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US sees china in ‘awkward’ position over Ukraine

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Publish date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023, 03:45 PM
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China’s stance on the Russian invasion of Ukraine puts it in an “awkward” position internationally and any weapons support to Russia would come with “real costs”, US National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan said.

Sullivan emphasised in three interviews with US television networks on Sunday that the Biden administration doesn’t have evidence that China is giving “lethal support” to President Vladimir Putin’s war in Ukraine, while seeking to warn Beijing of the risks.

“When China talks rhetorically about the war in Ukraine, they tie themselves into knots, because they know that going all-in with Russia in this war is Ukraine would alienate a substantial number of countries that they are working hard to maintain good relations with,” Sullivan said on CNN’s State of the Union.

China’s position “is much more awkward” than the US stance, he said.

Tensions between the world’s two top economies has been running high since Secretary of State Antony Blinken and China’s diplomat, Wang Yi, met in Germany on Feb 18. Blinken said afterward that the US had evidence that China was considering helping arm Russia, a claim dismissed by Beijing. The US hasn’t provided public evidence for its assertion.

President Joe Biden and Chinese leader Xi Jinping don’t have any call scheduled for now, “though I anticipate the two leaders will speak at some point in the not too distant future”, Sullivan said on NBC’s Meet the Press.

With Russia’s war on Ukraine entering its second year, Sullivan said Kyiv still has the strong support of a large international coalition, a fact not lost on China.

“This war presents real complications for Beijing,” he said on CNN. “And Beijing will have to make its own decisions about how to proceed, whether it provides military assistance. But if it goes down that road, it will come at real costs to China.”

China on Friday called for a cease-fire between Russia and Ukraine, but the 12-point proposal gained little international support. Several of the measures outlined would, if carried out, favour Russia.

US officials have previously criticised China for attempting to portray itself as a neutral party in the conflict while simultaneously giving Moscow what the US alleges is diplomatic, economic and propaganda support.

China last week abstained from a United Nations resolution calling for an end to the war. The measure passed 141-7, with 32 abstentions. The UN resolution included a demand for the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine’s territory.

China was “one of a number of countries that just tried to stand on the sidelines”, Sullivan.

 


  - Bloomberg

 

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ks55

It is a big joke to say China is in awkward position. China is enjoying the show with popcorn in hand. The longer Ukraine War drags, better for China. Other than Ukraine self-inflicted injury, US and Nato is not much better. Nice to see these bullies bleeding to death.

2023-02-27 16:18

nicholas99

US is exporting war when its debt is high.. same as world war 2. that's how they work. China needs to be smart on this. if Russia is dead, then next would be china.

2023-02-27 16:34

nicholas99

If China dead, the world won't have another big economy that can save the rest of us from a recession like the one in 2008 and etc.. All countries have to rely on US, and they can keep printing US dollar. This means your currency became dirt cheap and you work for America Great Again. haha

2023-02-27 16:36

nicholas99

Its like Sanguo.. If Cao Cao fought with Liu Bei. Sun Quan is safe and prosperous.

If Liu Bei loses, Sun Quan aka the rest of us are going to be slaves of Cao Cao.

Vietnam is a good example.

2023-02-27 16:42

Sslee

In case Taiwan cross the red line what China need to do is just announcement of civil war and enforced a total sea and air blockage around Taiwan island without sending any invading troops into Taiwan.

Any foreign countries ships or planes violated the sea and air blockage line will be shoot down/destroy by China anti ship and air missiles.

Then we can have popcorn and watching the sea and air battle.

2023-02-27 17:08

i3lurker

no more smelly taufoo to be exported?
sslee
then you need to use your socks, do solvent extraction.
put socks inside coffee shaker
Add some hexane from your mill then
shake, shake to tune of "We Don’t Need Another Hero, Tina Turner"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcm-tOGiva0

2023-02-27 17:18

Sslee

*中國外長 王毅 * :我國要做好準備面對未來三年的【十大殘酷現實】!!

 王毅:2020年對中美關係來講是艱難的一年,這種艱難可能還會持續幾年時間,甚至會更長,因為『到現在還沒有解藥』。而在接下來的三年裡我們也需要去面對的十大殘酷現實!

  第一大殘酷現實: 中美關係是所有關係中的關鍵和核心 ,有一萬個理由可以證明搞好中美關係的重要性, *中國沒有成本優勢與美國對抗*。
  不是說中國怕美國,而是不值得玩對抗﹔在對待美國霸權問題上, 中國必須要運用智慧 。防止失聯朋友圈更精彩你可以討厭美國、不喜歡美國、恨美國, *但不要影響去重視美國*。不是因為覺得美國好才與他搞好關係,僅僅是因為 美國是“老大” ,是 遊戲規則的制定者 ,是 中國最大的消費市場 ,這是 一個殘酷的現實和事實 ,你不服不行。

  第二大殘酷現實: 現在的中國可以影響世界,但不能左右世界 。目前能夠左右世界的只有美國,這個現實我們必須要接受。要知道:影響世界的國家有許多,況且這種影響也是有階段性的,你在影響別人的同時,別人 *也在影響你。世界萬物都是彼此影響的,所以 不要有優越感 。優越感會造成 盲目自信 ,自信過頭就是 *自負*,自負過頭就會 *自命不凡*,最後只能是 自作多情 和 自認倒霉 了。

第三大殘酷現實: “中國模式”僅僅適用於中國 。
  中國的高速發展是不能被複製制的。因為中國的歷史別國是沒有的,我們所受到的曲折、痛苦和折磨在人類歷史上是少有的,中國現在的發展模式是結合了中國國情而形成的一種模式。所以,不要動不動就想推銷“中國模式”,別人 *不會接受*,也會 水土不服 。

