Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 13:07 | Report Abuse

Ah, I like this article

Everyday I google "Russia Syria" to read the latest news

I like what the Russians are doing

Americans are hypocrites

They not interested in destroying IS

They are trying to use IS to achieve thie geopolitical goal

They want to topple Assad so that the Mediterranean Sea can be turned into an American lake

Posted by TECHfullyBREWED > 2015-10-11 13:08 | Report Abuse

Chess Grandmasters

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 13:10 | Report Abuse

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3267595/Russian-jet-shot-Turkish-forces-flew-country-s-airspace.html

Escalation

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 13:11 | Report Abuse

This kind of things will push up oil price

No wonder the Russians love it

Posted by TECHfullyBREWED > 2015-10-11 13:13 | Report Abuse

may soon progress to 'full blown'

Posted by TECHfullyBREWED > 2015-10-11 13:14 | Report Abuse

Trump's views are interesting as well

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 13:43 | Report Abuse

The Americans claimed they were bombing IS. In actual fact, they were air dropping foods and weapons to IS

Posted by JN88 > 2015-10-11 13:47 | Report Abuse

Russia weapon...China economic...bravo Asia....now USA taiko behsong....TTTTTPA...haha

Posted by popcorn > 2015-10-11 13:51 | Report Abuse

The Americans claimed they were bombing IS. In actual fact, they were air dropping foods and weapons to IS?

where you get this info?

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 14:11 | Report Abuse

http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20151010/1028322416/us-isis-baiji-iraq-footage.html

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 14:17 | Report Abuse

The Americans has the most powerful military in the world. They have been bombing IS for more than a year. By right they would have already obliterated all IS military facilities, right ?

But the fact is that in past few weeks, the Russians are the one that destroyed IS command HQ, weapon cache, suicide bomb making facilities, etc

Do you think the Americans are so incompetent that they were not able to detect those IS assets ? LOL

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 14:37 | Report Abuse

This must one of the most brilliant threads to hv come out of I3 in recent times. It's profoundly cool for a commander. Especially a Commander of Dreams.

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 14:41 | Report Abuse

To be honest, I had my own inspired speculations about Russia's real long term goals in it's latest West Asian adventure. But, I hv to be honest also, I wasn't genius enough to spot oil price as a primary objective.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 14:54 | Report Abuse

I bought popcorn already. The show will be interesting

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 14:55 | Report Abuse

Posted by Icon8888 > Oct 11, 2015 01:07 PM | Report Abuse

They want to topple Assad so that the Mediterranean Sea can be turned into an American lake
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Well, one can always rely on Russia to call the bluff on some pretend, fake-phoney, disguised-as-something-else US strategy. They did it brilliantly with that proposed anti-missile missile sytem to be sited in Poland-Ukraine.

The Americans claimed that it was intended to defend Western Europe against Iranian missiles. But it was just in the wrong location. Besides, what Iranian missile could reach Western Europe at the time. The Russians knew that it was meant to set Russia up for easy destruction by a US nuclear first strike.

The base would hv been designed to mop up any weak Russian counter-strike remaining available, after it had been overwhelmingly crushed by a massive American nuke first strike.

But the Russians knew better. And they just told the US, Jungle George, small-dikked Cheney & all, to simply forget the idea.

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 15:13 | Report Abuse

This is what I am seeing. In taking in Poland into NATO, US-NATO is clearly encroaching into Russia's western flank. And US-NATO is now obviously thinking seriously of going even further, into Ukraine. But that is definitely NOT going to happen now, given Russia's current degree of combativeness.

So, in response to the Poland movement, Russia is going to take in, first Syria, next Iran, in a Russian-led West Asian coalition, to put Russian power right next to Turkey on NATO's southern flank. It's serving notice to Israel too, to quit entertaining any overly grandiose dreams of a greater Judea-Samaria. Checkmate. On 2 fronts simultaneously.

