trying to break China 's legs in order to stay ahead is first of all, immoral .

China has seen this script before.

can make kirin 9000 chips cannot make chips good enough for AI meh?

China says bring it on.

the main thing tesla customers very satisfied customers

AnakUlarSawa

Pecah 200 can go lower leh. Haiyoh. Correct?

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that is not how it works for a company with a great future.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0Xhk-2hJtA&t=10s
The REAL reason GM delayed electric Silverado production until 2026

lies and telling lies is very wide spread with GM and Toyota.........but the media has given them a pass.

for Tesla, model X and model S sales is irrelevant compared to model y and model 3.

in future tesla, has model 2, cyber truck and tesla semi.

AnakUlarSawa

Tesla down further 215 liao leh. If pecah 200 then habis liao. Haiyoh. Correct?
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why habis?. 2023 low is 130...............200 still 70 more than 130.

there are 2 things to do consider here.

there is share price and there is reality.

in reality, Tesla and BYD will continue to do well.

in share market, well, share market has many problems . and these problems are outside the control of tesla.

trying to break China 's legs in order to stay ahead is first of all, immoral .

No one expected Huawei mate 60 to be so advanced. It's game over for America

America will continue to sanction China and China will continue to solve problems....it's actually very good for China.

The European companies still losing money on EV and cannot cut prices without committing suicide

And Tesla will retain its lead in Europe , , with prices cuts and improved model 3 and model y

In technology and in cost, the legacy companies are no longer competitive.

In car design, softwares, options, manufacturing prowess, and on what consumers want , the Chinese beats the European companies...die or not?

2022 data is long outdated already. 2023 is a very different year and 2024 even worse for European companies

When new technology comes along u have to understand the new technology. Understand the s curve otherwise u become the new Nokia.

Every year about 10 million cars are sold in EU. EU itself intends to go fully electric by 2030 or 2035. And the data suggest the s curve is on
And VW and legacy car companies EV cannot compete with Tesla . That is what the data shows. Q4 will be a very strong quarter for Tesla in Europe. With new model3 and prices that cleans the floor of what VW BMW and others have on offer.

Europeans are still losing money on every EV they sell. Die or not? Their cost their technology is just uncompetitive to giga press used by Tesla....some more the best the cheapest batteries come from byd and catl and Europeans using Korean batteries..
Eho

VW suggestion is to import VW made in China to be sold in Europe. Die or not? While the idea is good can they overcome the politics ?

When new technology comes along u have to understand the new technology. Understand the s curve otherwise u become the new Nokia.

Every year about 10 million cars are sold in EU. EU itself intends to go fully electric by 2030 or 2035. And the data suggest the s curve is on
And VW and legacy car companies EV cannot compete with Tesla . That is what the data shows. Q4 will be a very strong quarter for Tesla in Europe. With new model3 and prices that cleans the floor of what VW BMW and others have on offer.

Europeans are still losing money on every EV they sell. Die or not? Their cost their technology is just competitive to giga press used by Tesla.

VW suggestion is to import VW made in China to be sold in Europe. Die or not? While the idea is good can they overcome the politics ?

over the next few years, all foreign brands not tesla especially Japanese cars will disappear from China...and the German become niche players with small market share.

this is decoupling, not because of government policy but consumer choice.

over the next few years, all foreign brands especially Japanese cars will disappear from China...and the German become niche players with small market share.

the luckiest people are the Chinese........so many choices and options in China.

BYD is the leader but there is also the Huawei car Aito, Geely Zeekr, Volvo, polestar, SIC MG, GAC AION, Nio, X peng, Li, Neeta, Cherry, Huawei Cherry, wuling, many many more. from USD 10,000 to USD 200,000.

the luckiest people are the Chinese........so many choices and options in China.

