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2018-06-25 14:54 | Report Abuse

For a genuine retail investor , theoretically if he invests in shares of a listed company for long term , he can obtain gains through :- 1) receive dividend paid by the listed company or 2) gains on appreciation of the net worth of the listed company ( means the company makes profits throughout the years and also increase in value of the assets owned by the company , and the company distribute the worth by way of capital repayments ) .
If a retail buyer buys shares in BURSA MALAYSIA and sells the shares subsequently to another buyer or buyers at higher price ( either through contra or pick up and sell later ) , he makes capital gains from the market / subsequent buyers . There is nothing to do with the listed company . Theoretically , it is a zero sum game between the buyers and the sellers .

In other words , any gain or loss arising from the buying and selling of shares in the market is business between buyers and sellers only . Almost all the listed companies have their own sharks or agents will take care of the daily transactions and try to make gains from the daily trading . It is only the size of the sharks and the other agents acting on their instructions . The agents for this company are mainly in TA , HWANGS , CIMB , KENAGA and RHB .

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2018-06-22 14:50 | Report Abuse

Most of the buyers and sellers are from the same group of people . They will square off their positions at the end of the day . They will calculate whether they are in net buy or net sell positions during the trading of the day . If they are in net sell positions ( sold a lot of shares to retail buyers ) , the next few days the retail buyers will be having problems .

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2018-06-22 14:40 | Report Abuse

Some writers can't even understand the meaning of if , unless , subject to .

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2018-06-22 14:06 | Report Abuse

At present and for the next few months , subject to world crude oil price crash below to USD 35 within one or two months , we are unlikely to see the company's shares price drop below 40 sen again
unless retail buyers suddenly buy more than 100 millions shares within few weeks then the sharks Will push down to 40 sen again .

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2018-06-22 13:55 | Report Abuse

Congratulations to those who made few rounds profits within 3 months from 15 March 2018 - 12 June 2018 . For those who bought @ 0.40 (15 March ) and sold @ 0.795 ( 17 April ) made almost 100 % returns , and bought again on 2 May @ 0.62 and sold @ 0.9 on 14 May , made 50 % returns . 3rd round bought @ 0.535 on 1 June and sold on 12 June @ 0.69 , made 26 % returns . For those who bought @ 0.395 - 0.41 on 15 March 2018 and still holding the shares may be can make 300 % within a year or may suffer a loss of 25 % ??? . Besides the fundamental and the financial positions of this company , we may be curious why some analysts were in hurry to make 3 sell recommendations in a month ( 9 March 2018 - 29 March 2018 ) when there were no major announcement made by the company itself , but have not made any recommendation since April 2018 even though the company made many announcements especially in relation to winning of contracts . For short term ( from intraday to one or two months ) , good or bad news may not affect the fluctuations of the shares price , it is the intentions or plans controlled by the sharks ( except some cases like acquisition which is due for announcement , and the acquisition price is much higher than the market price ) . From what we observed in BURSA MALAYSIA history , If a listed company is going to close shop due to financial problems , the company's shares would be traded actively everyday for few months without sharp rebound to prevent retail buyers from getting out from the trap . Some companies may announce some fake news like found white knight in order for them to distribute their shares to the retail buyers .

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2018-04-12 12:12 | Report Abuse

If all retail buyers in this forum sell all their SAPNRG shares to the sharks @ 0.72 now , tomorrow the price can hit 1.00 .

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2018-04-12 11:01 | Report Abuse

Every counter has its own shark to control , is only the size of the sharks whether is small , medium , big or.big , big sharks .