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 15:17 | Report Abuse

And when it crushes IS, Russia is going to get substantial goodwill from practically the whole world, Europe included. Looks like, it's going to be any which way but lose, for Russia.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:29 | Report Abuse

It serves multiple objective, if necessary, can let the war spill over to neighboring countries to make oil sexy a bit

Not my recommendation, I am just suggesting what they might have in mind

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:31 | Report Abuse

They are already planning to take their war against IS to Iraq

That would be a totally new world with interesting dynamics

Posted by Jal 贾彬得 > 2015-10-11 15:41 | Report Abuse

wonder if this will create ww3 ..... fascinating to see how this progress.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:45 | Report Abuse

No ww3

US does not dare to fight Russia

To understand why, spread out a map and look at Russia

US only fights when it can win

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 15:48 | Report Abuse

Must be retarded journo, LOL

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:51 | Report Abuse

Russia invaded Eastern Ukraine, US didn't even dare to send arms to support Ukraine

Because if US does that, Russia will escalate

When it evolves into a war, the U.S. will ultimately win, but it will incur huge economic losses as well (hundreds of billions). The Americans don't want that

To understand the dynamics between US and Russia, just imagine US is a billionaire, Russia is a construction worker

The billionaire will ultimately defeat the construction worker, but he will loss an eye and a leg. Billionaire doesn't like that, he wants to enjoy life

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 15:51 | Report Abuse

Well, any fight aginst IS must mean going into Iraq, ultimately. Becos Iraq is their real wellspring, so to speak. And I'm just thiking, if IS gets cornered until their back is against the wall, they might just go berserk and start disturbing or even outright attacking Saudi Arabia.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:53 | Report Abuse

Russia's Syria move is brilliant. But they need to be careful not to overplay their hand. Be smart and remain vigilant. Keep their eyes on the prize. Don't get drag into a quagmire

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 15:54 | Report Abuse

If they move into Saudi, all hell will break lose

Oil go back 100

Bursa goes 2,000

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 15:57 | Report Abuse

Posted by Icon8888 > Oct 11, 2015 03:51 PM | Report Abuse

When it evolves into a war, the U.S. will ultimately win, but it will incur huge economic losses as well (hundreds of billions). The Americans don't want that

To understand the dynamics between US and Russia, just imagine US is a billionaire, Russia is a construction worker

The billionaire will ultimately defeat the construction worker, but he will loss an eye and a leg. Billionaire doesn't like that, he wants to enjoy life
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No, I don't believe one can distil it down to something that simplistic. Just look back to WWII. Nobody gave the Russians much of a chance of beating Germany. Not even the US, who SLYLY stood back on the OUTSIDE, until Germany was hopelessly worn down by Russia.

And who says a billionaire always beats a construction worker. When it comes down to a fight, it's the one with the bigger, tougher heart, not the one with the most money, who eventually prevails.

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 16:02 | Report Abuse

Come to think of it, Russia does not need to do that much to cause a spike in oil price. Just push back IS into Iraq, right up to the Saudi borders, then lob some cruise missiles over, onto some Saudi refineries and/or seaborne oil tankers, then say it was an accident, that they were actually intended to hit IS targets.

Then ... pronto ... KABOOM! Oil gets back up to 100+ per barrel.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 16:12 | Report Abuse

Ha ha true true true

There is nowhere US can beat Russia (just look at the map of Russia)

I should rephrase it to "even if the billionaire beats the construction worker, he himself will suffer a black eye"

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 16:14 | Report Abuse

I am sure some Russian Generals joked about this when they started planning their Syria strategy recently

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Posted by DreamCommander > Oct 11, 2015 04:02 PM | Report Abuse

Come to think of it, Russia does not need to do that much to cause a spike in oil price. Just push back IS into Iraq, right up to the Saudi borders, then lob some cruise missiles over, onto some Saudi refineries and/or seaborne oil tankers, then say it was an accident, that they were actually intended to hit IS targets.

Then ... pronto ... KABOOM! Oil gets back up to 100+ per barrel.

Posted by JN88 > 2015-10-11 16:25 | Report Abuse

100+ only????? I hope one day can reach 150+ pb ...kakakakaka

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 16:28 | Report Abuse

Only it might not hv been a joke at all. The Russians are renown masters of the art of realpolitik. I mean, if were the chief commander of the Russian military, or if I were Prez VP himself, it would hv been something I would consider. And consider very, very seriously indeed.

