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2018-02-06 15:56 | Report Abuse
Nasdaq future is green now.
2018-02-06 12:27 | Report Abuse
Posted by Jelas Ulung > Feb 6, 2018 12:25 PM | Report Abuse
More than 10% hrc transactions are mine :)
The share price has not hit lower low yet.
Still above 11.32.
No reason to cut loss.
This is my opinion only.
2018-02-06 12:25 | Report Abuse
Posted by filidon > Feb 6, 2018 09:35 AM | Report Abuse
never worry about DJI plunge 1000 point. Because the economic of USA had turned better due to increased payroll. The US market is concern only on hike rate and they dump the share.
I agreed with your statement. I believe we will do well in this cheap sale opportunity.
This is a rare opportunity.
Hope for the best.
2018-02-05 22:21 | Report Abuse
valuelucker,
Very good example. I agreed with you.
Always remember to buy good fundamental stock, nothing will go wrong.
2018-02-05 15:11 | Report Abuse
Posted by kenlee > Feb 5, 2018 03:05 PM | Report Abuse
how bout those people that create greed to other ? tp 22 lar, tp 40 lar, tp 100 lar
They talk with facts and figures. They show their calculation on EPS.
Did those people created fear show any calculation or factual information ? No.
Sell !! Sell is not information.
2018-02-05 15:07 | Report Abuse
Posted by 秦梦瑶 > Feb 5, 2018 02:07 PM | Report Abuse
:-)
I think you are very good in investing and mean business in your words.
I saw your beautiful photo.
2018-02-03 13:46 | Report Abuse
Posted by PureBULL . > Feb 3, 2018 01:19 PM | Report Abuse
Dear Zhuge_Liang,
Allow me to add something out of point.
Now we know HENGYUAN's certainly in GOOD hands with the greatest mind on earth.
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I cannot find any stock in KLSE with such explosive earning and low PER.
Hope to buy more when there is more correction.
My sifu made me a millionaire by buying into this stock in 2017.
2018-02-03 11:39 | Report Abuse
Posted by Vince Sinclair > Feb 3, 2018 11:22 AM | Report Abuse
Shandong Hengyuan has already reached Euro 6 standards actually.
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I agreed with your statement. It is true.
I had checked Google before I post, Euro 6 will be implemented effective 2020. Presently, still using Euro 5 in China. Hence I quoted Euro 5 only.
2018-02-03 09:53 | Report Abuse
Posted by 5354 > Feb 3, 2018 02:39 AM | Report Abuse
Why MD resign? 2017 QR cannot repeat in 2018? If he become MD in other companies sure a wanted man.
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Only white can run Hengyuan well ? Are PetrolChina and Sinopec run by white ?
Do not know whether China man can upgrade Euro 3 to Euro 4 or not ?
Please do not underestimate China man now. Please note that China is using Euro 5, not Euro 4 lah.
Shandong Hengyuan is 5th largest crude oil importer in China. Hengyuan is using Euro 5 in China.
Please do not continue to talk bad about Hengyuan because it is China man's stock.
Do you know China is the richest country in this planet. Has highest foreign reserve in this world.
I hope China investment funds do not disappoint the share price of Hengyuan in 2018.
2018-02-02 21:56 | Report Abuse
We, a group of followers of OTB are very faithful to OTB because OTB had helped us to make a lot of money in KLSE. OTB made everyone of us a millionaire.
We are full time investors, with good guidance from OTB, we made so much money until we do not believe.
We had lunch together very frequent, we knew the relationship between uncle Koon and OTB.
We trust OTB did not tell any lie to us. He is always very frank to us. He apologized to us when he made mistake.
He is an honest champ, why want to tell lies to bad mouth him.
2018-02-02 21:40 | Report Abuse
Anything uncle Koon did has nothing to do with OTB.
We just follow OTB only. We still buy Masteel even uncle Koon condemn it.
There is no partnership at all times.
OTB recommended stocks base on TA and FA, uncle Koon is his customer only.
2018-02-02 11:51 | Report Abuse
Posted by 秦梦瑶 > Feb 2, 2018 11:29 AM | Report Abuse
先定一个能达到的小目标,比方说19.88
China stock already has very bad reputation in KLSE, Hengyuan is supposed to be considered as blue chip to be.