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2018-04-12 10:58 | Report Abuse

Nowadays , it is very difficult for retail buyers to play contra , not like the years 1993 -1996 , and 1999 - 2000 , because 80 - 90 % of genuine retail buyers were knocked out

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2018-04-12 10:55 | Report Abuse

For those who had bought @ 0.47 on 9 March 2018 and prepared to take a journey with the sharks for two years , can enjoy a minimum of 40 % returns within a month . The worst and the lowest of 0.395 were over . No need to prepare for cut loss at 0.30 within two years . The biggest weakness of a retail buyers is they can not overcome their own weaknesses . I.e can not face with even a calculated risk or a minimum loss . With so many good news come out , the worst case is we may suffer a loss of 30 sen
( 0.70 - 0.40 ) for the next two years . If the crude oil price can maintain at the range between USD 55 - 80 for the next one to two years , the return could be doubled or even much higher . As Mr KYY always says , we must know the future prospects of the company for the next two to three years . Those analysts who said target price at 40 sen because they are wearing rooolex watch and using monblantt pen , just to influence the thinking of retail buyers . Same case when WASEONG was traded around 0.70 , the writer said target price below 0.50 and FGV around 1.40 , they said target price 1.29 . Same for many other cases . They just want to prevent retail buyers from buying !!!

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2018-03-27 19:25 | Report Abuse

GLBHD ( TANAMAS ) doubled the price.from 1.0 to 2.00 in May -July 2015 .LBS shot up from 0.88 - 2.00 from April year.2013 . Dutalnd 75 - 90 sen good enough .

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2018-03-13 09:03 | Report Abuse

Pls don't use the 30 or 40 years outdated direct sales method . Don't you know WARREN BUFFET number one powerful weapon is WAIT ! WAIT ! and WAIT only .

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2018-03-13 08:16 | Report Abuse

Sharks's kaki , please tell the public at which date DUTALND shares price hit 14 sen over the last twenty years ??? If the sharks can push down the price to 14 sen to collect 200 millions shares , they could have done much earlier .

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2018-03-11 22:01 | Report Abuse

I have read some articles about some interviews between journalists and funds managers some years ago , most of.them had a view that there were lack of liquidity in the BURSA Malaysia . Now it looks like SAPNRG has the liquidity . Anyhow , if a big fund ( not a gang of this group of sharks ) suddenly grab 20 or 30 millions shares of this counter , I think the volume Will be reduced substantially for few days . As I said , luckily it is listed in BURSA MALAYSIA , or else it could have been taken over by China man if consence is given .

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2018-03-11 20:03 | Report Abuse

For this counter at 0.47 , the maximum you can lose is 0.47 per share if you are not playing contra . You can easily cut loss at anytime at 30 sen if you can take it or you can enjoy the journey with the sharks for two years or may take profit at anytime within two years if you wish .

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2018-03-11 19:49 | Report Abuse

Warrant BUFFET says the first.factor to consider in shares investment is can not lose money , the second is remember the first factor . Anyhow he Can hardly buy at the lowest . He is either average up or average down or buy when there is a panic selling without any fundamental change or When there is a 50 % discount with fundamental remained unchanged .

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2018-03-11 19:39 | Report Abuse

For the case of granite ( or tebrau , or iwcity now ) , granite traded around 0.30 in 1999 , and it shoot up to 2.50 in the same year . In 2006 , around 0.30 , shoot up to 2.50 again in 2007 and 0.80 in 2016 , shoot up to more than 3.0 in 2017 . Some penny stocks below 20 sen or 10 sen which have bad balance sheet and not even ten millions or 5 millions turn over a year , or very likely become PN 17 are very , very unlikely to be goreng up to 1.00 or what have happened in 1993 - 1997 , unless the sharks are.GILA and with intentions to be caught by SC. But SAPNRG is different from those penny stocks . Unless govt wish to discard it with everyone paying the price .

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2018-03-11 19:24 | Report Abuse

A lot of retail buyers were trapped at high price in many counters , for example MPI at RM10 more than 15 years ago , and it dropped below.3.0 , now around 8.80 , Renong , uemland , HENGYUAN , petronm any many , many other similar cases . Retail buyers who can afford the risks of 10 sen or 15 sen for a enjoyable journey should seriously consider . Those who want to cut loss should have done that at 3.0 or 4.0 , and like HUAAN , should have cut loss at 0.60 , 0.50 many years ago and not at 4 sen , 5 sen few months or a year ago .

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2018-03-11 18:44 | Report Abuse

For a small and affordable loss at this level , with chance of winning a mini jackpot or may be bigger , why not consider whether to join the journey for a one or two.years journey ride with the sharks ???

