Up or down ? It makes no difference to me , what I'm interested is the news and its Q4 earning.

Very strong closing, ought to have some good news to come!

it's beautiful ! just as beautiful as Huayang.

Good show Huayang !

1.94 is already the all time high but I still hope that it moves up further as the on coming Q4 will be good.

To avoid the pitfall look at the interest coverage as well, no company can progress well if it spends large portion of its earning to service its deft.

Or may be three, including Teng as well.

Pradeep I've been keeping tguan for more than two years, no regret for keeping it, I'm sure you have some. I think they are going to announce 7 cents div. soon that's why the price is being adjusted for the dividend . Cheer to us , looks like only two of us are interested in tguan.

BTW, this is the concept of ROIC-WACC must be positive in order to be profitable in any deal.

to buy or not to buy ? it is easy. if after giving 30% or more discount for the company performance and the return is still more than the cost of finance, the purchase is profitable, and if using our own cash the return must be more than 3.5% that is the safe return we can get from FD.

Is the earning that is fantastic ,2013 EPS can be around 36 cents and that is an exponential growth ,from about 7 to 36 in three years even after 1:1 share dilution. Good show HUA YANG ,keep it up for another 2 years, your share price will be fairly awarded above 3.00.

Expecting good profit and 1st interim dividend.

With the market sentiment like this it won't go far however with its fundamental quality it won't drop much, it'll just drifting sideway for a long time until the GE dust is over, as for now nothing to sing out loud.

I'm still waiting @ 1.70 for a certain group to cut loss @ 1.73.

1.20 may be, but this will come only when US prints money until it has no ink to print, this is possible since US is kicking the tin down the road from its 2008 problem, but then can you imagine what will be our KLCI. I'm sure others will be worse hit, but then again after the storm when the sun comes out what will be the price ? After all investment is talking of long term not just after GE13.

I have yua yang and tambun but not ivory, reason : they show proven good record but ivory depands on its beautiful future picture.

Put the race aside but the country should not allow someone to monopolize the essential items, the consumers will suffer later.

NZ just keeps quiet only but he reads the thread if not he would not answer promptly when Gark hit the right info. Anyway most of us here have faith in this stock, I'm sure it won't disappoint us, cheer !

May be the price but not its value.

Tony ,thanks for your advice. anyway Max. level will be @ 25% .

Fat cat, this is the reason that Kfima is stuck in this way , it will be a long way to clear all the ESOS ( another 18M share more ) that is why I change my trading way with Kfima ,clear some when it is around 2.00 , buy some when the price is a good buy . I didn't sell when it peaked at 2.50 regret for not doing so.

Kfima has not reported any quarterly loss since year 2002, I don't believe it should be below 1.73, I'll try to collect as much as I can, btw collecting at this price to me is averaging UP.

Yes I agree to disagree.

What I disagree with Mr.Ooi is he advocate cut loss @ 1.73 , doing it is like a robot triggered at a specific point, but a good player should use his head as well as the chart.

TA may call us to cut loss @ 1,73 but using business sense we should know that the value of business remains intact ( in fact is improving ) then why cut loss ? Cut loss should not be applied in Kfima ,and for it to drop to 1,50 which means 17% drop can you guess what will be for KLCI ,most likely below 1400. No, KLCI will not drop to this level unless something bad happen to our country.

Mr. Ooi I believe in any trading system there is a cut loss point , but in the case of Kfima of which you also agree as an undervalued stock, wouldn't it be better to buy more when the price drops further ? Just like to hear your view.

With the present sentiment there is no urgency to buy but it does not mean we MUST sell Kfima at this level, it won't drop much even KLCI drops further.

Your sell call is a bit late for I've cleared some @ 1.96 to 2.02,now I'm looking for a good price to buy back.

Don't tell me you are not buying when it drops to this price ?

Come any style, I'll buy !

May the year of snake be more prosperous to all of us here ! kong si kong si to everyone !

Only those with the cost of 1.48 are willing to sell so take it as the chance of buying at a lower cost.

This is a cascading effect started by fear and it has become so bad that it needs some good news to trigger it back to the uptrend mode which definitely won't happen at this moment.

That is the beauty of engineer with MBA.

That's more like it ....1.16.and not 4.85.

Better double check on its NTA and share outstanding, as far as I know it's RM1.17 and 538M shares.

@ necro, I'm no pro, sorry I don't have the website you are looking for, may be tonylim can help.

Tony ,this might be the interim dividend and may follow by a final div. later after its Q4. As for the price movement at the moment I just ignore it for I know after Q4, with its good result and final dividend the share price shouldn't be at this level.

Which means the estimated 2013FY EPS of 33cents can be exceeded. What is crazy is when klci dropped 2.6% in two days it dropped 7.5% and today the price has not really rebounded so what are you waiting for ?

@skyland,I would say both of them are more or less are the same Amprop has moved up more than 30% it will have to take a breather before it can continue its up trend, Fitter just started its move but slowly,it will be good in long term when the green energy project makes good contribution, since you have made the swap enjoy it, good luck !

What is good is today's volume.

It's the way Kimlun moves ; slow and steady , finally it'll reach its FV.

Is a good counter , it just waked up.

Ahaah ! my salted fish is coming alive .

What bbull said is true, perhaps the more suitable word would be malaysian instead of bumis then won't be accused as such. But then whatever effect it may be it will be minimized in the minority and imagine when the minority drops to below 20% (very soon) who will be affected most. I always wish the politicians can see this, alas! I doubt they can.

You mean he can't make good gain during these few years up trend market ? then imagine what will happen when the market is down trend for two years

Will monitor it, thanks.

Is it not more exciting in this way Tony ?

Well cannot have high multiplying factor in heavy weight so the only way is to focus in 2nd or 3rd liners, you see 1 sen up can be a few hundred to me if not 1K.

Don't need superbull, bulll in 3rd liners is good enough , many double baggers can be created as it wont be easy to have double bagger in the heavy weight.

Yes Pradeep, Tguan will come, a stock which can maintain the EPS around 25 sen for a few years shouldn't be in this price the revaluation will come.