its just a game with monopoly money....for heaven's sake.


I didn't join last year because I didn't like the restrictions.

If I will to join this year, I will put all the money in the down beaten stocks of 2016., not a single sen in the winners of 2016.

Eg...OG stocks ...the Hibiscus and Reach and SKPetrol, not the OSVs, and Mudajaya looks best bets, under existing rules.

for me, it is monopoly money because it does not reflect reality.


stockraider > Dec 25, 2016 06:43 PM | Report Abuse

It is not monopoly monies....it is education of investing...it is not child's play loh....!!

too much yang, time for yin to emerge
too much yin, time for yang to emerge

From the ivory towers comes the 20 formulas 20 ratios
But we all know that CFAs have not done better than gifted individuals with their business sense.

FA like rice
You need rice to survive
Too much rice makes one fat and lazy

TA like vitamin
You need vitamin to perform at your best
Too much vitamin is poison in the body

Engineers approach this thing like an engineering problem with his formulas
Accountants approach this thing with his 20 accounting ratios
But this is a behavior problem , a personality problem

So, I approach this thing by looking at the Man and the men making the decisions.


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stockman/111929.jsp

super good re-adaptation and improvements
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/112320.jsp


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/111907.jsp



War is the best educator
Bring on the wars, bless the fallen
War is the best inventor and starts the fastest rate of human progress.

plane, you missed nothing because,

Kyy have the appropriate response.

It is nasty for KC to sell his services by attacking KYY. Nasty, nasty.

The point is....KYY mistakes did not kill him
Makes a killing when KYY is right.


That is whole point of investing , isn't it, ? and the wisdom in my series on Dynamic Investing and what KYY trying to educate the investing public.


Cut loss and pivotal moments are important considerations in any investor's arsenal.

over a one year period, long enough I think, all day traders must die. No exceptions.

if you cannot take risk with monopoly money, how are you going to take risk with real money?

remember...that this is only a game with monopoly money.


with real money, you are not going to let somebody else stop you from trading when you need to trade.

And I have one more prediction.

I predict that OTB 2017 portfolio will be the bottom half in 2017. His FA and TA will throw up the same old stocks and he will be in the bottom half.

icon

if rules do not reflect reality, end results do not reflect reality.

what is there to debate?

I know some of you will continue to choose the best stocks you can find, the stocks with the most margin of safety and put it in the competition.


for me.....I am a firm believer in risk = reward, then no risk = no rewards.

if you select the stocks with the least risks, with the greatest moat / margin of safety, you get zero reward. Great performers for 2016 are highly highly unlikely to be great performers for 2017.....just as great performers in 2015 did not make it in 2016.

as this is playing with monopoly money.....contestants are advised to think outside the box.

if you cannot take risk with monopoly money, how are you going to take risk with real money?

its just a game with monopoly money....for heaven's sake.


I didn't join last year because I didn't like the restrictions.

If I will to join this year, I will put all the money in the down beaten stocks of 2016., not a single sen in the winners of 2016.

Eg...OG stocks and Mudajaya looks best bets, under existing rules.

there is a change in shareholders.

agree
I already in.

trend trading but not day trading is a viable option...

trend trading means digging for a certain trend, group dynamic, theme play and jump in , hopefully early enough and get out early enough.

what is the difference from day trading? I think the difference lies in stock picking . its in the mind. Trading trading pressure is too much, stock selection too focused on max momentum ...and that is what you likely gets. Day traders are likely to get stocks with max momentum and peak prices.

don't


======================
would like to do Day trading full time in KLSE ,

if 83 years old man is not too old to learn, how old is TK?

tk

too old to learn or too full to learn?

Ven and Klee

What do small men know about the soaring eagle?
What does ven and Klee know about what lies above the cloud?

if VS keeps up the momentum ( Oct 2016 q already record revenue), surely full year 2017 profits will be record especially at current exchange rate.

nope, not a single sen.
Just because what I write sticks and got bite does not mean I after money or glory.



Icon8888 > Dec 24, 2016 04:09 PM | Report Abuse

I am beginning to suspect that you are being paid by KYY as his attack dog.... Seriously..

Kyy have the appropriate response.

It is nasty for KC to sell his services by attacking KYY. Nasty, nasty.

The point is....KYY mistakes did not kill him
Makes a killing when KYY is right.


That is whole point of investing , isn't it, ? and the wisdom in my series on Dynamic Investing and what KYY trying to educate the investing public.


Cut loss and pivotal moments are important considerations in any investor's arsenal.

started on Guy Spier

thanks a million

If one is so prevention focused, you may want to consider FDs and unit trusts.
The CFAs, the CPAs and the maintenance Engineers are principally prevention focused

Yet, if one wants the stock market to make a significant difference, then I suggest readers take seriously the wisdom from one of the best in the KLSE, over decades, not months. Make a difference. Approach this thing like an entrepreneur would.

