Posted by jjoker > Apr 14, 2020 6:19 PM | Report Abuse

After 1 month - 170 cases. After 2 months - 170 cases. After 1 year MCO - 170 cases. After 10 years MCO - 170 cases. Yay, we have succeeded, it's no longer exponential.
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that is likely......Wuhan is more than lock down...........Wuhan got excellent testing, tracing, and community support....

even got robotics, handphone apps, 100 million party members doing community work, education, enforcements that only China can do..............

yes, no longer exponential, flattened the curve..........but at what cost?


can MCO forever?

Posted by jjoker > Apr 14, 2020 6:19 PM | Report Abuse

After 1 month - 170 cases. After 2 months - 170 cases. After 1 year MCO - 170 cases. After 10 years MCO - 170 cases. Yay, we have succeeded, it's no longer exponential.
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that is likely......Wuhan is more than lock down...........Wuhan got excellent testing, tracing, and community support.

not all, never make from Minetec............

y CharlesT > Apr 14, 2020 6:10 PM | Report Abuse

Aiyo otb made very good money for years...this year still make profit..
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u too optimistic or naive is the word.............

its losing 90% of wealth at $ 3..........on margin accounts, it can happen very fast........

if wealth at $ 3 is $ 100 million...........still got $ 10 million which is enough for many years to come.


$ 100 million to $ 10 million nothing has changed...except bruised ego.

$ 1 million to $ 100,000............got to change life style.

latuk...........this OTB needs his i3 ratings or he dies..........

unlike China............Malaysia do not have the capability to push new cases to zero because to bring it to zero needs much much more than just MCO.............

4 weeks into MCO....simmerings cases of 100- 200 everyday still around.............simmering cases will be around so need to re open for business?

the government announced ban on forced selling starting mid March..............

anyone think that OTB cult can survive meh without VIP money to help him push up shares?

anyone think that OTB cult can survive meh without VIP money to help him push up shares?

ss

KYY as a force in i3 and bursa is spend, no more.....

now, I just have to take down OTB..........and the OTB cult.

OTB > Apr 14, 2020 4:41 PM | Report Abuse

I would have saved him a few hundred million in losses if he had listened to my advice on Jaks, Sendai and Dayang.
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never miss an opportunity to sell yourself?

u any better meh buying Jaks $ 1.50 at same time?


whether loss at A, B or C............a loss is still a loss, makes no difference one in the final analysis...........

ed by Sslee > Apr 14, 2020 4:26 PM | Report Abuse

Dear Philip,
Do not understand how KYY loss lost about 90% of his wealth when his 35.87 million Dayang holding cost is RM 30.25 million?
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u don't understand?

if u consider wealth ( equity value) at $3 and vs equity value at realised prices....not that difficult to understand .....since it is margin account with financing.

.and for one reason or another, this OTB strongly believes a good image in i3 is fundamental to his success..........

so fragile.............sure die.......... sooner rather than later.

OTB...............talk big so much for what?

stock market open everyday..........any time also u got a chance to die....I got enough patience to see it coming true............

this kc...he cover stocks covered by OTB/KYY..........so same result lah.....what so surprising?

these are stocks meant for retail.........play play lah.....go justify any way u know how....does it make any difference if u justify it with PE or NTA or EV or ROCE or any of KYY/OTB/KC magic formulas?

a lot of people pretend here pretend there...that is all lah....this is stock market.


holding period....from a few hours to a few months cover 95% of the transaction volumes.


without referring to holding period/ expiry date........ talk any thing also can.............and equally bad........when things go south just say investment with expiry date one life time away.....................

aiyah Philips....here in i3 , people hold some thing more than 6 months considered very good already.............

nothing written is ever meant to be relevant soon after it is written.............hahahahahah

Posted by Philip (Honesty is expensive. Dont expect frm cheap ppl ) > Apr 14, 2020 4:13 PM | Report Abuse

In a way, facility's article rings
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aiyah.........KYY has a super sized ego, and rather simplistic view of the world............and for one reason or another, both OTB and KYY strongly believes a good image in i3 is fundamental to their success.

His success and his failure....

me? I cannot be a long term investor.........that is just not me......

I will continue to do what I do

sslee.........

The BOD will tell you to go fly kites........post corona world will be very different from pre corona world.

The BOD will want to conserve as much cash as they can.............surely no increased dividends and no share back............the BOD will tell u....cash is king..............

Philips has a proven success formula for last 10 years.......buy and hold good companies that people can trust, easy to understand, simple organisation structure, and big enough to be stable together with corporate governance.........and not the KYY/OTB/kc types of companies.

and then...........there are the Insas, Icap, Berjaya, TA types where people buy on balance sheets. .......and failed the last 10 years.......


will things change for the next 10 years? Hoping for fundamental changes to make money is not smart. I think it is losers game. Doing the same things over again and again and losing money and hoping for changes is really not smart.

sslee.........

The BOD will tell you to go fly kites........post corona world will be very different from pre corona world.

The BOD will want to conserve as much cash as they can.............surely no increased dividends and no share back............the BOD will tell u....cash is king..............