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 16:42 | Report Abuse

Well, in that kind of Wild West scenario, or should one say Wild West Asia scenario, then 100+ would be a conservative estimate. A very conservative one.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 16:46 | Report Abuse

As we discuss further, it is becoming increasingly clear to me that what Russia is doing now in Syria is to a large extent related to popping up oil

As the largest oil producer in the world, the Russians probably felt that the Midfle East is "too peaceful" to their liking

The Syria operation is probably to put in place certain level of tension to stinulate oil price

On top of that, it will create multiple other geopolitical benefits (as discussed above)

Wow I have to agree the Russians are brilliant in realpolitik

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 16:54 | Report Abuse

I would not say that Russia is that bad, for them to make oil price as a primary objective. Anyway, they hv more oil & gas reserves in total than SA now, so they can live with cheap oil, maybe even better than SA.

But then since someone has to do the dirty job of destroying IS, and US seems to hv been pussyfooting around so far, with no clear direction or focus about anything, then Russia might as well take the job, and at the same time create other kinds of value-added stuff beneficial to Russia at the same time.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 17:04 | Report Abuse

Nice to have this conversation with you

I like the part where the Russians pushes IS to Saudi border and then lob a few missiles over LOL

Now I have a better feel of possible oil price direction

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 17:08 | Report Abuse

Dude, I'm a novelist wannabe ... If you would like to check out my draft ancient-warrior action adventure novel, well, I would not mind givin ya the ... ohhh ... umm ... err ... the link ... LOL

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 17:12 | Report Abuse

Ha ha ok ok, maybe next time...

I have limited energy. I spent most of my time reading about stocks (make money mah)

But you seemed very familiar with geopolitics. Is that related to your profession ?

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 17:33 | Report Abuse

It's just something fun for me, Icon, and also relevant for keeping up with the latest developments ... Plus it's also good material for some casual conversation ... Especially with like minded ones ...

As for reading about stocks, there is such a thing called information overload ... I would not want to be a sufferer of that sickness, LOL ...

Seriously, though, I prefer to keep maximum free space in my head ... To maximise the gigabytes available for the most important things in life ... And making maximum profit does not mean expending maximum time or maximum effort ... Rather, the key words would be ... Focus, Clarity, Direction & Concentration ...

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 17:36 | Report Abuse

In that regard, Icon, I would like to recommend this book for you:

'Do Less, Achieve More' by Ms Chin-Ning Chu. Grab it, and gobble it.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 17:48 | Report Abuse

Thanks, will seek out the book

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 18:10 | Report Abuse

But then, if you do ever feel like a bit of ancient action & adventure, my draft novel could be better ... Seriously ...

Posted by tc2012 > 2015-10-11 18:10 | Report Abuse

the biggest loser will be the IS .A group of idiots who think that they are almighty will soon realise that they are just a small little powerless pawns........

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 18:53 |

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Posted by Jal 贾彬得 > 2015-10-11 19:02 | Report Abuse

u guys dont have to blame anyone and anything......this is a cycle and its normal....has happened for thousands of years nothing new ....

Posted by DreamCommander > 2015-10-11 19:23 | Report Abuse

Who is blaming anything or any one. Read again.

Posted by Jal 贾彬得 > 2015-10-11 19:52 | Report Abuse

u are blaming their actions thay may end **** up the globe...!!!

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-11 20:12 | Report Abuse

Who is blaming ?

Posted by Jal 贾彬得 > 2015-10-11 20:24 | Report Abuse

guess i wrote my statement wrongly @@...forgive me ....was just trying to imply that everything is part of the natural order aka cycle ....life cycle , war cycle , politic cycle , economic cycle , buisness cycle, and many other cycles and they are a norm. TQ.

Posted by Icon8888 > 2015-10-12 05:12 | Report Abuse

This article look at the same issue but arrive at a totally different conclusion. Instead of causing oil price to spike, it MOSTLY argues that the conflict makes it difficult for Russia and Saudi to coordinate on potential production cut

http://www.businessinsider.my/what-russian-intervention-in-syria-means-for-oil-2015-10/#v4EdoPAsXg0ZwwGj.97