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2019-02-06 22:47 | Report Abuse

people worship the rich and look down on the poor. Surprisingly they do the same for stocks. The biggest sin of Jaks is its share price dropped from 1.80 to 50 Sen. That is when people all abandoned it in droves, and pay no heed to its fundamentals

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2019-02-06 22:37 | Report Abuse

Gongxifacai sifu qqq3

We wait for Jaks to Huat

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2019-02-06 22:13 | Report Abuse

this stock very interesting. The few of us vs. the herd.

By end of this year we would know who is right who is wrong

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2019-02-04 16:01 | Report Abuse

First time Calvin makes call based on earning

What a refreshing change

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2019-02-04 15:48 | Report Abuse

Today I increased exposure

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2019-02-04 11:25 | Report Abuse

I am extremely grateful of 3iii's comment below. Finally somebody gives me due recognition instead of baseless accusation of pump and dump

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3iii So far, I have come across 3 people in this forum who have been honest with their postings with good intention for the good of all:

1. Mr 1015
2. Icon
3. KC

Another remains unnamed but not difficult to guess on.
03/02/2019 20:01

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2019-02-04 08:25 | Report Abuse

happy CNY Calvin

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2019-02-04 08:23 | Report Abuse

i3lurker has a habit of coming out to talk bad about Jaks when he is interested to collect, and appears more rational after he has gone in

come to think about it, that is possibly the source of animosity between him and I.

I just don't like it.

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2019-02-04 08:19 | Report Abuse

Unlike everybody else who purely judges a person's success or failure through his end result, I choose to take into consideration the process and the thoughts behind it.

As far as I am concerned, Uncle Koon has not been reckless by investing in Jaks. He has done almost every thing that Buffett has preached.

It is a company that has a clear path of growth, within his circle of competence and he understands well (due in no small part to his privileged access to management, which in turn is due to his substantial shareholding). He bets big on it just like Buffett bets big on his favourite stocks.

The only thing that I don't like is his heavy reliance on gearing, which is totally unnecessary, as a relatively modest stake would have done well and creates tremendous wealth for him.

Another possible mistake, if the conspiracy theory about ALP playing him is to be believed, is that he forgot to strike a deal to incentivise ALP. If he has done so to align ALP's interest with his (through profit sharing, lets say), the whole fiasco might not have happened.



3iii 2018 was a disastrous year for KYY in his investing. Many were surprised by the quantum of his loss.

A great investor should not find himself in this situation of huge losses.

Jaks is not his only loss. There are other stocks too. His need to sell his prized lands surprised me and pointed to his huge losses too.
Given his resources, he will still be financially sound.

A good or great investor should never find himself in this predicament.
Recall Neil Leeson who collapsed the Baring Bank few years ago. Taking too much risk on board through leveraging unneccesarily. Rule no 1 of Buffett: Don't lose your capital.

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2019-02-04 06:29 | Report Abuse

Hmmm yes margin financing is the main reason for his downfall , at least according to him

But among so many stocks he had picked, Jaks is actually one of the Best researched (especially if compared to Carimin !!!). He has unlimited access to TOP management, and the investee company's business is well defined and relatively easy to understand. Like I said, it is a waste that it ended in such a tragic way. Until now, I still don't know what to believe

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2019-02-04 06:12 | Report Abuse

All this while, I thought I understand Uncle Koon well

But whatever happened so far between Uncle Koon and Jaks caught me by surprise. For a person with such intellect, wisdom and experience, and an investment theme that makes so much sense, how could this whole thing end in such a tragic way ?

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2019-02-03 11:51 | Report Abuse

Fair enough. That is all we want to see

I have no more comments

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2019-02-03 11:38 | Report Abuse

Let's just wait for Philips proof

If I have 2 mil QL I will proudly display it here. No need twist and turn

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2019-02-03 11:23 | Report Abuse

Please read the following again

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Posted by Icon8888 > Feb 3, 2019 08:18 AM | Report Abuse X

I think you are confused

I challenge you to disclose amount invested in QL because you claimed you own 2 mil shares

I never made such a claim for my success transformer

As far as success is concerned, I disclosed my entry price (indirectly through date of my article), which I am happy to prove in a blog article by snapshot of my portfolio

You claim number of shares invested , you prove it

I claim my average cost , I prove it

That is the rule of the game here

It is fair

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2019-02-03 11:21 | Report Abuse

So , how ? You can't deliver ?

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2019-02-03 09:25 | Report Abuse

Don't ever challenge icon8888

He never lies

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2019-02-03 09:17 | Report Abuse

Yes I can provide proof of my purchase

I do that and you show me your 2 mil QL

Deal ?


Posted by (S = Qr) Philip > Feb 3, 2019 08:48 AM | Report Abuse

No need to follow me invest in QL. Just be honest enough to your readers and new i3ivestor's on your next blog full discloser as well is ok already.

If I do it, can you post the stock purchase invoice for your pump stock into your upcoming blogs? If you do that I will definitely do it for you.

Show me your stock purchase invoice for your purchase into hengyuan,LCTITAN, petronm, and success transformer.

Fair is fair?

Or are you more fake than me?

