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KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 15:17 | Report Abuse

FRONTKEN - Target Price 55 cents, 100% upside

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:12 | Report Abuse

Market cap = 300mil
Cash in hand = 103.6mil
Borrowings = 28.7mil

Apollo Ang

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Posted by Apollo Ang > 2017-05-19 17:15 | Report Abuse

already up almost 100% since oct,maybe still can up but no more another 100%, maybe 10% can lah,be more relistic

Posted by Skipz Yang > 2017-05-19 17:15 | Report Abuse

where were you guys when it was at 15 sen?

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:25 | Report Abuse

It does not matter where were I, it does matter if I make money or not

Apollo Ang already up almost 100% since oct,maybe still can up but no more another 100%, maybe 10% can lah,be more relistic
19/05/2017 17:15

Skipz Yang where were you guys when it was at 15 sen?
19/05/2017 17:15

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:26 | Report Abuse

If you are not happy with your profit, that's your problem, who cares how much you made? I care only if I make money or not

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:31 | Report Abuse

One thing also very funny, what the heck on earth if I buy now? Anything wrong?

Oh, forget to tell, I was busy holding Ekovest warrant when the Frontken was 15 cents, now you know why I wasn't in Frontken.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:36 | Report Abuse

If Penta can go up from 75 cents to RM3.50 in one year time, why not for Frontken?

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 17:38 | Report Abuse

Provided Frontken can deliver better results in coming quarters

Op3rs

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Posted by Op3rs > 2017-05-19 17:42 | Report Abuse

so what is wrong by buying now?

who say up 100% dy cannot up another 100%?

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-19 19:34 | Report Abuse

The profits of this company is improving QoQ, that's why just up 100% ma... What is the logic cannot buy after up 100% .. As compare with others penny stock, Frontken have better fundamental​ and the price was not goreng-ed too much

Apollo Ang

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Posted by Apollo Ang > 2017-05-19 22:26 | Report Abuse

fronken not penta, if every counter can be like penta whole msia nobody working,cannot compare like that.mark my words in 2 years fronken also will not be double from now.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 22:51 | Report Abuse

Mark down your words first, it's no harm done to me anyway, because it won't go up or down because of you.

Apollo Ang fronken not penta, if every counter can be like penta whole msia nobody working,cannot compare like that.mark my words in 2 years fronken also will not be double from now.
19/05/2017 22:26

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-19 23:25 | Report Abuse

Wow, I see my name in your post.. Hahaha

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 23:28 | Report Abuse

Your comment sum it up, nicky11, I love it.

The major contributions will be from Taiwan & Singapore while Malaysia is to be stable.

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-19 23:49 | Report Abuse

From the annual report, Taiwan segment contributed ~48% of Frontken total revenue. Malaysia & Spore just 27% & 15%. One thing very interesting is Taiwan New Dollar(TWD) is very strong recently. That is a big forex gain!

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-19 23:58 | Report Abuse

Nicky11, I have made up the last 4Q segmental analysis:
http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/blog/img/bl2569_frontken_segment.jpg

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-20 00:09 | Report Abuse

You are definitely right, nicky11, Taiwan New Dollar(TWD) has been very strong against RM during the period 1 Jan to 31 Mar.

http://klse.i3investor.com/files/my/blog/img/bl2569_twd_vs_rm.jpg

http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=TWD&to=MYR&view=1Y

Posted by cutemother > 2017-05-20 00:21 | Report Abuse

Too bad I think it's a little too late to buy in

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-20 00:23 | Report Abuse

Hi KLCI King, you are hardworking in compiling the data. Haha,I directly refer from Frontken annual report-year 2016 , pages 12 for revenue distribution. Sorry, I dunno how to upload photo.

REVENUE(customer location) 2016:RM’000 ; weighting (%)
Taiwan: 125,893 ; 48%
Singapore: 38,408 ; 15%
Malaysia: 71,166 ; 27%
Philippines: 18,061 ; 7%
Others: 8,316 ;3%
Total: 261,844 ; 100%

Posted by Sunflower29 > 2017-05-20 00:24 | Report Abuse

Why

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-20 00:26 | Report Abuse

Thank you for your sharing & great to talk to you, nicky11, got to sleep, cannot tahan anymore, good night.

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-20 00:27 | Report Abuse

Haha, good night. Thanks for your great sharing.

ilovehits

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Posted by ilovehits > 2017-05-20 12:06 | Report Abuse

KIMHIN if annualised 9c, based on 12 PE ratio, TP 4.32. Potential upside 101%.

http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=5371

ilovehits

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Posted by ilovehits > 2017-05-20 12:09 | Report Abuse

No kidding. KIMHIN is a hidden GEM.