To be a promotion focused investor is what this is all about. To make a difference, a chance to make a difference.

too much yang, time for yin to emerge
too much yin, time for yang to emerge

From the ivory towers comes the 20 formulas 20 ratios
But we all know that CFAs have not done better than gifted individuals with their business sense.

FA like rice
You need rice to survive
Too much rice makes one fat and lazy

TA like vitamin
You need vitamin to perform at your best
Too much vitamin is poison in the body

Engineers approach this thing like an engineering problem with his formulas
Accountants approach this thing with his 20 accounting ratios
But this is a behavior problem , a personality problem

So, I approach this thing by looking at the Man and the men making the decisions.


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stockman/111929.jsp

super good re-adaptation and improvements
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/112320.jsp


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/111907.jsp



War is the best educator
Bring on the wars, bless the fallen
War is the best inventor and starts the fastest rate of human progress.

whatever works would be a better description

But I have followed KYY for some time and I noticed a few things....
- don't recommend any thing to KYY without good fundamentals. KYY only buys the best in its class and category.
- KYY is not interested in rumor driven tin kosongs.
- KYY may play play with certain situations and opportunities but KYY only puts in substantial sums of money into situations that he is comfortable to hold for some time until his idea bears fruit or proven wrong.











RojakInvestor > Dec 24, 2016 12:04 PM | Report Abuse

kyy super speculator...sure richer la. dumb ppl also know ma

fast in fast out

If one is so prevention focused, you may want to consider FDs and unit trusts.
The CFAs, the CPAs and the maintenance Engineers are principally prevention focused

Yet, if one wants the stock market to make a significant difference, then I suggest readers take seriously the wisdom from one of the best in the KLSE, over decades, not months. Make a difference. Approach this thing like an entrepreneur would.

too much yang, time for yin to emerge
too much yin, time for yang to emerge

From the ivory towers comes the 20 formulas 20 ratios
But we all know that CFAs have not done better than gifted individuals with their business sense.

FA like rice
You need rice to survive
Too much rice makes one fat and lazy

TA like vitamin
You need vitamin to perform at your best
Too much vitamin is poison in the body

Engineers approach this thing like an engineering problem with his formulas
Accountants approach this thing with his 20 accounting ratios
But this is a behavior problem , a personality problem

So, I approach this thing by looking at the Man and the men making the decisions.


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/stockman/111929.jsp

super good re-adaptation and improvements
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/112320.jsp


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/koonyewyinblog/111907.jsp



War is the best educator
Bring on the wars, bless the fallen
War is the best inventor and starts the fastest rate of human progress.

insiders buy high sell low.

ipo

2017 I will try some thing new.

I will stay fully invested at all times and sell some thing to buy some thing else....stays pruned at all times.


Its constant pruning.

of course, investment is about opportunity cost because we only have limited capital.

analysts job much easier, they can say buy just because it looks good.

This is a record turnover and more coming.

TP $ 1.70 to $ 2.00 next year is conservative.

why?

why you want PNB to make so much from Special Bumi Issues?

first one two years after graduating may be discouraging but very short only.

think about it.....

children of all well educated families will all do well in coming years.

its simple maths...........so few good workers in Malaysia.

I am thinking of bigger fish

you can buy the Malaysian OG counters................

Malaysia boleh where Korea tak boleh.

please compare spouces

Siti vs Feipoh

M smart
AhJib greedy

embarrassing list

since analysts like cash in bank.....

all listed companies magically has high cash balances at year end by delaying payment to creditors.........................................................................................lol.

ipk

government no hope.
as long as the government lets private schools be set up, people with money will go to private schools.

the country will benefit.

buy and lock up

fitting round hole to round pegs.



tah16600 > Dec 23, 2016 10:15 AM | Report Abuse

Fresh grad.can get job nowday consider very lucky. My friend son with master degree from France getting below 3 k loh!

I just saying the survey is done by employers to put the blame on the young.
My opinion......the young is practical, down to earth and realistic. Graduates from good universities are happy to work for <$3000, and those in accounting firms work 100 hour week.

my opinion of fresh graduates....I think they are very realistic and down to earth.

don't blame the young when the older generation could not produce a better Malaysia.

some that it as an engineering problem with clear cut solutions
some take it as accountant challenge with 20 ratios.

but it is a human and personality challenge., a behaviour problem

people feel naked and inadequate without CFA or without specialised FA and TA training.

KYY and stockmanmy assures them, you don't have to have feel naked or inadequate. He need a changed mind set.

while FA is rice,
needed for survival
too much FA can make you fat and lazy

TA like vitamins
you need some but too much , it becomes poison in your body.

You need talent, gifted, and practise and / a good mentor and practise.

They only ask employers for such surveys.

Malaysia is not in Trump radar.

when CAGR is in double digits, PE is in single digits, this is what value investors look for
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smart people are accumulating.