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2019-02-03 08:36 | Report Abuse

Don’t talk so much Philips

Show us the proof

We need it. We are extremely interested in QL

Once you prove to us it really work that way, we will jump in and invest big time with you

Forget about success transformer, dksh, MBM resources

Only QL we will hold

Show us your 2 mil shares

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2019-02-03 08:18 | Report Abuse

I think you are confused

I challenge you to disclose amount invested in QL because you claimed you own 2 mil shares

I never made such a claim for my success transformer

As far as success is concerned, I disclosed my entry price (indirectly through date of my article), which I am happy to prove in a blog article by snapshot of my portfolio

You claim number of shares invested , you prove it

I claim my average cost , I prove it

That is the rule of the game here

It is fair

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2019-02-03 08:14 | Report Abuse

Meaning everything told about QL has now become irrelevant

Because none of those things had ever happened

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2019-02-03 08:13 | Report Abuse

Whether Philips is a faked is not really important

What is important is that the QL investing theory is therefore a faked

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2019-02-03 08:12 | Report Abuse

So to cut a long story short, you are a faked

That is all we need to know

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2019-02-03 07:37 | Report Abuse

CharlesT

Philips is going to do it soon. Just a few click of the mouse can clear the air

Why not ?

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2019-02-03 07:07 | Report Abuse

Philips , I am not asking you to show so much details. Just show us 2 mil QL shares in your portfolio as at today

You are still keeping them mah, right ?

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2019-02-02 20:42 | Report Abuse

3iii is stubborn about his theory, and he posted his portfolio online since 2014. So nobody doubts his claim

Philips will do the same .

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2019-02-02 20:34 | Report Abuse

You talk nonsense again

No jaks no jaks

Must be good quality company QL

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2019-02-02 20:32 | Report Abuse

No lah, Philips not like that

He is going to prove to you that east Malaysians are not liars like those from Sillypore

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2019-02-02 20:30 | Report Abuse

Biadap CharlesT

Philips will teach you a lesson soon

He is going to post a snapshot of his portfolio in a blog article

2 mil shares of QL to shut you up once and for all

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2019-02-02 20:27 | Report Abuse

Philips will do it soon

We all need it

This will be the most earth shaking development in i3 history - Somebody from Malaysia proves that buffetology works in Malaysia

This will play a decisive role in shaping the debate in relation to what is the best way to go about investing in Malaysia

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2019-02-02 20:24 | Report Abuse

And 3iii will be vindicated , "Told you guys already, betting big on quality company and hold Long Long term is the way to do it"

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2019-02-02 20:20 | Report Abuse

Philips will write a blog article and post his portfolio online to shut up CharlesT

That will settle the issue once and for all

Then everybody will be convinced about the QL story

Nobody will dare to call him bullshiter anymore

All it takes is a snapshot of his portfolio screen, why not ?

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2019-02-02 17:18 | Report Abuse

Don’t be cynical, Philips will show you his portfolio. He can blog, can’t he ?

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2019-02-02 15:13 | Report Abuse

Dear ClarlesT,

when I said you are a 67 person, I am actually complimenting you for your unique ability to smell out danger based on your legendary 6 sense (6 understates your capability, so I add 7 to it)

Dont mean to offend

Yours sincerely,

Icon


Posted by CharlesT > Feb 2, 2019 03:06 PM | Report Abuse

Some said my method is 67 some said i m.low class investor..

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2019-02-02 15:08 | Report Abuse

if you measure your portfolio performance by realised gain / loss, then diversification suddenly makes a lot of sense

no more problem of paper gain in one stock offset by paper loss of another stock

at the end, it is cold hard cash and profit in your pocket that counts (aka. realised gain)

(am I confusing you ?)


Posted by probability > Feb 2, 2019 03:03 PM | Report Abuse

Icon..is preaching such a diversified portfolio...iam not buying any till he comes with his sailang stock....kiki

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2019-02-02 15:01 | Report Abuse

stop arguing guys

buy jaks

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2019-02-02 14:24 | Report Abuse

CharlesT you should finish your curry mee before results date

Otherwise might diarrhoea

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2019-02-02 14:19 | Report Abuse

I am a margin fan


Posted by CharlesT > Feb 2, 2019 02:15 PM | Report Abuse

Koon posted 6 to 7 articles here to promote currymee
-he sold lands n used margin to hentam 99 in currymee

Icon8888 posted 7 articles to promote jaks
-he used 2.5% of his total funds to buy jaks..no sell land no margin?

Something is wrong...

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2019-02-02 14:19 | Report Abuse

I seriously worry about his holding in curry mee

It is done totally without a strategy

What happens if this quarter result lousy ?

Sometime these oil and gas companies even though have let's say two years worth of contracts, they are on demand basis. When Petronas needs them, they will call them.

What happens if this quarter Petronas is a bit quiet ? Then the result minght disappoint

As we all know, if earnings disappoint, all hell breaks loose

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2019-02-02 14:15 | Report Abuse

Musangking, 5% of my portfolio , not 5% of Jaks total shares

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2019-02-02 13:54 | Report Abuse

2.5%

Got scolded by CharlesT

Next week must increase to 5%

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2019-02-02 10:49 | Report Abuse

I have always liked jaks story. The only complain is that major shareholder holding too small stake

I don’t like it

Now that ALP is loadng up, the final piece of puzzle is finally falling in place

I am more than happy to let him make some money. As Long as it is not too excessive and he leaves enough meat for all of us to feast on

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2019-02-02 10:47 | Report Abuse

This is the once in a lifetime opportunity for ALP

This is the time for him to break into the big league

If jaks goes to RM2 or 3, ALP will become a somebody in corporate Malaysia

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2019-02-02 10:45 | Report Abuse

It is a very good thing that Andy is loading up. Every entrepreneur day and night think about how to enrich themselves. It is very common. As long as it is not too excessive, don’t overreact

You get rewarded for being squeaky clean if you are a Boy Scout. But in business, close one eye lah

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2019-02-02 10:20 | Report Abuse

It is a storm in the tea cup lah

We are talking about 100 mil profit per annum

Why people get distracted by kacang putih amount (not referring to DK66)

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