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2022-08-15 13:45 | Report Abuse

Mini2021....lol...like they said it is the karma time for the gloves maker...need to vomit back the profits after producing/donating gloves during pandemic to our healthcare workers treating our emak bapa abang adik isteri suami, providing job opportunities to the next generation of bolehland citizens from the west to the east...saddening....

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2022-08-15 13:37 | Report Abuse

MrNatsuko, dnex up 92sens, under consideration for my shares portfolio ...definitely looking into it, thank you.

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2022-08-15 12:52 | Report Abuse

Mini2021, truly agreed with you on this interest of cash...just a matter survival of the fittest

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2022-08-15 12:50 | Report Abuse

Nepo, agreed with you too doubting our bolehland guys stronger than the american....much are to be seen in the coming days...from our side here as a citizen of bolehland

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2022-08-15 12:35 | Report Abuse

Kk7198......Wow...2mil shares with hundred of thousands of dividend, cant blamed him for still holding on

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2022-08-15 12:17 | Report Abuse

Quirkyways, still ongoing DCA on harta?

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2022-08-15 12:13 | Report Abuse

kk7198, as a first day owner of harta shares, i thought you are suffering now with the holding, still buying?

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2022-08-14 16:17 | Report Abuse

Anonymous91, thank you for sharing

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2022-08-13 18:04 | Report Abuse

Aiyoh..no arguelah...you guys said harta good business good bargain....goodloh....dare not say buy or sell here, good bargain nanti kena cakap disillusioned, bought day one, suffering...lol

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2022-08-13 14:32 | Report Abuse

Quirkyway, since you have raised this point, any further comments?

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2022-08-13 14:30 | Report Abuse


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/aug/12/joe-biden-xi-jinping-meeting-taiwan

This point was first raised by Quirkyway on China Taiwan with the involvement of US, thank you Quirkyway. One issue that involved the interest of all the Malaysia gloves manufacturers

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2022-08-13 12:13 | Report Abuse

US seems like a bit protective of their own industry with trade barriers especially against China and US is one of the biggest market among the Malaysia gloves manufacturers

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2022-08-13 12:10 | Report Abuse

Just bout competition from big giant producers China in their products, referring to market share, issue between china and taiwan that probably give us the advantage in the market share of gloves

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2022-08-13 12:02 | Report Abuse

I just dont know...yes everybody joined the race but does everybody has the capabilities to survive long term? Gloves business really not easy peasy business...MrT please excuse me for putting the point here, not encouraging sell or buy on harta shares....lots to be seen in the coming days which i have no idea what await us even in our overall share market here with the political ongoing.

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2022-08-13 11:56 | Report Abuse

Chips Acts to protect their own market from the rest, especially China or National Security? I wonder

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2022-08-13 11:54 | Report Abuse

Great points here...I read articles referring to these news on gloves factories set up in the US with request from assistance from the US gov. In term of economy of scale, experience and definitely much higher cost to operate, who has the most advantage here? What happen if touchwood China evades Taiwan with sanction from US in addition to the trade barriers between the two....are we the malaysia glove manufacturer has the opportunities here in the market share?

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2022-08-13 11:49 | Report Abuse

I did looked into your suggestion on Dnex and try to find out more through article, reading, finding facts on china competition and these questions raised up to my concerns and interest? The background history of Dnex, silterra, markets change especially on these big powers countries. That is the reason I would really like to get the opinions of the experts out here. Even shares in my portfolio are facing competition though yet to affect my consistent dividend recived so far.

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2022-08-13 10:56 | Report Abuse

Mr Natsuko one want to sell doesnt mean all want to buy...like the latest ban of cheap china made smartphone in India? Like I refer to Mr Lee, how bout the big market in US, any effect due to the relationship between China and US on trade and taiwan issue. Even now US came out with Chips Act to protect their own US market? Any comments?

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2022-08-13 10:34 | Report Abuse

True...lots of uncertainties and possibilities lie ahead.... but MrLee, how bout the market shares when it comes to disagreement between the big power China and US, both on trade and taiwan issues...any comments?

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2022-08-13 10:17 | Report Abuse

Agreed with you too, buy at low disposed at hike

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2022-08-13 10:05 | Report Abuse

MrNatsuko...my portfolio are really full with harta still in hand. Will think bout your suggestion on Dnex. What I read is Dnex has the record of shares dilution in the past, any comment?