I think all investors have lost confidence on China stock.
The profit of Hengyuan should be no 1 in KLSE, the share price does not reflect its true value.
Moreover, there is no support on share price of Hengyuan from Chinese fund.
The price can drop from 19.20 to 11.32 within a few days.
A big joke in town.
PetrolChina and Sinopec can trade at a PER > 100, PER of Hengyuan is < 5 also cannot support.
To China fund, I believe you can support share price of Hengyuan easily.
Please show us, not talking only.
Please do not disgrace the great China government who is the richest in this world now.
Can you make Hengyuan same as PetrolChina and Sinopec ?
秦梦瑶 ??? !!! Please do not just sweet talk only, beautiful autie of China.
2018-02-01 10:29 | Report Abuse
Jelas Ulung,
I have high respect on you because you talk with sense.
I think you will do well in your investment.
Do what you think best for yourself.
I just add my opinion that theoretically the price should not drop below 10.80 unless Q4 2017 is not good.
Wish you good luck.
2018-01-31 14:33 | Report Abuse
Posted by traderman > Jan 31, 2018 02:30 PM | Report Abuse
hy fully value lar
Show me your facts rather than a sweeping statement.
2018-01-31 14:27 | Report Abuse
There is no publicity on Hengyuan new management, many analysts want to visit them, they refused to meet all analysts.
They had realized it now, I understand that the new management will call all analysts for a beefing when Q4 2017 result is out.
The wrong perception will be changed after Q4 2017 result is out.
Hope it will help the share price of Hengyuan to reflect its true value.
2018-01-31 14:19 | Report Abuse
Base on many sifu projected earning of Hengyuan in 2018 to be around 2.50, at present price of 12.90, PER is 5.16.
Then compare Hengyuan with keppel refinery spore. Keppel P/E ratio is 15.
The fair price of Hengyuan should be 37.50.
If earning is 2.00 for 2018,
The fair price of Hengyuan should be 30.00.
No matter how you count, the price of Hengyuan is always undervalued because it is a China stock.
2018-01-31 14:11 | Report Abuse
Agreed with you.
Tung.
2018-01-31 14:06 | Report Abuse
I believe the earning of Hengyuan in 2018 can be good too. Of course it cannot be better than 2017.
I just want to say the share price of Hengyuan does not actually reflect the true earning.
Nestle is trading at a PER of 46, Hengyuan is trading at a PER of 3.5.
To me it is not a fair price of Hengyuan due to bad impression of China stock.
2018-01-31 13:50 | Report Abuse
You talk with facts, no one will delete your posts.
Many readers do not like to read nonsense or argue without fact writing.
2018-01-31 13:45 | Report Abuse
Please show me any stock in KLSE can show explosive earning like Hengyuan in 2017.
I believe the earning of Hengyuan is no 1 in KLSE.
Many people have a bad impression of China red chips, it affects the price of Hengyuan.
Moreover, there is no support on share price of Hengyuan from Chinese fund.
The stock price can drop from 19.20 to 11.32 within a few days affect the price sentiment of Hengyuan.
There is always no confidence on China stock listed in KLSE.
2018-01-31 13:33 | Report Abuse
FA of Sendai is not good, please be honest.
2018-01-31 12:44 | Report Abuse
Please do not always think that the white is always very good. China man is always backward and no material in their mind.
World had changed. Hengyuan new management can upgrade Euro 3 to Euro 4 at a cheaper price than Shell.
The new management is more efficient and able to deliver better result than Shell old management.
2018-01-31 11:19 | Report Abuse
stock market is always very cruel, the winner will win at the expense of loser. There are many dirty tricks to be a winner.
Please remember if you want to invest in stock market, never trust any person except yourself. Verify the facts and check your homework to ensure your probability to win is high.
Never ... never ... trust any person except yourself.
2018-01-30 15:51 | Report Abuse
The profit of Hengyuan should be no 1 in KLSE, no value in term of share price.
The price can drop from 19.20 to 11.32 within a few days.
A big joke in town.