Philips has a proven success formula for last 10 years.......buy and hold good companies that people can trust, easy to understand, simple organisation structure, and big enough to be stable together with corporate governance.........and not the KYY/OTB types of companies.

and then...........there are the Insas, Icap, Berjaya, TA types where people buy on balance sheets. .......and failed the last 10 years.......


will things change for the next 10 years? Hoping for fundamental changes to make money is not smart. I think it is losers game. Doing the same things over again and again and losing money and hoping for changes is really not smart.

America got Netflix, Amazon, Google and the likes which will insulate their Index...........

Malaysia got what?


going forward, u may find wall street green and we in malaysia keep seeing red............very very tough environment.

America got Netflix, Amazon, Google and the likes which will insulate their Index...........

Malaysia got what?


going forward, u may find wall street green and we in malaysia keep seeing red............very very tough environment.

I did not study Insas in detail as no interest to buy..........But my instinct tells me Philips is right......

surely, keep selling Inari means it will lose its associate company status and cannot equity account like before...and PL of Insas will drop..........

with so much assets in listed shares, surely fair value accounting to give shareholders a huge ( negative) shock soon...............

sslee.........

The BOD will tell you to go fly kites........post corona world will be very different from pre corona world.

The BOD will want to conserve as much cash as they can.............surely no increased dividends and no share back............the BOD will tell u....cash is king..............

cashflow problems.............eventually big eat small...........that is the law of the jungle and law of businesses.............

by DK66 > Apr 14, 2020 11:32 AM | Report Abuse

Instead, the costs is recorded as "loan receivables" and gradually reduced (by capacity payment) over the concession period.
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that is bad news for u.........now capacity payment cannot take to PL account..........

cash flow problems..............Jaks got huge cash flow problems for 2020............now, whole world also cash flow problems...makes it even more difficult to solve its cash flow problems which is normally solved by private placement..........................

otb............more advertisements for business?

why? no business? not enough business?

1 billion barrels.............that is the lost consumption in 1 month due to the virus........................

1 billion barrels.............that is the lost consumption in 1 month due to the virus........................

otb...........carry on lying through your teeth........


me? I have a stress free life for many years already..........and u are still struggling with stress everyday and lying all the time...........good meh?

too bullish, I dare not buy shares in large numbers
too bearish, I can get scared easily.........

best for me is a more stable/ predictable environment...........then I use my stock picking to make money............

anyway, I don't do well in this kind of economic / stock market environment............I do better in a more stable environment.......no need bull market environment , just more stable and boring environment I also can do well.,

y Sslee > Apr 14, 2020 10:21 AM | Report Abuse

Haha,
Instead of now everyone can fly it become now everyone are so smart.
qqq3 buy any shares lately?
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me?

I also like KYY use the dead cat bounce to sell shares...........

Kctai3007 > Apr 14, 2020 10:08 AM | Report Abuse

How can they say that they will not do buyback if it will trigger an mgo obligation, which they do in the share buyback statement
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excuses...........so many excuses.......there are solutions, if they really want solutions ( Philip already giving u the solution) .....if not just give dividends lah........


if there is excess cash, people normally just do dividends or share buy back.....if cannot do share buy back for what ever reason, just give higher dividends, same effect.................

end of the day, its just excuses and what BOD really wants to do..........

nothing wrong with giving/ receiving stocks tips, unless they break the insider trading laws.

in the giving / receiving of tips, they always come with the reasons.

but there is a problem with stock market which is very difficult to over come..........it is.........


win more lose more, win less lose less.


whichever method is used, whether trading or investing, whether tips or no tips, the relationship between giver and receiver, people usually starts small, win more buy more, and when the market is over........win more lose more, win less lose less.
All very normal.

don't listen to stock tips don't have to die meh?

time to die, everyone also die.


better then don't listen to stock tips is don't be the piper leading rats to the river.


not ready means not ready lah.


I also don't know which is worse.........the one giving / receiving stock tips or

the one promising compounding returns when none exists..............

Dayang supplies the engineers that oil companies needed when called upon................

what is dayang? dayang is a glorified employment agency.................

in the creative destruction age, every thing also can be destroyed including those born to deliver stuffs...........

anyway, lurk...........


what can stop the grab and panda armies from delivering parcels as well as food?

1 billion barrels of oil..........that is consumption destroyed in 1 month due to the virus.............

all things considered.............bursa doing very well already this morning.........Dow down 200,,,,,,,,,,,,oil agreement normally means profit taking because it is an anticipated event and any way , makes little difference compared to normal daily consumption of 100 million barrels / day., and the devastating effect of lock down.

so.............what do u do?

I tell you what u should do............u should be proactive, don't be reactive to daily happenings...............

there are a lot of retailers reacting to the oil agreement...........

lock down, everybody want to buy delivery companies..............but there are at least 50 delivery companies and Malaysia very small place............every year for past 3 years, all delivery companies margin is smaller and smaller due to competition................

want to buy delivery companies, go buy Pos lah................they got delivery points every where in malaysia............but I also not interested............

Lazada doing their own deliveries also..........

Star not bad..........

but Gdex is all hype ..........u know how many shares they have issued or not?

y gsi723 > Apr 13, 2020 8:44 AM | Report Abuse

it's not trader stupid or not.... losing/ gaining is their own responsibility.
what's is the integrity of the man that just days ago write convincing articles, pleading people especially ikan bilis not to sell and got cheated... then he himself actually desperately selling all out "even at a loss"...!!
what is this if not con man?
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maybe his guardian angel tell him to sell....................u know or not?