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2022-08-13 10:02 | Report Abuse

Besides Warren Buffet, Charlie Munger is also my favourite.....much respected investors

https://youtube.com/shorts/69i83CQ9O6U?feature=share

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2022-08-13 09:54 | Report Abuse

Ms/Mr NatsukoMishima, agreed with you too, based on facts in open book.

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2022-08-13 09:52 | Report Abuse

MrT u cut losses based on your intelligent decision making, good for you...the price is zooming down now. I am the old timer still holding my shares due to my past consistent return, well it is my decision. Latest fortunefire, berbolabiru go for buy2, it is their intelligent decision making. We agree to disagree on our decision making, thats all.

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2022-08-13 09:28 | Report Abuse

Everybody out here are intelligent investors, which i believe including you Mr T and also Windy1974, Bangmiskin, jocelyn, Quirkyways, Mini2021 etc. We agree to disagree.

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2022-08-13 09:22 | Report Abuse

It is all bout constructive discussion, agree to disagree...i definitely agree with the 90% commented on the price goin down, it is out in open black and white...but telling people to go holland with their shareholding,  cry daily at night no sleep...for those people who really make losses down to their last saving due to the downturn now, dont you think it is a bit too much which will affect these people emotionally and probably they will think side way taking their own life maybe....the whole goin down the hill price is definitely aint good news though the co still very much in order, making profits.  We all are responsible for our own investment but we also responsible to come out with constructive comments making sure we do not affect feelings of other people as well. Everytime talking bout my investment, i will always quote it is up to the intelligent investors out there to make their decision on the investment, there is definitely no advise whatsoever to buy or sell the shares of harta.

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2022-08-13 09:01 | Report Abuse

Toxin is nothing to do with the share price, the up and down

As quoted here :
Windy1974
As a forumer, if you are here to argue why Harta is not a buy yet, great. I think so too. However, if you aren't sure where to invest your money, or your alternatives are Gpacket, Serba, or 90% other KLSE companies, then i would say you are better off in HARTA.
However, if you are here to savour the sufferings of HARTA shareholders, then i would like to congratulate you being like the rest 90% of i3 forumers. Your endings have been decided because you are just the 90%

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2022-08-13 08:55 | Report Abuse

We are all mature responsible investors, with top brain to work out our own investment fund, no cry baby here and cry out loud suffering every now and then when the share price goin up and down. Unable to brace through the up and down in the share market, walk away, full stop.

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2022-08-13 08:37 | Report Abuse

Suffering....well bosses suffering daily in their businesses same like any of us, hike in cost, labour problem get hentam left and right by the activist, blacklist by the authorities, local and foreign, due to labour issue, minimum wages, getting more clients, competition etc etc...profits of these businesses aint coming with rainbow up the sky.  At the end of every month people lives by paycheck suffering to catch up with the hike in cost of living while bosses cracking their brains every end month to ensure employees are paid even when businesses are bad especially during this downturn.  Who is not suffering, just a matter of how one handle their lives their businesses, the rest that beyond anyone control like the mighty BigC among the poor rich young and old,  well we just pray to the mighty BigG up there. Period of suffering with the competitors, mighty big China....well lots of businesses are indeed suffering from the cheap mass production of household items to the chips making manufacturers, even smartphones are cheapest that India putting a ban on the sales of certain china produced phone. It is either you are in or you are out, survival of the fittest.

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2022-08-13 08:07 | Report Abuse

Gloves are essential healthcare product to save lives, not purposely produced and making profits at the expense of  lives. Pfizers came up with the vaccine to save lives and making billions of profits, are they considered getting their karma when the pandemic down to 0, no longer making profits in the coming days? How many lives were  saved during the peak of the pandemic with the vaccine and gloves , the coming days as well. Competition exist in every businesses, we have chatime tealive and all sorts of other bubble tea brands out there....what else is new, it all goes back to survival of the fittest. As a shareholder and should be the same as the rest out there including the management, nobody pray day and night for the exacerbation of the pandemic. Everybody suffer during the pandemic,  businesses the economy the welfare of every single life out there...we all know well the cycle of this uneventful pandemic, nothing good out of it at all. Harta with their hartanians, shareholders all the same as the rest of the people worldwide out there, are facing the same problem during the pandemic, some lose their loves one, spouse losing their jobs. For one, frankly I wish for 0 pandemic and i believe the same for Harta, touching lives as indicated in one of their past Annual Report, not taking lives.