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2018-03-11 18:37 | Report Abuse

For those who bought 50 sen and below , you can enjoy a journey of one or two years before it collapsed and can easily cut lost at 30 sen and get out of the journey .

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2018-03-11 18:34 | Report Abuse

In the last twenty years history of BURSA Malaysia , we can't hardly name a leader company in a particular industry become PN 17 or delisted in just a short period. If this happen , we should be much happier than the big funds and sharks . For those who bought at 50sen and below should clap their hands because you may lose 50 k , or few hundred k but the big funds and sharks could have lost multi billions .

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2018-03-11 16:50 | Report Abuse

Even if a PN 17 counter like THHEAVY , the shares price rebounded from 0.06 to 0.26 within few weeks about 2 years ago .

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2018-03-11 16:39 | Report Abuse

Those comments from writers with a J , E , M , S..11 , K may have some links with them .

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2018-03-11 16:31 | Report Abuse

The sharks Macai with many accounts in different broking firms , especially HDBS , TA , KENAGA , CIMB , RHB and few foreign broking firms can just press down the price easily .

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2018-03-11 16:25 | Report Abuse

For those genuine forum users , they can make a recall to all the comments made earlier or much , much earlier when SAPNRG was trading above 2 , 3 or even 4 , they can find out those people who keep on asking others to cut loss at this level had never made such same comments before .

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2018-03-11 16:12 | Report Abuse

The sharks and the insiders have known the quarterly results on 31 Jan 2018 or may be few days before 31 Jan 2018 . The company's accounts should be computerized much more earlier . Don't tell the public if the company's accounts still be kept manually . If The sharks want to push up the price is very easy even without any good news . You can refer to 5 Jan 2018 - 9 Jan 2018 , the shares price shoot up form 0.70 - 1.05 within 3 - 4 days , more than 50 % . It is not so difficult . All controlled . Can refer Many counters shares price in August 2015 - Nov 2015 and also 30 November 2016 - 15 Dec 2016 .

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2018-03-11 15:13 | Report Abuse

Likely this counter listed in BURSA Malaysia , If listed else where , the China man can easily take over it .

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2018-03-11 15:04 | Report Abuse

The sharks can not collect the maximum shares the wanted , that is why they are delaying the pushing up of the shares price . If all retail buyers are still holding 50 millions shares , if the sharks push up 40 sen , they have to pay up additional 20 millions . For the case of FACBIND ,and TEXCHAM , the sharks pushed up almost double within few weeks . For LBS and TANAMAS ( GOLDEN LAND BHD ) , the sharks took more than 6 months to double the price because a lot of retail buyers were holding the shares .

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2018-03-11 14:49 | Report Abuse

For the UMWOG case , its shares price dropped to 0.28 , rebounded to 0.48 within a month in Jan 2018 , more than 60 % gain . Declared huge quarter losses , shares price maintained 0.30 - 0.32 . All shares movement are controlled by the sharks . Sometimes overpriced , sometimes deep undervalued . If a lot retail buyers buy the shares , they will press down the price . If All retail buyers sell the shares to the sharks , they will just push up the price . For some counters , the sharks have cornered the shares , the can push up easily .

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2018-03-11 14:36 | Report Abuse

If a counter's shares price has doubled , tripled , 5 times or ten time from its low within few months or a year , example , iwcity , HENGYUAN etc , you can just take most of your profit and if the shares price can not break high or go higher within a month with high volume traded , then just sell all your shares in that counter and look back the shares price after a year , you will know that you have made a right decision to sell a year ago .

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2018-03-11 14:25 | Report Abuse

If you have carried a thorough research or home work about this company , and if your conclusion is this company has no chance to rebound at all for the next two years and is going close shop then just cut loss and keep away from it . There are many other counters which had dropped to historical low for the last twenty years had rebounded five or ten times after one or two years . For example , RENONG 0.30 in year 1999 rebounded to more than 3.0 at the end of 1999 , uemland 30 sen in March 2006 rebounded to 5.0 in year 2007 , Mrcb 50 sen in 1999 to 5.00 in year 2000 . Iwcity in year 2016 0.75 to 2017 of more than 3.0 , PMETAL 1.40 before RI and BI in 2015 August to more than 5.00 this year . AIRASIA 0.8 - more than 4.0 in 2009 and 2015 - 2017 etc .