2018-01-30 15:37 | Report Abuse
China stock already has very bad reputation in KLSE, Hengyuan is supposed to be considered as blue chip to be.
I think all investors have lost confidence on China stock.
To China fund, it is nothing to support Hengyuan share price. They choose to ruin the image of China stock.
Petrol China and Sinopec can trade at a PER > 100, PER of Hengyuan is < 5 also cannot support.
No hope.
2018-01-30 10:12 | Report Abuse
In this world, no stock is trading at such low PER for a refinery stock except Hengyuan.
PER is around 3.5 now.
Looking forward to 2018 earning, PER = 5.
Tell me any refinery stock in this world is trading a PER < 5.
2018-01-28 23:33 | Report Abuse
Please read the below link.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/rhinvest/145713.jsp
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According to Southeast Asia Iron and Steel Industries, the annual total steel consumption in Malaysia is about 10m tonnes for the past four years from 2013 to 2016, while the total capacity of the four major steel rebar maker in Malaysia is only 8.5m.
Historically, domestic steel demand was mainly supported by local production and cheap imports from China. Nevertheless, the scenario has changed since year 2016 after China committed to performing structural supply-side reforms in its steel sectors due to an overcapacity issue.
As a result, steel prices are trending up due to capacity elimination. There is not likely to see huge decline in global steel prices moving forwards.
Overall, most of the local steel companies are currently enjoying strong cash flows and reasonably good demand visibility in the intermediate term.
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Look like uncle Koon is wrong again, OTB is right again.
Demand of long steel bar is greater than supply of long steel bar.
Hence it is very important to do homework rather than listen to rumour.
2018-01-28 11:18 | Report Abuse
OTB promised his wife that he will not write in Hengyuan forum.
He told me to post the below information here for him. I am one of his followers.
OTB sold all his holding of Hengyuan at 14.68 (50%) and 17.48 (50%) respectively.
He bought back 10% of his previous holding at 16.64.
He already bought back balance 40% of his previous holding only from 12.52 to 15.10.
He told his followers not to buy back > 50% of previous holding to protect the profit made.
2018-01-25 16:13 | Report Abuse
5.25 sellers are real or not.
Block the price from moving up.
Gamuda-WE is real cheap, not much premium, a good buy if the mother share can cross 5.25.
2018-01-23 23:06 | Report Abuse
I heard rumour that the management of Hengyuan will give out 0.50 dividend after Q4 2017 result is out.
davidtslim also mentioned in his article.
https://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/davidtslim/144836.jsp
The management wants the public to have an impression that Hengyuan is a coming blue chip stock to be. The stock price will move up north automatically once 0.50 dividend is announced.
Please be patience to wait.
Hope this news is not a rumour, a true news.
2018-01-23 22:36 | Report Abuse
Any bank will not lend a big loan if the company is not well run and has a good management team.
BNM is also not so stupid to approve this big loan.
2018-01-23 21:38 | Report Abuse
Jon Choivo, please do not spread rumour on Mr OTB, he is only a small fly. In no way he is behind to push up Masteel.
He buys Masteel because both TA and FA are good.
OTB told his followers, he had retired from I3.
OTB posted his article here because someone bad mouth this stock.
2018-01-23 19:42 | Report Abuse
Value for money. Very low premium.
Cannot understand the reason this warrant cannot perform.
2018-01-23 07:24 | Report Abuse
I know Mr OTB is always talk with facts and figures, he does not like to tell lies. His excellent records in I3 make me have faith in him.
He told readers here to buy Hengyuan at 5.95, he told all readers the first target price is 15.00. The second target price is 17.50.
All target prices were achieved in very short time.
I believe the target price of Masteel will be achieved in very short time too.
Mr OTB I believe you.
2018-01-19 15:00 | Report Abuse
Posted by Datokim > Jan 19, 2018 01:40 PM | Report Abuse
I am willing to start accumulate once below 11.4 if afternoon sell down again, I dare collect 10% of kyy dumping if he still selling kikiki ..I got no worry of IB selling or short selling...my source informed no crazy fool will short sell bcos paid up too small, unless owner selling.. but also no reflecting as the volume is so little, if you study carefully ,everday actual sellers is not more than 3 million, my hk friend help me to analyse that kyy the most can sell out 10 to 12 m, if my friend is correct, kyy will dare not sell again for time being ....but I still hope couple with force sell n he sell down again so I bolih dapat 11.4 downward !! Kikikiki
Datokim,
Uncle Koon will not sell so cheap to you at 11.40. Uncle Koon is a super investor.