  第四大殘酷現實: 不要輕言戰爭 。
  如果40年前中國說不怕戰爭,那是一種底氣,因為我們窮,光腳的不怕穿鞋的。但,如果你現在還說“不怕戰爭”,那是一種虛張聲勢。因為你已經“相當”富裕,你的北上廣深大城市已經與世界上任何大城市可以媲美。“羅馬城不是一日建成的”,但 “毀掉羅馬城瞬間就可以實現” 。
  美國人是世界上最怕戰爭的,因為他有最繁華的城市群,所以美國要發展世上最強大的軍隊,目的就是要 “拒戰爭於萬里之外” ,絕不讓戰爭在本土發生。中國現在還沒有這個能力,中國若與強大的敵人戰爭,必然是 *本土戰爭*,我們壯大軍隊不是渴望戰爭,而是要 *防止把戰爭引入家門*/。

  第五大殘酷現實: 中國永遠都是一個發展中的國家 。
  我們的朋友圈永遠在第三世界。要牢記:西方那些發達國家是不會帶我們玩的,在他們的眼中 永遠有“優越感” 。 *西方永遠瞧不起我們的價值觀*,永遠認為中國“落後”。在西方人眼裡,永遠都存在 “東西方差異” 。千萬不要認為可以融入西方世界,天真地認為可以與 西方平起平坐 ,中國與歐美僅僅是 生意關係 ,是 做不了真朋友的 。

  第六大殘酷現實 不要主動去向世界承諾什麼,更不要用錢去買地位,充當世界領袖 。
  真正的領袖都不是主動申請的,而是 受命於危難 ,都是 被人強推上位的 。所以,領袖不好當,吃力不討好。如果你成了世界領袖,那麼必須要放棄許多,全世界都要跟你玩“貿易順差”,你卻又不敢有脾氣。如果這領袖好當, 美國就不會混的現在這麼慘了 (在川普眼裡,美國混的最慘,是世界級的大傻瓜)。

  第七大殘酷現實: 中國已經回不去了 ,不可能因為“摸著石子過河”陷入了深水區就妄想退回去。
  時光不會倒流,不可能因為害怕風險而停止這場遊戲。從開始打開國門的那一天起,我們注定沒有回頭路可走, 國門必須是越開越大,陷阱必然是越走越多 。 *不能輕言放棄*,更 *不能 “好了傷疤忘了疼”*。

  第八大殘酷現實: 不能為了追求“多快好省”而“超速上癮” ,不要動不動就犯“大躍進”的毛病, 不要炫耀所謂“彎道超車” 。

  不是因為你技術好,僅僅是一種僥倖。遵守規則從來就不是墨守陳規,講究信用也不是呆傻愚鈍。所有投機取巧的鑽空子結果都會是互相傷害, 出來混總要還的,越強大的人越把規則當生命看待 。

  第九大殘酷現實: 你今天超越了別人,明天別人就會超越你 。超越強者不是為了證明你的強大,而是要讓民眾享受到做強者的好處。
事實證明:*真正聰明的人願意永遠是一個追隨者*,而 不願意成為一個超越者 。也許你覺得韜光養晦無法顯出英雄本色,但低調做人恰恰是深藏不露高手的基本素質。

第十大殘酷現實: 所有用錢買來的朋友都靠不住 。
“誰是我們的敵人?誰是我們的朋友?這是革命的首要問題”,真正的朋友恰恰是經常公開爭吵的、互相懟罵的。在你渴望用錢去收買別人的時候,一不小心就被別人利用了。真正強大的國家不是因為錢多而吸引別人,而是你的 價值信仰 和 執政理念 *深深讓人折服*。
  現實往往都是 殘酷 的,甚至是 殘忍 的。但是,許多時候並不是因為殘酷而使人不敢正視現實,僅僅是因為 缺乏自信而曲解了現實 。

 王毅

2023-02-27 18:33

supersaiyan3

sslee, despite what's in the passage is right, it's still a fake news.

2023-02-27 19:05

supersaiyan3

俄烏戰爭打到今天,已是涇渭分明!俄羅斯已是明日黃花,剩下的疑問只是普京會不會試著毀滅世界大家一起死。(當然俄沒有能力毀滅世界)。

中方到底支持不支持俄方好呢?正常人的思維都是不要支持的好。但對於愚蠢、衝動的統治者卻不一樣,不能以常理度之。(就好像一些輸到底褲都脫掉的股民一樣,還天天寫文章以為自己是股神,不能以常理度之啊!)

明知要輸,卻依然下更大的注碼,那是賭徒性格!只是對手是全世界經濟總量的百份之六十!你以為有錢,對手比你有錢很多倍。

如果你認識習近平,就知道他並沒有領導者任何的睿智,反而跟他的第一份挑夫工作很像。挑百斤十里不換肩固然是「 硬朗」,但為什麼要不換肩呢?廣東人講「唔識轉膊」,就是「死牛一邊頸」的意思。所以,合理的預期是習近平會繼續下注,直到威脅到他生命的前一刻停止。

面對特朗普,習在最後一刻妥協了,卻面對更大的代價。所謂動態清零毫不動搖,他也動搖了。所以,俄烏戰爭他也會死撐一段日子,直到撐不下去。天佑中華的話,也許就迎來改革開放2.0了。

2023-02-27 19:18

IDQWE001

I agree Xi is not a smart leader compare to Jiang & Hu. Zero covid movement is totally failed. Alliance with Putin to challenge the world 60% GDP western alliance is mission impossible. Only those who have not the full picture of the current international affair will believe Xi is able to change the world order in near future especially those who live in Malaysia, Singapore, Cambodia, North Korean, Russia etc.

2023-02-27 21:28

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