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2018-03-11 14:10 | Report Abuse

When ARMADA declared huge quarter losses in year 2016 , its shares price plunged to 0.505 , Now trading around 0.85 . For those can hold for another 1 or 2 years why worry now ?

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2018-03-11 14:01 | Report Abuse

This forum is meant for sharing of information and ideas , not for attacking others as we like . For those who are Macai of the sharks , please identify yourself if you are a man . Please respect others .

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2018-03-09 11:14 | Report Abuse

I have been learning from share market for more than 40 years and have gone through few market crises and I am still learning at this moment .

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2018-03-09 11:01 | Report Abuse

During the superbull between 1993 - 1996 , there were more than 2 millions cds active holders , but for last ten years , the genuine retail cds holders may be less than 100 k ?? If two millions genuine retail buyers buy 1000 shares in a day , the genuine traded volume can be easily more than 2 billions shares a day . As I mentioned before , The IB writers are either technically not sound ? Or due to wearing rolex and using moncbalanct pen which have affected their thinking. ? On 16 November 2017 , non of the six IBs recommended sell . Because at that time , the big sharks just wanted to start their huge selling , so they have to give at least hold or long-term buy recommendations . If you refer to IB's recommendations on WASEONG 2 years ago when its price was around 0.70 , the writer recommended to sell , target price below 0.50 . Now the target price keep on revising from 1.40 - 1.80 just within 40 days . Similar.case for FGV in year 2016 when it was trading around 1.30 , and the writer recommended sell , sell ! Within 3 months , FGV shoot up from 1.30 - 2.30 and many other similar cases . The sharks With the helping hands from the writers have eliminated a lots of genuine retail buyers for the past 10 years until almost all retail buyers have given up .

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2018-03-02 11:53 | Report Abuse

Sorry , the market cap should be more than 20 billions in year 2014 instead of 200 billions

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2018-03-02 11:51 | Report Abuse

From around 5.00 in Jan 2014 dropped to 0.625 and the market cap also dropped from more than 200 billions to less than 4 billions today . Number one oil and gas counter in Malaysia ??? Lucky is in Malaysia , even if foreigners take over also can not get the contracts locally , if not it could have been taken over . On 16 November 2017 , non of the IB recommended to sell ? The sharks keep on pressing down the price , May be they know it may be like UMWOG ? When WASEONG was trading around 0.70 in year 2016 , the writers kept on recommended sell , now the recommend buy , target price 1.70 - 1.80 ?
Over the last ten years , the trend has changed , when a counter's price is pushing up , very unlikely the price will retrace and bounce back again for few.times within the same day or if they push the price down , it is also unlikely the price will bounce back , or up down up down for few times in the same day . The sharks do not give chance to the retail buyers , that is why the retail buyers and punters have given up . Their money mostly channeled to property market and quick money games .

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2018-01-10 22:48 | Report Abuse

If UMWOG is worth 1.00 , do you think the sharks will push up the share price all the way up without any correction ??? So the retail buyers can just buy and keep without suffering then sell back to the sharks at high price ???? The sharks buy back at high price and later sell back to retail buyers at low price ??? A little bit funny ???

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2018-01-10 22:27 | Report Abuse

Like EDARAN , shoot up very fast from below 50 sens to over 80 sens few months ago then distributed , dropped back to 50 over sens , then within 2 days pushed up 80 sens again . Even like small sharks , Jetson , from 30 sens pushed up 50 sens , announced bad news , dropped back 30 sens , and pressed down slowly to 23.- 25 sens , now slowly picking up to 29 sens .

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2018-01-10 22:10 | Report Abuse

The sharks have collected most of their oils and gas shares at low price during last two years ,
very unlikely they will push down the share price to historical low again before they push up for this rally .