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2022-08-13 07:08 | Report Abuse

A logical point here too on the share buy-back. Mini2021 and shrobin, agreeable with both of you guys. That is why I am kind of a partial on buying back shares by the management. Well, in the end of the day, it is up to the management on their decision making as they are the one behind the wheel steering the company to the right path during this difficult period.

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2022-08-12 23:29 | Report Abuse

Thanks Mini2021 for the info...totally agreeable with you.

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2022-08-12 22:13 | Report Abuse

I am partially agreed with bsinvestor on the share buy-back utilising the co cash in hand. What do you think, Mini2021?

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2022-08-12 22:13 | Report Abuse

Mini2021, is the land acquired located in Kedah and not Perak? Am I missing something here as there was another commentator said Perak as well. What I know so far Harta current  expansion is under review with no construction planning on this new land, am I correct?

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2022-08-12 21:26 | Report Abuse

Mr Fabien....isn't it a correct strategy to expand trying to grab a bigger market share while you can when there is a demand as staying stagnant will end up not able to catch up with the rest. Like the 90% said, China market is catching up, harta goin holland, lol....without expansion, there is no capability to compete at all. Business is all about competition, remain the same with the existing capacity no expansion, then based on what criteria advantage one company have to compete with their business rival in order not to lose out disappear from the market when there is no product differentiation at all as quoted by you. Harta did came up with innovative products like the AMG and Coat which according to Mini2021 they did contribute to the sales, is this considered as product differentiation. Capacity expansion hand in hand with innovative products, are these not viable, necessary to adequately equip the Company to face the challenge of market competition ahead them in the coming days?

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2022-08-12 20:46 | Report Abuse

Thank you Mr Terrence for the offer, will take note on it. Destructive criticism among the 90% still good in the learning process though may adopt the stance of walking away if it is over the board as advised by QuirkyWay, in addition guys here are entertaining as well with the words....definitely brighten up the boring day

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2022-08-12 19:23 | Report Abuse

Share buy-back already in the resolution to be tabled in the coming up AGM

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2022-08-12 18:47 | Report Abuse

Toilet paper shares with humangous big factory still operating as usual...ironic.....really need to see what is coming next

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2022-08-12 18:41 | Report Abuse

@CharlesT...Let mirror my head...not that big loh, very small head to fit a big hat, MrT....lol...only small potato man on the street shareholder like the rest of you out there...

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2022-08-12 18:11 | Report Abuse

CharlesT...those boys on the top smart handsome or not, i dont know lah...lol but one aspect here that i need to give them the thumb up here is the policy priority of looking after their employees they called hartanians, this clearly stated in their Annual Report on the thank you note. That I give them 5 stars...lol

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2022-08-12 17:54 | Report Abuse

Actually I am looking at constructive discussion here on the ongoing of harta shares, learn something new but end up with destructive criticism. Agree to disagree though since the number did continue rolling down but truly it is enjoyable reading the comments here with all those funny words, some really makes me rolling down to my stomach laughing non stop

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2022-08-12 17:35 | Report Abuse

Mr Tiruchelvam...it is a norm here in i3 getting all these sorts of comments...not telling you to harakiri for still holding harta shares now, just goin holland, should be very lucky already..lol

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2022-08-12 17:25 | Report Abuse

Aiseh...what to say anymore ....cost of investment recovered long ago....paper loss now on harta no effect on my tabung melabur ...continue receiving dividends like the rest of my other shares in my portfolio probably till the day harta closed shop like 90% of you guys said so....life still goes on waiting for pandemic monkey pox down to 0...time to melancong, every tomorrow is a blessing as long as you are kicking and alive

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2022-08-12 16:31 | Report Abuse

ks5S comment...lol....it is definitely an interesting period to continue follow up on the forum...really lelong2 price

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2022-08-12 15:58 | Report Abuse

Need to wait for the advise/response from the 90%, probably most still at work

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2022-08-12 14:40 | Report Abuse

According to the 90% here definitely no sleep at night with the paper loss...lol

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2022-08-12 14:01 | Report Abuse

Listen to the 90%

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2022-08-12 14:00 | Report Abuse

No comment from me especially on buy/sell bottom down same as before, since day 1 in the forum. Otherwise the 90% will stuff the big dead cat into my mouth for encouraging you guys to buy/sell and suffer with me, lol

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2022-08-12 13:54 | Report Abuse

Please kindly google on harta dividend history to find out more. The "sufferer" of harta shareholder here cannot influence, drag you guys to suffer with me on my holding in the company shares. Otherwise get hentam by the 90% here, lol