters they register losses. They make a lot during 2nd quarter of the year when individuals or companies file their taxes. Other quarters, are just very quiet for them.

In Malaysia, airlines for example make more during the 4th quarter due to end of year school holidays. In Europe, airlines make the most in the July to September quarter while during winter, they probably can make losses.

Construction companies has high volatilities due to the nature of their business which is dependent on sign offs and contracts in which case I gave some opinion on Gadang. Hotels, retail, toys businesses can be very seasonal too.

To provide soft landing to anyone's earnings on a quarterly or annual basis is CHEATING. No company can or should do that.

I just read an article which teaches companies to avoid filing bumpy financial results through several methods - in which case, one of the method is to increase the company's provisions. This is hugely wrong.

In fact, what companies should do is to provide more guidance or reasonings on their results. As an example, if the company has huge exposure to earnings or borrowings from foreign currencies, they should explain - not leave it to individual investors to decipher. Malaysian companies do not do well here. They in fact are not that honest sometimes.

As an example, I remember, I wrote an article warning investors on some of the good results which was registered by several export oriented companies, and many investors jumped to the good results like bees to honey. This example was by a company which I respect - Top Glove. And to provide proves to what I have said here is an example on its press release during 30 November 2015 results, the height of our Malaysia recent economic problem where our currencies dropped drastically last year.

Part of Top Glove's press release for Nov15 quarter ending results

If you read the article I wrote December last year and the rationale which was provided by Top Glove for example (I boxed in red), the real reasons why Top Glove made good money was not MAINLY because of their operational efficiencies. Operational efficiencies do not bring 173% improvement in bottomline in just one year. If today, one is to go though its latest results, it has come down as its huge currency benefits from ringgit depreciation has dwindled and buyers (foreign companies) can now have better bargaining power as Top Glove's competitors can also fight back by providing lower pricing. (Note: This does not mean Top Glove is a bad company)

As I have said many times, do not look at quarter to quarter results. They can be misleading. Look at fundamentals of the business and perhaps their annual results as they are audited.

 
 

 

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moneySIFU

I called it dishonesty. Dishonesty means Cheating.

"I just read an article which teaches companies to avoid filing bumpy financial results through several methods - in which case, one of the method is to increase the company's provisions. This is hugely wrong."

2016-11-05 00:32

soojinhou

Prominent investor asked Gadang to adjust depreciation to smooth out the profit. Depreciation model is usually a linear model over a set number of years. To add a bump and a trough in a straight line is indeed cheating. Linear means linear. Again prominent investor shows he care not about corporate governance, he cares only himself and his profits.

2016-11-05 07:32

CharlesT

Koon Koon is back to I3 talking shares now....broke his promise again....why I am not surprised?????????

2016-11-05 07:34

pussycats

Ayamtua, gua tengok lu punya call dua tahun dulu, semua tak baik punya, bikin gua rugi RM saja. Gua skarang tak caya lagi sama lu lagi . Sayonara Ayam tua. Bye bye . Gua learn from your bad call. No hard feelings ok... Ayamtua can be Ayam champion, who knows. kikiki

2016-11-05 10:46

pussycats

Posted by soojinhou > Nov 5, 2016 07:32 AM | Report Abuse

Prominent investor asked Gadang to adjust depreciation to smooth out the profit. Depreciation model is usually a linear model over a set number of years. To add a bump and a trough in a straight line is indeed cheating. Linear means linear. Again prominent investor shows he care not about corporate governance, he cares only himself and his profits.
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pussycat answers : I hate when someone tell management to manipulate company accounts so that he himself & all share holders benefit. But actually this prominent investor benefits more because he has bigger numbers of shares (million of shares) compare to small bilis who only benefit little bits only. If company manipulate accounts, who benefit more, big shareholders or small bilis?

2016-11-05 11:00

pussycats

Remember, the first rule if you want to do business with someone is to make sure whether that person you are doing business with is honest or not honest.
Don't ever do business or make joint venture with someone who is not honest, bCos you will regret it in the end. Likewise, a person who ask company to manipulates company accounts is not honest. This is the most important advice given by my business sifu, that is never, never, never do business with dishonest people.

2016-11-05 11:12

pussycats

To provide soft landing to anyone's earnings on a quarterly or annual basis is CHEATING. No company can or should do that.

I just read an article which teaches companies to avoid filing bumpy financial results through several methods - in which case, one of the method is to increase the company's provisions. This is hugely wrong.

In fact, what companies should do is to provide more guidance or reasonings on their results. As an example, if the company has huge exposure to earnings or borrowings from foreign currencies, they should explain - not leave it to individual investors to decipher. Malaysian companies do not do well here. They in fact are not that honest sometimes.

2016-11-05 11:50

pussycats

Posted by Ezra_Investor > Nov 4, 2016 12:22 PM | Report Abuse

Not to add salt to the injury, but no matter how good a stock is, if you feel like the management is not honest and trustworthy, then you can pretty much discount it.

As my teacher Warren Buffett would say: "Somebody once said that in looking for people to hire, you look for three qualities: integrity, intelligence, and energy. ... If you hire somebody without [integrity], you really want them to be dumb and lazy."

Buying a company's share is like doing business as a partnership, if your partner in business cannot be trusted, then it's only matter of time before he will stab you one day in your business.

2016-11-05 12:09

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