Posted by vinext > 2015-06-08 08:17 | Report Abuse

FA alone works well, when u 1) think of urself as a partial biz owner 2)the mkt is close for X yrs, eg: 5-10yrs, ie u forget abt short-term swing 3)has a long term horizon. This is evidenced by the returns of TSH, Kulim, ijmplant, mah sing, i hold for very very long time though the person who bought for me, entered at a level much higher than i wanted. The return is in high teen excluding dividends for a period of more than 10years.
I didnt follow i3 so tightly, not even OTB/ KCC writing. I dont know what is OTB's ROI pa for 10yrs but in the whole world, for the period >15yrs, not more than 5 ppl have achieve > 35% without leverage or derivatives.
Even with leverage & der
ivatives, only <15 have done that

Posted by Kevin Wong > 2015-06-08 09:59 | Report Abuse

Happy and prosperous buying and selling shares everybody!

Posted by traderman > 2015-06-08 15:51 | Report Abuse

fundamental investing ? look at owg ... from 60 cent to 2.9 within 6 months ... where got fundamental ... that is forecast

Posted by gungho92 > 2015-06-08 18:26 | Report Abuse

funny... why waste so much time debating which method is good... the idea is the market is eventually flawed. Even fools can be lucky and rich sometimes, and not all that spend hours and days studying and analyzing companies will eventually succeed. if it was so darn easy, everyone would be rich.

Posted by kcchongnz > 2015-06-08 19:11 | Report Abuse

Posted by gungho92 > Jun 8, 2015 06:26 PM | Report Abuse
funny... why waste so much time debating which method is good... the idea is the market is eventually flawed. Even fools can be lucky and rich sometimes, and not all that spend hours and days studying and analyzing companies will eventually succeed. if it was so darn easy, everyone would be rich.

What is the percentage of those "fools who were lucky and rich sometimes?" Is it one out of a hundred, or 60 out of 100?

You are right. To make money in the stock market is not easy, especially if you are trading. Trading is a zero sum game, what one wins is the others losses. Imagine if you are trading against the syndicates, insiders, investment bankers. What is the chance you will win?

It is a win-lose situation.

Investing is not a zero sum game. You invest in a good company at good price. The company's business generally grow and earn more money. If you sell, you make your money from buying good company at low price.

The buyer from you will also make money next year, 5 years later, or ten years later as the company's business and earnings will grow.

It is a win-win situation.

Please go to the link here and read why value investing works and see if it makes sense to you. If it does, think about it, it can help you to build long-term wealth.If it doesn't, no need to follow. And you have nothing to lose. so you

Heads you will, tails you don't lose. that is the essence of Fundamental value investing.

http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kcchongnz/50988.jsp

Posted by JeevS > 2015-06-09 00:40 | Report Abuse

"Investing is an art". It is difficult to compare Picasso and Leonardo Da Vinci. Both are masters of their own style of paintings.

Posted by Chan KS > 2015-06-09 14:49 | Report Abuse

want to compare then compare with WB or cold eye, else just do what we liked, TA or FA, who cares which is better? really...

Posted by kcock > 2015-06-09 14:50 | Report Abuse

KCChongnz gave positive analysis to Talkcock portfolio, what happen? FA fail is it?
Posted by kcchongnz > Feb 6, 2015 10:46 PM | Report Abuse

While I will not buy many of the stocks in talkcock's portfolio, and it has not been performing well since posting, I would like to give my opinions here:

1) I respect talkcock's picks and I believe he has his good reasons for doing so. Time will tell. But whether they will perform well is actually immaterial to me. It is just some sharing.

2)It is laugable one should judge the return on investment of someone's stock pick in a three week investment period, as investment is a long term endeavour, not a three week punting experience.

3) The prices of the stocks were based on the day the portfolio was put up in i3investor, ie on 17th January 2015, the day when the small and mid cap stocks in Bursa was at his recent high, unfortunately. At least this person is honorable and not trying to fudge his entry prices to look good and then boast around. Many people can see it.

4) Even that his portfolio with a loss of just 0.3%, is not too bad.

5) His pseudo name may be talkcock, but in actual fact, he talks sense, at least that is what I feel.

6) Please you can criticize the stocks he picks with your reasons, and hopefully you are able to, and not engaging in personal attack.
http://klse.i3investor.com/servlets/forum/1100043171.jsp

Posted by tjhldg > 2015-06-09 15:39 | Report Abuse

what is u wannna say kcock ? what analysis that kc give in talkcxxk portfolio ? or your inkeris much much poorer than me so dont understand what kc say ?

i both hands and leg angkat up up to the sky agree to what kc say in this case after i go through the conversation between u and few there and in talkcxxk pass comment in other forum .

and you may try to say i m him also , cause from the way he talk .. i feel i wanna be fren with him also .

kikikiiiiiiiiiii ... hati mau baik .. buat barang mau cantik ...

Posted by kcock > 2015-06-09 15:43 | Report Abuse

What nonsense are you talking about tjhldg?

Posted by tjhldg > 2015-06-09 15:55 | Report Abuse

as nonsense as your last posting here ,.. gham gham passby happen to see and chiat pa bo su cho go read read talkcxxk pass comment in other forum and feel somthing then talk talk lo ..

Posted by kcock > 2015-06-09 15:56 | Report Abuse

what are you mumbling about?

Posted by tjhldg > 2015-06-09 15:57 | Report Abuse

paiseh no time liao ...bz liao .. gtg ..esok see me ada mood not .. ada then may comtinue with u aeh ..
kikikiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

Posted by kcock > 2015-06-09 15:58 | Report Abuse

ok... have a good day tjhldg...god bless u

Posted by tjhldg > 2015-06-09 16:01 | Report Abuse

aiya like this ..gua paiseh pula now ... have a nice day kcock .. wish is me miss understanding you la ..
hahahahahaahah ... happy trading :)gtg ... market sian sian ...rambut panjang waiting ,,, byeee