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Learn from All In Hotel: Don’t rush to apologise, take the bull by the horns by consulting Muslim religious experts
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Publish date: Tue, 09 Apr 2024, 09:12 AM
IN the aftermath of Vern’s Holdings Sdn Bhd apologised for having cast confusion over the controversial design element found on the sole of some of its ladies’ footwear. a number of sensible Muslim netizens rallied behind the shoe wholesaler while questioning the logic of the company having to give in “so easily” to religious bigots.
“The first rule of apologising is that you automatically acknowledge your guilty … I know the owner wants to be gentle and settle quickly but it won’t be that easy,” penned Farhanisme (@HannZiq) on the X platform with netizens concurring that the owner shouldn’t have reacted hastily but gave the matter a thorough thought first.
Interestingly, Vern’s was soon vindicated when an academicism from Universiti Teknologi Mara (UiTM) claimed that the logo which has caused Muslim uproar after defiant UMNO Youth chief Dr Muhamad Akmal Saleh intervened in the matter does not match the holy word in terms of the art of ‘khat’ (a form of Malay-Arabic calligraphy).
Associate Prof Dr Nor Azlin Hamidon who lectures in visual art culture, Islamic art and calligraphy said that this was because the logo has excess lines which damaged the writing of the word ‘Allah’.
“From the point of view of the khattat (calligrapher), the logo does not conform to any traditionally accepted calligraphy method, hence the design is in the category of free calligraphy,” the deputy president of Persatuan Seni Khat Kebangsaan told Bernama yesterday (April 8).
Apart from seeking calligraphy experts, perhaps business owners in Vern’s situation can also consult mufti in their respective state as in the case of the proprietor of the All In Hotel (see main image) in Perlis.
This has led to the state’s mufti Datuk Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin cautioning the public against creating unnecessary issues given that some quarters alleged that the name of the hotel resembled the word “Allah” in Arabic script.
“The (non-Muslim) owner has started to worry because many items have been printed using that name,” penned Mohd Asri in a recent Facebook post.
“I asked the objector ‘what was written by the hotel owner?’ They answered: ‘All in’. I then asked: ‘So, what’s the problem?’. They answered: “It looks like an inscription of Allah”. I said: ‘He didn’t write Allah, only you guys see it as Allah. The letters are clear - All in - not Allah.”
The moral of the story is obvious. It is important for business owners not to take the easy way out by apologising for a mistake that never was. Sue the perpetrators till their pants drop if necessary to start a precedent.
Otherwise, ‘the prophecy’ of social activist and human rights lawyer Siti Kasim may just come true. - April 9, 2024
https://focusmalaysia.my/learn-from-all-in-hotel-dont-rush-to-apologise-take-the-bull-by-the-horns-by-consulting-muslim-religious-experts/
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And counterattack is the best defense. Go after the gang who slanders. Sue them for compensation
2 weeks ago
This has led to the state’s mufti Datuk Mohd Asri Zainul Abidin cautioning the public against creating unnecessary issues given that some quarters alleged that the name of the hotel resembled the word “Allah” in Arabic script.
“The (non-Muslim) owner has started to worry because many items have been printed using that name,” penned Mohd Asri in a recent Facebook post.
“I asked the objector ‘what was written by the hotel owner?’ They answered: ‘All in’. I then asked: ‘So, what’s the problem?’. They answered: “It looks like an inscription of Allah”. I said: ‘He didn’t write Allah, only you guys see it as Allah. The letters are clear - All in - not Allah.”
2 weeks ago
We can see taugeh forming Arabian words. Because Arabian words are curvy in comparison to Roman words. Even when I make marble cakes, I can read a few arabica words. How? Banning marble cake from being sold???
2 weeks ago
I caution cake houses. They better check all their cakes, whether there are a few arabica words from naturally before selling. Or else you are facing the risk of boycotting. How???
2 weeks ago
I caution cake houses. They better check all their cakes, whether there are a few arabica words *form naturally before selling. Or else you are facing the risk of boycotting. How???
2 weeks ago
It sounds like you stumbled upon an intriguing situation! To lodge a report about the words in your coffee and the taugeh forming Arabian words, you might want to contact the appropriate authorities, such as food safety agencies or local health departments. They can investigate the matter further and determine if any action needs to be taken regarding coffee drinking or marble cake sales. It's essential to provide them with as much information as possible to ensure a thorough investigation.
2 weeks ago
I saw those words in my freshly brew coffee. Need to ban coffee drinking. How can I lodge a report?