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2018-01-10 22:06 | Report Abuse

If there is no minor or bigger corrections along the way of pushing up , most or may be 99 % of the retail buyers will not sell their shares , Then all retail buyers buy at low price and sell to the sharks at high price . Later , the sharks sell most of their shares at low price to retail buyers and retail buyers buy back and sell back to the sharks at high price again ??? A bit funny ???

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2018-01-10 21:54 | Report Abuse

If you were the sharks , will you push up the share price all the way up to your target price without any correction ??? Look at the movements of HUAAN from 0.34 dropped to 0.19 before pushing up to 0.56 today , and also others like HENGYUAN , PETRONM , YTL , and many others

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2018-01-10 21:48 | Report Abuse

Most of the oil and gas counters down side is limited but upside is much more than that . The writers wearing Rolex and using montblanct pen will keep on saying the uptrend of crude oil will not be sustainable .

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2018-01-10 21:45 | Report Abuse

Most of the historical low of the oil and gas counters done in these two years will be their low before this rally ( may be except for financial difficulties companies ). If you look at Waseong , last one to two years like going to die , no power . Now hanging around 1.30 because the sharks have collected most of the shares which had been distributed before . A lots of oils and gas counters pushed up in these few days , will go up further . The up and down along the way to North are only the tactics of the sharks to make more profits and to scare the retail buyers and prevent them from buying low and make more profits for them

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2018-01-10 21:16 | Report Abuse

If SAPNRG's fair value is worth 1.50 as at today and all retail buyers bought from 1.20 and average down all the way to 0.665 like WARREN BUFFET and all retail buyers do not sell even a share , let the sharks play themselves , shark A sell to shark B , Shark B sell to shark. C , shark c sell to shark D and shark D sell to shark A again . Let them roll and roll , roll and roll , buy sell buy sell until 1.80 or 2.00 ,
then all the retail buyers start sell back all the shares to them , and in between all retail buyers never buy back a share , then the sharks have to close shop . Even if all the retail buyers have to wait for a year , or two years ,or three years . But in actual , many retail buyers bought at 1.20 , average down all the way to 0.9 and cut lost at 0.80 . Then bought again at 0.83 and cut lost at 0.70 , bought again at 0.73 and cut lost again at 0.67- 0.68 . When sharks pushed up to 0.73 , some retail buyers bought again at 0.75 made few sens , sold again then bought back at 0.88 and sold at 0.91 , but the sharks pushed up to 1.05 , the retail buyers bought back again from 1.03 to 0.94 , then the sharks pushed down to 0.855 again , so the retail buyers have to force sell their shares again . The retail buyers ended up made few sens gains but suffered 20 sens losses . The sharks will keep on doing the same way , on and on until 2.00 , and retail buyers make few sens but loss 20 - 30 sens each round .

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2018-01-10 14:32 | Report Abuse

Few weeks ago , the China Foreign Ministry spokesman said , while there were a lots of noises voiced out by the apes along the river , the boat had sailed through a lots of mountains along the river .

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2018-01-08 12:04 | Report Abuse

For those counters which are more tightly controlled like PERDANA , WASEONG , ICON , MHB , or even Barakah ( financial difficulties ??? ) , more easier to push up .

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2018-01-08 10:44 | Report Abuse

There are many counters have similarities with SAPNRG , like UMWOG. ARMADA , MHB , UEMS , MRCB , MALAKOF. FGV , ICON , ( THHEAVY , ,,but gone with the wind )

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2018-01-08 10:22 | Report Abuse

For those retail buyers who know how to homework and have done their homework and have deep
Knowledge about a particular company , they should not be affected by those writers who are using monblanct pen and wearing Rolex . When the share price is trading at historical low and the writers keep on saying negative comments then you can buy . But if the share price is trading at historical high range and the writers give good comments , then you should start taking profit . When the price starts picking up from the lower levels and the writers say not sustainable , then you hold or buy additional shares as long as the shares are trading at the lower levels .

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2018-01-08 09:58 | Report Abuse

How fast and how high the price will be pushing up today , the big sharks will see the reactions of the retail buyers. If retail buyers sold very much more than their purchase. The sharks will push higher .