BYD is the leader but there is also the Huawei car Aito, Geely Zeekr, Volvo, polestar, SIC MG, GAC AION, Nio, X peng, Li, Neeta, Cherry, Huawei Cherry, wuling, many many more. from USD 10,000 to USD 200,000.

somebody still have to sell cars, and it will be tesla and Chinese EVs.

VW is the most indebted company in the world. Next is Toyota.

at least VWs in panic mode and admits it. Toyota is in denial and lies about every thing.

America legacy companies gone case.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/972845/electric-vehicles-leading-models-europe/

Europe EV of VW Audi Merc and BMW combined a fraction of tesla

https://youtube.com/shorts/qdTyBV-6HpY?si=plCHiJWFLdyfiEVg

instead of 2023 a bad year...............2023 is the year Huawei mate 60 and Chinese EV dominate the world market.

both are hugely significant for the future.

instead of 2023 a bad year...............2023 is the year Huawei mate 60 and Chinese EV dominate the world market.

make money or not depends on the trend. Not all the time make money...........but all the time, real economy in China goes ahead.

tesla is still be hot favorite in EU and USA.........................tesla is like apple. very difficult, almost impossible, for Chinese EV to dominate in EU and USA.

AnakUlarSawa

Catl new SuperCharger can beat Tesla one kah. Tesla still ada hope lagi kah. Haiyoh. Correct?
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tesla not like america politicans la.......Tesla will use whoever is best.

Toyota and Honda are still the most stubborn which is most surprising since Japs are supposed to be most environmentally conscience.

what I think of such articles?

I am with EV God. These are nokias and Motorolas. in denial stage.

companies like VW, Toyota, Honda, they make half their money in China.

if higher interest rates in America affects Tesla, u think it does not affect the legacy cars meh?

in recent years, the car companies keep selling bigger and bigger cars and SUV , the average price of a car is $ US 50,000, this will drop by half. In the mean while, the EV will be better and cheaper. All legacy cars ta pau soon.

there is no country in the world that has the resilience of China.

that is why USA and its allies sanction after sanction cannot sink China.

the main thing to know about China is what Xi says.

China is ocean. Ocean is still ocean after the storm and calm returns.

The sea sometimes got storm sometimes got calm but ocean will still be ocean.

the largest creditor in the world, the highest savings rate, the largest trade surplus in the world, no inflation problem, and all the big banks are state owned, there is so such thing as no money.

but China cannot stop Malaysians like idq foong from being i,diots.

the main thing to know about China is what Xi says.

China is ocean. Ocean is still ocean after the storm and calm returns.

U think it is still Qing dynasty using silver dollars meh?

It's paper money nowadays. The central bank of China can always print if it is priority and needed. And factual.

After all China is the largest creditor country in the world and no inflation problem

In issue after issue China choose the right path for China for humanity for the planet, . It's better to listen to China than playing sour grapes and spread misinformation about China

Just like China and EV. China has the right idea and implementation to address environmental problems.
Companies like Toyota and Honda missed the boat and now playing sour grapes

China's bri help to finance the global south when the rich countries do not want to take the risk, don't have the money and don't have the institution to do it. People should show China more love and appreciation for doing it. Not just call it debt diplomacy

Since there is also no inflation problem China can print money when it is needed

China has 3 advantages others don't have. Every year China has huge trade surpluses, high savings rates and and banks which are state controlled. There w
I'll always have solutions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASoAEZkf4EU

its ok. Its not the end of EV or end of tesla. Its just finding the right time to buy.

I mean what is use hoping China will collapse?

China will not collapse.

China had a huge restructuring of its state banks pumping in hundreds of billions in the 1990s.................nothing bad happened to China. In fact China did very well after the bank restructuring.

China’s banks may be loaded with .............any thing. Maybe is not news. Maybe is somebody imagination.

like I say, top 5 world banks are China state banks. No money print money la.

It's all western media distortions and misinformation

Not just cow sense, idqfoong attitude is cannot compete with China, go break China legs.

Chips is what u need to play the game. Whether donation or what when people become chips, it is not a good outcome