Posted by Income > 10 minutes ago | Report Abuse
We can see taugeh forming Arabian words. Because Arabian words are curvy in comparison to Roman words. Even when I make marble cakes, I can read a few arabica words. How? Banning marble cake from being sold???
2 weeks ago
To investigate all the logos of all companies and products, jakim needs more than rm10bil funding per year- need more manpower
Look at maxis logo. Can you see the A word?
2 weeks ago
No need manpower you just need an AI to look into all the logos of all companies and come out with the allowed and disallowed list or a boycott list.
2 weeks ago
AI can't go around and confiscate goods to distribute to kampung folks as raya gift. Afterall 99% of the over a billion annual fund goes to salary .
Posted by Sslee > 7 minutes ago | Report Abuse
No need manpower you just need an AI to look into all the logos of all companies and come out with the allowed and disallowed list or a boycott list.
2 weeks ago
What happen next to the 1,145 Vern shoes siezed? No news after that? Nobody questioned who can keep the shoes or return them to the shop owner as at today?
2 weeks ago
Next they are owning up their mistake and making up for it - to pay compensation for damage to the goodwill and incovenience caused
Posted by StartOfTheBull > 40 minutes ago | Report Abuse
What happen next to the 1,145 Vern shoes siezed? No news after that? Nobody questioned who can keep the shoes or return them to the shop owner as at today?
2 weeks ago
Since Vern' already apologise and acknowledge that there are shortcomings in the logo’s design that could lead to misinterpretation, thereby offending the feelings of many parties.
Hence what do you expect to happen next?
The question to be asked is why business owners take the easy way out by apologising for a mistake that never was. Shouldn't the busniess owners take legal action against perpetrators till their pants drop if necessary to start a precedent?
Vern’s Holding said the logo design, imprinted on the sole, “was inspired by the image of interconnected lines resembling a high-heeled shoe”.
"We acknowledge that there are shortcomings in the logo’s design that could lead to misinterpretation, thereby offending the feelings of many parties,” the statement said.
“We have absolutely no intention of designing a logo aimed at belittling or insulting any religion or belief. The management would like to humbly apologise and seek forgiveness. We hope for compassion so we can rectify this mistake,” the statement said.
2 weeks ago
if they wish to find fault, they will find one, nothing you can do about it, apologise or not.
2 weeks ago
Absolutely. Just because neighbour complains, these officers are coming to investigate the garden in my backyard. Say pattern like khat wording with A......... can be found on the grass that I step on every morning. Fuyoh
Posted by icecool > 2 hours ago | Report Abuse
if they wish to find fault, they will find one, nothing you can do about it, apologise or not
2 weeks ago
StartOfTheBull
What happen next to the 1,145 Vern shoes siezed? No news after that? Nobody questioned who can keep the shoes or return them to the shop owner as at today?
10/04/2024 12:20 PM
The real problem is how to confiscate all the high heels Vern shoes already being sold to the Non? Have to check whole land one by one??? Anyone has any idea?
2 weeks ago
Sslee
Since Vern' already apologise and acknowledge that there are shortcomings in the logo’s design that could lead to misinterpretation, thereby offending the feelings of many parties.
Hence what do you expect to happen next?
The question to be asked is why business owners take the easy way out by apologising for a mistake that never was. Shouldn't the busniess owners take legal action against perpetrators till their pants drop if necessary to start a precedent?
Sslee Sir,
They biz owners don’t dare to not apologising (what more to say Vern wants to sue people) because They are the majority buyers… will boycott till biz owners crying non stop???
2 weeks ago
Sslee Sir, over there indon got these sightings issues. Or indon are too lower IQ to voice out these sightings??? Please share.
2 weeks ago
Ya lo, Sslee. Masis logo is Arabian word. How come 30 years already no one complain?
2 weeks ago
Come on. Prince Charming had done that to search for Cinderella - yes, everyone in the land
Posted by Income > 11 minutes ago | Report Abuse
......Have to check whole land one by one?
2 weeks ago
It’s impossible to find the word in Mandarin characters. It’s easy to find Arabian words in Starbark coffee, marble cake, taugeh sellers or abstract paintings. Because Arabian words are cursive naturally. Oh no. Do I need to ask my friend to use magnifying glass to check his abstract paintings for Arabian words before exhibition to selling them?
