true that! how it go up how it go down... not by the book, but by the human behavior...

start to learn trending investment...

to be honest, the guru i learnt trending investment also take Apple's chart as an example too... how coincidence

in 2017, trending investor will continue to top up on rising stock...<---- this is what i promote

in 2018, trending investor will start to exit as soon as the trend is reversing...<---- this is what i promote

in 2017, value investor will continue buy and hold rising stock...<---- this is what i agree

in 2018, value investor will continue to hold and worst, average down the dropping stock... <---- this is what i NOT agree, not every retail investor has the deep pocket to average down all the way to bottom and stay/trap at bottom for a period of time...

told you i not disagree with value investing, I too continue to use value investing to select my watch list...
it is the BUY LOW, Average down, and LONG TERM investment method which I nnot agree...

to be honest...

I do pity KYY and ICON8888 and others who being attack... if this is the purpose of this forum to attack and laugh at people... it is a shame..

btw.. you dont know me in real life... so you dont know how much I know the market...speak only the thing you know...

gdluck and hope more constructive comment in the future.

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Jon Choivo > Nov 30, 2018 11:35 AM | Report Abuse

You clearly know nothing about foreign markets.

Do you see able flying up and nose diving 20% in 2 months?

Do you see volatility close to zero in 2017, and off the charts in 2018.

As long as it humans there, markets will be emotional. And as long as people will be emotional and illogical.

Value investing will continue to work.

2. 摊平操作 - 若对自己投资的公司有信心，又不知底价会在哪里，则可以考虑逐步买进来摊平成本价来减轻风险。

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我感激作者的文章。不过我不看好摊平的做法。因为散户没有够深的口袋一路往下摊平并在谷底长期持有。
我更趋向于止损以保障资本。以便在趋势转变后能够第一时间再次进场。

新手套高点
老手套反弹
高手套摸底
结果老中青三代全部套在谷底

fingers got burnt? ahahahhhahahaha

i still holding cash on my hand tight tight looking for clear trend...

crazy market these day...

true this... US market is more mature and stable than the Asian...

Not that value investing is not good... but it simply not suitable in Asian market which are more volatile and emotional...

I learnt my lesson...

hope others may soon to realise this too...

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apolloang > Nov 30, 2018 11:14 AM | Report Abuse

super investor make profit for the last few years lost all in less than a few months.where got super investor one in bursa.bursa not dow jones lah.all here manipulation only

i believe at this stage...fundamental and prospect do not matter... it is the human nature/behaviour driving the trade...
regardless FA or TA...i think we all just need to wait for the right time. right price to enter...

However, i must thanks Jaks and Hengyuan... they are really good material for TA

Yeah.. i used to believe Buffet fairy tale, graham fairy tale, FA fairy tale... how naive... and everyday still so many people keep promoting these fairy tale to chase low,chase bottom, average down and trap at bottom

only tell people to buy but not tell people to sell is purely unethical... not just selfish but obviously taking advantage from others... worst still taking advantage from someone who choose to believe you....

Gamuda in box adjustment 2 months now.... still no show...

Gamuda in box adjustment 2 months now... yes it may be out of the box... but when? which way? why buy now and get your capital locked?

your guys are really brave soul...still party here...

may as well build a zoo and crocodile/butterfly farm....

""We upgrade GenM to 'hold' with lower SOP-derived target price of RM3.41 ([from] RM4.01) given the share price plunge.""

so now TP is base on the stock price?

just keep the money on hand and wait for the tide

hahahahahahahaha good joke

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stockholm999 > Nov 27, 2018 12:11 PM | Report Abuse

its remind me of a joke. A fella found something on floor, its look like shit. He get closer. hmmmm, it smell like shit. then it take n taste it, ahhh IT's SHIT!!!

Wow!!!! keep Genm in watch list now...

Why not change to PRamlee theme park?

Do your own homework...nothing in this world is free....

except the life given by your parent...

still no trend of reversal... any increase in a downward trend is a chance to escape the trap. gdluck

Rome was not built in a day, and no real movement of importance ends in one day or in one week. It takes time for it to run its logical course. – Jesse Livermore

Yeah.... ZULKARNIN is determined to stay in power!

wow...every week issue esos?

