42 sen EPS is over estimate It'll be good enough if it can touch 30 sen ,

Moreover,London property sector is blooming, Amprop should do well there.

I'll hold for years until I'm satisfied with the gain.

I'm sure the sale will contribute well in its 2013 earning.

With or without the MOU Fitter is still a growing profitable company and with its earning it shouldn't be placed in the region of PE around 5, sooner or later the price will be adjusted .

Mikekong55, what I meant is based on fundamental ( depending on the chocolate business ) it'll take a long time to reach 1.50, but with the present sentiment ( may be with other reason )it can be pushed up to any price any time even higher than 1.50. I'm not saying it can't be reached as I'm not selling any until the sentiment changes. I'll ride on the uptrend to make as much as possible and hope everyone here can make the as well.

Yes capital reduction can put the price up but the number of shares we own is reduced .

I hate to write this as I also want the price to move up so that we can make more. But for Pmcorp to move up to 1.50 in short term on its fundamental is hard to imagine. From my estimate, granting its profitability increases 20 fold ,the revenue doubles every year, it still has to take more than 7 years to attain the net profit in the region of 130M to give the fair price of 1.50. I definitely won't wait for that as the assumption is too liberal . Having said that I still hope that price can move up further so that all of us can enjoy the rise.

Yes,this one should be avoided , do you all know that selling put or call option can make a good fortune because 80% of the option will always be out of money. The fund managers use it as an insurance and they don't mind paying the premium. We have no option market here so many banks try to sell the call or put warrant to make some money. Don't let them suck .

Good one !

Lim, please don't be taken too much by the bullish trend of PMcorp, the bullish sentiment may be strong for some short term gain. To reach the TP of say 1.50 depending on fundamental , would require the net profit in the region of 120M , just estimate the revenue then you will know how long it'll take to reach the TP.

"Even the comp. closed down we still can get some clothes back" with that I would prefer Poh Kong.

Along the way there will be some stale bull liquidation but overall it should move up.

Good show YOCB !

Looks like it absorbs the profit taking well and today gap up nicely.

Should be a good day today

Watch the other side also if crash does surface it can be deeper and last longer than we expect .

Treasury shares 16M+ about 5.47%

Sorry Dan, missed your question, div.will be 2 sen to be announced after AGM. As I intend to keep it for long term I'm not particular of its FV,however if you estimate the forward EPS as 13 sen ( actually should be higher )and take the PE as 7 then then FV can be 91 sen which shouldn't be over estimate.

Fitter's earning has improved steadily from 9m+ in 2009 to 26m+ in year 2012 , and 2Q of 2013 is already 20M+ . The EPS does not increase much is due to share dilution from warrant conversion , anyway 2013 EPS should be in the region of 12-14 sen , dividend can be 2.5 sen so just estimate what should be its FV.

I agree with him on the assets value but skeptical on the chocolate business to bring up the price to Rm 10+.

1 sen to me is 500 but to Calvin is at least 5000, so he has no choice but to pump hard.

No wonder you sing so high for pmcorp but let's be realistic if we assume 20% growth for pmcorp food business and after 10 years what would be the earning ? We should then roughly know or estimate its share price, mind you that for the last 10 years its food business was not impressive. However it does not mean that pmcorp has no value , at this price it can easily improve and I'm banging on that to make some money.

Fund managers collecting high management fee have the duty to perform, they cannot just collect the fee and not taking any action just because market is weak.

dan hope you have bought some, it may drop back a little, anyway it's my long term investment I'll hold it as long as those holding NTPM

Weird ! to increase debt shows that the economy is not so good and yet market cheers for it, seem like market does not follow fundamental anymore.

Hua Yang has made a big jump recently I think it'll stay at this level for some time before moving up further.

It may not go north but definitely not to holland, at the moment it's not going anywhere.

With the same reason for putting high value for NTPM why not take a look of YOCB.

The problem is the staff consider it as the ATM machine and this naturally caps the upper limit of its share price .

What is good for PM Corp is the asset purchased after selling off PMCW , the food business is not going anywhere for more than 15 years and I doubt it can be another Nestle even after another 15 years. I'll be happy to clear my position if it can be my 2bagger.

Well said alpha1, price of PMC may move further but to be at par with the giant ( if possible ) may take longer than we can survive .

DOW margin debt is at all time high if the rate goes up what would you think of the market ?
BTW if we have found a good stock to invest for long term ,should we buy now or wait for the correction ?

EPS about 4.4 sen with 15% growth rate, after 5 years it's still less than 10 sen what can you expect the share price to be ?

Certainly not Rm 2.50 in 3 days , however it is quite possible in year 2015 when JV from India starts to contribute

Gold price will go higher in near future, what will be the impact on Poh Kong ?

You can always improve your earning by proper timing in this stock, 1,4 sen on price 46 sen is 3% dividend yield and the normal ex-date is Feb. Time yourself to buy it at this price and hold it for about 3 months to ex-date and I believe the ex-price should be more or less the same, which means you get 3% in three months i.e. 12% per annum . right ?

fitters wont fly until the stale bull liquidation is over, just be patient .

Multico may give good dividend at the end of this month.

HC lee , no, there is no secret it's just that the price was not ideal to go in after the wright up about the green energy section as I noticed that there would be severe shares dilution from the impending conversion of 90M+ warrant and the profit would be diluted. I should have entered just before GE but I didn't so now after this correction and also with better earning, I wouldn't want to miss it.Imagine forward EPS of about 14 sen is selling below 70 sen, and when the green energy section catches on the earning will be improved.

I finally bought into Fitters after tracking it for more than a year and prepare to do the dollar cost averaging down as it drops further.

There are counters capable of having almost the same forward EPS with LBS are selling below 70 sen.

if want to accumulate pick the stocks you have the confident to do the dollars cost ave. down as they drop further and further as you can make about 25% gain when they return to the same level even after dropping a painful 30% down.

this one I'm not sure, but definitely not KC.

He is definitely not like this , but if you think so then do the opposite of what he said to make some money.

Note that 1.64 is ex-dividend, the forward EPS is around 24 sen ( flat compared with 2012 ) and the PE should be about 6.8 ,it's a slow moving stock but stable.

If Kfima turns to PN17 , half of the bursa stocks will be delisted . LOL !

I'm quite positive that YOCB can reward us handsomely, did you all notice that YOCB just wake up from its long sleeping mode ? It has been without volume and price movement for the last few years . Why suddenly wakes up ?

Put in this way if we have the money and don't know where to park the money as the financial storm is threatening, most paper assets are not stable, buying property can be used as asset protection. To speculate by using bank loan is looking for trouble.

ipomember, YOCB is the manufacturer of home linen and curtain,go to yoongoon.com you can get the details . There is nothing spectacular about the company but it is consistent with it earning ,for the last 3 years the quarterly net income is about 4 to 5M which gives the EPS more than 3 sen per quarter. 3Q for FY2013 is more than 10 sen and we can expect the earning for FY 2013 to be 13 sen. Since we are talking about hidden gems that can give us more than 50% profit and we know that on the average these gems cannot command a PE more than 10 so we have to look for stocks with PE less than 6.6 and YOCB fits this bill. The chance for me to get good profit may be higher as I bought it at 53 sen and collected 2 sen div. If you were to buy it at 66 sen and it lingers at this level your time money may be wasted .