2 weeks ago
Absolutely. Just because neighbour complains, these officers are coming to investigate the garden in my backyard. Say pattern like khat wording with A......... can be found on the mattresses that I step on every morning. Fuyoh
Posted by Income > 20 seconds ago | Report Abuse
It’s impossible to find the word in Mandarin characters. It’s easy to find Arabian words in Starbark coffee, marble cake, taugeh sellers or abstract paintings. Because Arabian words are cursive naturally. Oh no. Do I need to ask my friend to use magnifying glass to check his abstract paintings for Arabian words before exhibition to selling them?
2 weeks ago
EngineeringProfit, i just realise that your thumbnail sports car pic has two green Arabian words. Please take them down. Faster lo.
2 weeks ago
Below or above waist? If above, no problem
Posted by Income > 24 seconds ago | Report Abuse
EngineeringProfit, i just realise that your thumbnail sports car pic has two green Arabian words. Please take them down. Faster lo.
2 weeks ago
Stop fanning this issue - gonna give them opportunity to push ahead their hidden agenda. After all, ignorance is not an excuse. Now they have found a way to force vernacular schools to hire their tens of thousands of arabic graduates from middle east to teach khatoon.
2 weeks ago
If everything coming to an peaceful end, that’s good. But anyway, Vern name has already becoming a famous household name. Company no need to advertise anymore.
2 weeks ago
Of course, not. Don't insult the ultimate creator of everything - surely is in everything, everywhere after all. BIG DEAL!!
Posted by Income > 20 seconds ago | Report Abuse
.......Do I need to ask my friend to use magnifying glass to check his abstract paintings for Arabian words before exhibition to selling them?
2 weeks ago
Ya lo, khatoon will be compulsory for all after this because to educate all people of Arabian words. So that Non will have no more excuses not knowing about Arabian words. Betul?
2 weeks ago
Yes, and jakim will need triple of current funding because all the logos, brands and designs will need to apply for its approval
Posted by Income > 1 minute ago | Report Abuse
Ya lo, khatoon will be compulsory for all after this because to educate all people of Arabian words. So that Non will have no more excuses not knowing about Arabian words. Betul?
2 weeks ago
And zero unemployment rate for the mm then....only NM got unemployment....hehe
2 weeks ago
Stop fanning this issue - gonna give them opportunity to push ahead their hidden agenda.
2 weeks ago
Above waist also provocative because of kena the twin meatballs. Please take them down. Faster lo
EngineeringProfit
Below or above waist? If above, no problem
Posted by Income > 24 seconds ago | Report Abuse
EngineeringProfit, i just realise that your thumbnail sports car pic has two green Arabian words. Please take them down. Faster lo.
10/04/2024 9:43 PM
2 weeks ago
Stop fanning this issue - gonna give them opportunity to push ahead their hidden agenda.
2 weeks ago
In the realm of cheap poliTIKUSing, where human errors are magnified, and flames fan the fires of an intolerant, unforgiving, and insane community, the lines between truth and manipulation blur into a dangerous dance of rhetoric and deceit.
2 weeks ago
Barang mahal wei, bila nak settle. Mana isu kos hidup Tak boleh rakyat tanggung lagi. Tenggelam ?
2 weeks ago
That's too complicated, dear. 21st century challenges, huh? We are still struggling to ensure everyone believe, respect and conform to a medieval ideology, system and education - DON'T YOU GET IT!? And you expect contemporary problems of new millennium to be addressed and solved by using caveman's formulae???
Posted by Income > 1 minute ago | Report Abuse
Barang mahal wei, bila nak settle. Mana isu kos hidup Tak boleh rakyat tanggung lagi. Tenggelam ?
2 weeks ago
Please have the patience to let us take it one step at a time.
Firstly, we are focussing on implementing the old system effectively
2 weeks ago
And so on so forth.....
And you expect us to just jump to face and solve the postmodern days' problems? And plan ahead into the future of AI and IR5.0????
2 weeks ago
Please learn to be patient. Not until we are totally burnt out by stirring up, reviving and reliving all the suffering, delusions, problems and challenges of the medieval past, we will not chart a course towards a brighter future.
Posted by Income > 1 minute ago | Report Abuse
Barang mahal wei, bila nak settle. Mana isu kos hidup Tak boleh rakyat tanggung lagi. Tenggelam ?
2 weeks ago
Please have the patience to let us take it one step at a time.
Firstly, we are focussing on implementing the obsolete medieval past system effectively
Secondly, we have not indulged enough in arguing over issues, delusions and ideology faced by the medieval past
Thirdly, we are currently too overwhelmed, obsessed and occupied with these many local successful businessmen who challenge our creator in their many creative ways that you could ever imagine
2 weeks ago
Indonesia’s largest Islamic group says non-Muslims shouldn’t be called ‘kafir’
Bloomberg
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03 Mar 2019, 08:01 PM
140 million-strong Nahdlatul Ulama says non-Muslim citizens have equal standing in state affairs.