WoW!!! huge volume with close low... becareful guys... big investor leaving the ship...

take a good care of M40 and T20... so these people can survive/progress and earn more to take care the govt and B40!

why everyday B40! B40! B40!

Isnt this shown in the movie Angel and Demon? and I was kidding my friend back in 2012 that we may die suddenly if these European cant handle this god particle

I really hope China can handle it... I dont want to die not knowing what happen! hahahahahahaha

https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/a25101820/china-lhc-particle-...

I just wondering what the company worth to draw this much of fire... the land???

I think we all should stay out of the ring... sit outside eating popcorn minum teh tarik while enjoy the show how the existing major shareholder/director fighting the new major shareholder...

this remind me Jaks few months ago... when a new major shareholder try to influence the director and mgmt... and the director and mgmt keep issue EOS and PP to dilute the new major shareholder holding...

quite a show

just give layhong a break...

you go too far if you love and hate a company you invested this MUCH...

if a stock make profit, then find a right time to sell and take profit

if a stock make loss, admit the mistake then find a right time to cut loss and sell

gdluck

Why I said qqq3 share a nice article?

Simply put, if you get a chance to go back to 1400++/1500++ Melaka sultanate...

Simply ask any of the sultan, are they prefer to see a China Ship or Portuguese Ship at the doorstep...

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Posted by rajachulan > Nov 14, 2018 02:43 PM | Report Abuse X

Posted by qqq3 > Nov 14, 2018 02:01 PM | Report Abuse

Jon....u want to know how China has been demonised ?

https://journal-neo.org/2018/06/17/west-is-spreading-sick-racist-anti-...

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by the way, nice article you shared qqq3...

really qqq3??? -_-!!! I really dont want to talk about that anymore...

funnyhome will help Tong and Liu and other developer before anyone else...I have little faith that a sdn bhd businessman mission is to save the country rather than their pocket...

in fact... i still puzzle why a PM and a mof will so passionate to promote a sdn bhd scheme? didnt we have a Housing and Local Government minister to do a proper housing palnningjob for the country?

if we so depend on sdh bhd.. then Zuraida can rest...

I dont know qqq3 and i dont know you either...basically i dont know anyone here...

i agree with him when he shares similar mind as me...

and i disagree with him when we see thing differently... just like on Fundmyhome scheme aka funnyhome i call it...

this is an open forum.. just share any view you like... if you dont like, then challenge... but please dont attack... if make no good and certainly make no harm to the person... i assure you qqq3 is still lively and kicking...

slumber je

Cool down...

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matkaya > Nov 14, 2018 05:48 PM | Report Abuse

just like all the garbage that you say herelah...waste of time...try as hard as you want lah you communist chinese, nothing going to change the value of rest of true Malaysian with Malaysian identity.

matkaya > Nov 14, 2018 05:50 PM | Report Abuse

I tell the same to my friends, to ignore any chinese when selling something to you if they don't speak Bahasa.

urhmmm.... truly... i prefer this cabinet at least I see few talents/professionals... there might have few ministers dont perform... but at least those ministers dont perform dont talk cock...

i no comment on nobita... facepalm

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chinaman > Nov 14, 2018 05:34 PM | Report Abuse

Very likely, our nation may have to sell out nation's assets due to distress oil price now. Our nation is heading towards very challenging tsunami next few years. Is PH in the best to withstand all these external challenges? Our strong resilience is in doubt under current poor cabinet line up. wakaka

If I were you I will invest in ranhill, supermx... these stocks show upward trend...

ride with tide/wind/trend...

Posted by celaw0412 > Nov 14, 2018 05:12 PM | Report Abuse

Tomorrow get ready to buy @ 0.20. haha..

btw.. i never hold this stock... i come here to learn the price/pattern but the price/pattern never give me indication to buy...

gdluck

one stone kill two birds... these director got two brushes.... hahahahaha

I think some big sharks got their finger burnt! hahahahahahahahaha

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Posted by celaw0412 > Nov 14, 2018 03:52 PM | Report Abuse

@rajachulan make sense. But why throw the PP shares to the market? Why not just holding on hand, let say through proxy? Throw to market will make the share price down like now, and let "someone" able to buy over with cheaper cost..