If you can buy up to 10 million shares, please buy now to help to push up the share price.
Buy at ridiculous price at 11.40 is to talk and shior sendiri only.
2018-01-19 13:31 | Report Abuse
My TP for this Heng Yuan remains RM30 by June 2018.
A good report.
Hope your wish comes true. Market rewards you for your good work done.
2018-01-18 19:01 | Report Abuse
Posted by kimhaolian > Dec 26, 2017 03:49 PM | Report Abuse
wow...when OTB called to buy at 5.++ so many people attacked him...
now before 31 Dec already break 15....
so many people are bangging head to wall now....
Posted by longkanginvestor > Dec 26, 2017 12:22 PM | Report Abuse
Mr otb tp of rm15 really achieved before year end..salute
All attackers should put aside different opinion and buy Hengyuan to make money.
Due to personal pride, all attackers missed out this money making opportunity. A very sad case.
It is not true that Mr OTB's target price at 15.00 is dreamland high.
Posted by oldeagle > Jan 6, 2018 11:05 PM | Report Abuse
OTB is really a short sighted guy and will bang his BALLS real hard this time !
And he dares not comment anything this round after selling too early as KYY said HY is still the best stock of Bursa history.
Most of his followers also will curse him.
Posted by pjseow > Jan 6, 2018 11:29 PM | Report Abuse
There is nothing wrong if OTB sold his HY shares above his target price of RM 15 which he had consistently said in the forum . Since his target was met much earlier and even higher ,there is nothing wrong if he sells above RM 18 during the last day of Dec 17 or earlier. He may have re collected the same amount of shares at below 17 in the last few days . He may have made a few hundred thousands from the difference in prices and yet maintain the same number of shares now .
Posted by pjseow > Jan 6, 2018 11:35 PM | Report Abuse
OTB is good at both FA and TA . These two knowledge combined are very powerful tools . He may have seen the shooting star reversal and took the fast action . The small hammer yesterday could also be another reversal of the down trend .
I quote OTB's famous statement
Buying share is not a skill, selling share is a skill.
pjseow, you are very good.
I believe your statement.
I also believe OTB is very good in both TA and FA.
OTB is smart and brilliant to make very good decision.
There is no right or wrong in stock market, it is important to make money overall.
May be OTB had bought back all his shares below 17.00 in the last few days, no one can confirm it.
Posted by Operator > Jan 18, 2018 05:51 PM | Report Abuse
Need some real clarifications here :Someone very active in stock market told me that whenever KYY and OTB team up to promote heavily on a stock, after awhile, OTB will use the excuse of being attacked by i3 members and will NOT contribute and appear anymore. He will disappear. Then the stock price started to collapse. Then OTB will appear again after a while claiming he would like to help others. OTB has been appearing and disappearing for a number of times in i3. As much as i would like to give them the benefits of doubt, too many incidents happened already. Those long enough in i3, feel free to give your opinion.
Posted by mrtai021 > Jan 18, 2018 05:55 PM | Report Abuse
Please don't blame anyone here. KYY OTB promote this stock RM 5. So latecomers u should know your risk
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We, his followers feel that there are a few persons who are very unfair to OTB.
OTB recommended Hengyuan at 5.95, sold some at 14.68 and the balance at 17.48.
We do not see anything wrong with him. He did not promote Hengyuan anymore and retire from I3 because he promised his wife that he will not recommend Hengyuan anymore in I3.
Please be fair and get information correct. All his followers advised him not to post his write up in I3.
We knew that he had stopped posting in I3.
Blaming him will not make you a better person, invest at your own risk.
Stock: [HENGYUAN]: HENGYUAN REFINING COMPANY BERHAD
2018-02-07 10:06 | Report Abuse
11.32 is the worst price.
Did not break new low even in this big correction.
Believe the worst is over.
Need to breakout at 13.82 to start explosive uptrend.