2 weeks ago
JAKARTA: Indonesia’s largest Islamic organisation, Nahdlatul Ulama, has issued a call to end the usage of the term “kafir”, or infidel, to refer to non-Muslims in state or citizenship matters, a move that may be aimed at calming religious tensions ahead of the presidential election.
Nahdlatul Ulama, with around 140 million members, said at its recent National Conference that non-Muslims shouldn’t be referred to as “kafir” as they have equal standing in state affairs.
The conference concluded non-Muslims should be referred to as “muwathin,” or citizens with the same rights and obligations as Muslim Indonesians, according to Ahmad Muntaha, secretary of Nahdlatul Ulama’s East Java Ulama Assembly.
Muntaha said in a statement published on the group’s website on Friday that a Muslim shouldn’t address non-Muslims as “kafir” in any social context.
The conference also emphasised that as a state, Indonesia wasn’t established by Muslims only, the statement said.
2 weeks ago
Religious harmony in Indonesia
While Muslims make up 87 percent of the Indonesian population, Islam is not the country’s official religion. Instead, Indonesia highly values religious harmony, encapsulated in a state philosophy known as Pancasila, and its Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.
For both Muslim and Christian Indonesians, Allah has been used as the word for God for centuries. The Arabic word first spread to Southeast Asia in the 1100s as Muslim sultanates were established, and then was incorporated into the Malay language family, which includes Malaysian and Indonesian.
2 weeks ago
Toxic fanaticism poses significant challenges to the cohesiveness, inclusivity, and democratic values of pluralistic societies, leading to intolerance, conflict, discrimination, and psychological harm. Efforts to promote dialogue, tolerance, education, and respect for diversity are essential in countering the detrimental consequences of toxic fanaticism in pluralistic societies.
In a pluralistic society that values diversity and mutual respect, toxic fanaticism undermines the principles of pluralism by promoting exclusivity, homogeneity, and the imposition of a single worldview. This erodes the richness and complexity of pluralistic societies, hindering social progress and harmony.
2 weeks ago
Certain ruthlessly uncivilised terms and concepts will radicalise and poison children's mind for life?
2 weeks ago
As we fail to leave behind the darkness of antiquity and embracing the brilliance of a future unbound by the constraints of the medieval past, we'll neither be navigating the caverns of reform effectively; not illuminating the path forward with the torch of progress,
2 weeks ago
Certain ruthlessly unsuitable terms and concepts will radicalise and poison children's mind for life? It teaches:
Exclusivity: Certain interpretations may convey the idea that one's religion is the only true faith, potentially leading to feelings of superiority or exclusivity among children of that faith, which could hinder their ability to embrace diversity and coexist peacefully with others.
Intolerance Towards Others: Some unhealthy verses may contain language that encourages intolerance or hostility towards individuals of other faiths or beliefs, instilling divisive attitudes in children and undermining efforts to promote understanding and respect for diversity.
Discrimination: Certain teachings may imply or explicitly state that adherents of a particular religion are superior to those of other faiths, potentially fostering discriminatory attitudes among children and perpetuating social divisions based on religious identity.
2 weeks ago
Sslee
Religious harmony in Indonesia
While Muslims make up 87 percent of the Indonesian population, Islam is not the country’s official religion. Instead, Indonesia highly values religious harmony, encapsulated in a state philosophy known as Pancasila, and its Constitution guarantees freedom of religion.
For both Muslim and Christian Indonesians, Allah has been used as the word for God for centuries. The Arabic word first spread to Southeast Asia in the 1100s as Muslim sultanates were established, and then was incorporated into the Malay language family, which includes Malaysian and Indonesian.
11/04/2024 8:39 AM
Thanks Sslee Sir for your opinion about Indon religion harmony. That’s why Indon can move forward prosperously better than Harimaulaya.
2 weeks ago
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Toxic fanaticism poses significant challenges to the cohesiveness, inclusivity, and democratic values of pluralistic societies, leading to intolerance, conflict, discrimination, and psychological harm. Efforts to promote dialogue, tolerance, education, and respect for diversity are essential in countering the detrimental consequences of toxic fanaticism in pluralistic societies.
In a pluralistic society that values diversity and mutual respect, toxic fanaticism undermines the principles of pluralism by promoting exclusivity, homogeneity, and the imposition of a single worldview. This erodes the richness and complexity of pluralistic societies, hindering social progress and harmony.
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