I think the director issue more shares to dilute 'someone's holding... how desperate they are to defend their control of the company...

hahahahahahahaha....maybe not... i bodek the winnie the pooh earlier when you said he is bully remember? hahahaha


Posted by Yesmen > Nov 14, 2018 03:29 PM | Report Abuse

You you post this in China, you would be jailed immediately...if you are not communist, then you are enemy of chinese in China...there's 1.4 billion communist against you

I am far from communist... I prefer legalism 法家... and to some extend, maybe more than anyone in the forum...out of so many philosophy...I hates Confucianism the most...

gongjaga jug-eoya naraga sanda-Confucius Must Die For the Nation to Live

Posted by Yesmen > Nov 14, 2018 02:41 PM | Report Abuse

Wakakakaka...Art of War? China was conquered by barbarians from Mongolia...they invaded China without a single fight...your mighty china emperor openned all Great Wall of China doors so mongolians can come in...what Confucianism? You bodoh or what? Confucianism was wipe out during Mao Zedong era...now China ban Confucianism

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are you a chinese? do you know every living moral chinese breath everyday is actually part of Confucianism teaching?

Posted by qqq3 > Nov 14, 2018 02:01 PM | Report Abuse

Jon....u want to know how China has been demonised ?

https://journal-neo.org/2018/06/17/west-is-spreading-sick-racist-anti-...

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by the way, nice article you shared qqq3...

Xi a bully?

have you ever heard/seen he speaks? there are lotsa his video on youtube

if you dont understand Chinese...just look at his emotion, tone and face expression...

this company has gone mad...

where is bursa?

I dont know, but can a company suka suka issue ESOS and PP to manipulate shareholding?

who are they try to kid?

for short term, cut loss at 5%

for long term, cut loss at 10%

more than those %... you wont be willing to take the hit and sell... and so you will be trapped...

we are not buffet... we simply dont hold that much capital to continuing average down and hold for 20yrs...

gdluck

Never average losses

Always trade with a stop loss

you should have a clear target where to sell if the market moves against you

https://www.tradingwithrayner.com/25-powerful-trading-lessons-by-jesse-livermore/

this is just another Gamuda...

so finally announce the party is over with VOLUME! lmfao

Muarmali is right... ride with tide and wave and trend... dont blindly follow analyst, news, tip, forecast, predicts, estimate, outlook...

Fundamentals can go against price (stock go up on bad news)
By the time fundamentals is out, it’s usually too late to enter
It’s difficult to manage your risk based on fundamentals

gdluck

I quite enjoy this topic.. so I will say a little extra...

if you are interested... please do note the China and Germany relationship... .

Germany is the country who has sold the HIGHSPEED TRAIN TECHONOLOGY to China! while others like France especially Japan did not want to share the technology...and now China is helping everyone in middle east esp KSA & Africa building railway under their one way one belt policy

So.. i would say China will only give face to Russia and Germany...

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and Roberto Kuok...

so ask Trump to talk to these 3 parties if he want to close this trade war drama...

lol

if China ever kowtow... then there wont be Tianamen incident 1989... having said that...

may I add to Icon8888 article...

first US done it on Japan.. they succeeded.

second they done it on USSR... they succeeded again.

third they tried it on China 1989... they failed as China ready and willing to pay the price of losing some bright youngsters protesting in Tiananmen... please take note of this China 'culture/characther' which the ruling party/ruler are always ready to 'crash' any protest by force since 3000yrs ago.

fourth they done it on Iraq.. they succeeded again.

then on Libya and succeeded, then on Syria and succeeded.

now they wants to try it on China again.... I really dont know what makes Trump think he can succeed...

let us go back further to 1959 Tibetan uprising... which resulted the 14th Dalailama who still remain exile today...an event supported by Trump predecessor...

I not a fan of PRC... but...farther we look back the history, further we able to foresee the future...

so if PRC didnt step back in 1959 and 1989... why they will step back in 2018?

if Xijingping step back now... how is he going to rule PRC for next 20yrs?

not here.. but somewhere else