(4.32 - 2.15) / 2.15 x 100% = 101%

Posted by WealthWizard > 2017-05-20 14:09 | Report Abuse

Good timing of releasing this article, the company looks promising

Asia88

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Posted by Asia88 > 2017-05-20 16:35 | Report Abuse

Do you even know what the company is doing? How many percentage of sales come from semi-conductor segment? How many percent come from oil and gas industry? Which area of oil and gas they are in? Write an article to push the price? Haha

nicky11

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Posted by nicky11 > 2017-05-20 16:58 | Report Abuse

Below is Year 2016 SEGMENTAL REVENUE – BY INDUSTRY (RM’000)
Oil & Gas : 50,374
Power Generation: 3,182
Semiconductor: 185,162
General* : 23,126
TOTAL: : 261,844

From that statistic, semiconductor and Oil & Gas contributed ~71% and ~19% from Frontken total revenue.

Their service includes:
1. Mechanical Restoration & Overhaul,
2. Coating, Hardfacing & Plating,
3. Precision Manufacturing
4. Plant Engineering & Construction
5. Machining & Grinding
6. Precision Cleaning

For further detials, you may refer from annual report year 2016 Pages 5 & 6:
https://cdn1.i3investor.com/my/files/dfgs88n/2017/04/25/1505928037--1091517766.pdf

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-20 17:07 | Report Abuse

Kakashit has written great article about Frontken & its businesses, I won't waste time to repeat writing it. Pls refer below:

http://klse.i3investor.com/m/blog/kakashit/113559.jsp

Ezra

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Posted by Ezra > 2017-05-22 15:55 | Report Abuse

This is a constructive opinion and criticism. Feel free to ignore if disagree.

From a neutral standpoint, simply slapping a industry PE 15 to any technology stock is extremely dangerous. If such method is applied, then all technology stocks in Bursa would have been highly valued at PE 15 for a long time. The fact that it doesn't clearly shows you something.

First we must ask ourselves, on what basis should Frontken command a PE of 15?
Is the business lucrative? Is it a market leader? Does it have moats or other competitive advantage that others doesn't?

Second, what is the return of investment or equity? In layman words, if I invested Rm 1 in this company, how much do I expected to earn back on my RM 1?

Remember, high valuation equals to high expected future returns. If the expected future returns cannot deliver, then it does not deserve a high valuation.

By asking ourselves the right question, only can we get the right answer.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-22 22:07 | Report Abuse

Let's market decide, what I think or what you think is not important. I can simply shout at target price of RM1, it does not matter.

If one never read reports & do his analysis before buying, all advices are useless.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-22 22:12 | Report Abuse

One more thing to share, no one will look at the counter even price traded at PE 6 times during BEAR market & everyone will chase the same counter even price traded above 15 times PE during BULL market.

I refer to Penta. The key is to deliver results.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-22 22:13 | Report Abuse

All in all, it is subjective & very easy, if you think it is high, don't buy. If you think it will go up further, why not?

Ezra

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Posted by Ezra > 2017-05-23 00:50 | Report Abuse

1. "Let's market decide, what I think or what you think is not important. I can simply shout at target price of RM1, it does not matter.
If one never read reports & do his analysis before buying, all advices are useless."

Ans: "In the short run, the market is a voting machine but in the long run, it is a weighing machine." - Benjamin Graham

If you have been in the market for a long time, you will know that the market flip flop all the time. From extreme bearish to extreme bullish.

What the market decide in the short term may not be the true reflection of a value. Depending on the judgement of other people in the market (a.k.a market forces) is no different in betting in a horse race - where the payout are dependant on how many people bet on it. It is the worst imaginable way to build your wealth stably and securely.

That is why you must have a thorough analysis of stock, and stick with it till the end, even if the market disagrees with you in the short run.



2. "One more thing to share, no one will look at the counter even price traded at PE 6 times during BEAR market & everyone will chase the same counter even price traded above 15 times PE during BULL market. "

That is why so many people missed the fortune at the bottom of a bear market, and also why so many crashed and burned at the peak of a bull market.

"Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked." - Warren Buffett

Only by asking ourselves the right question, can we have the right answer - the true value of the stock. Like you say "I can simply shout at target price of RM1, it does not matter.", but what is the point if your target price is wrong itself? Food for thought, my friend.

Ezra

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Posted by Ezra > 2017-05-23 00:53 | Report Abuse

Anyway, these are just my advices from years of experience.
Feel free to ignore. I will also stop commenting.
Happy investing :)

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-24 01:15 | Report Abuse

To success in stock investment, one must read books, news, reports & do homework, as well as accumulating buy sell shares experience (practical experience).

But the truth is, no matter new or old birds, not many of them have time/habit to read books/reports/financial statements, they prefer to trust the news that they heard.

I have more than 25 years investing experience & didn't make any killing mistakes in 1998, 2001 & 2008, so I understand your good intention of sharing, but I doubt many will truly understand it. That the reason of 10% & 90% story.

KLCI King

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Posted by KLCI King > 2017-05-24 01:18 | Report Abuse

Sometimes it is not difficult to succeed in stock investment, but the attitude make the difference.

Hitman

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Posted by Hitman > 2017-05-24 11:59 | Report Abuse

hold tight2..55sen TP..lol..hahaha

moolala

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Posted by moolala > 2018-12-29 21:09 | Report Abuse

Apollo Ang - fronken not penta, if every counter can be like penta whole msia nobody working,cannot compare like that.mark my words in 2 years fronken also will not be double from now.
19/05/2017 22:26


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